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    Post  higurashihougi Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:04 pm

    https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/2023/07/20/national/socialAffairs/Korea-teacher-death/20230720181217154.html

    Suicide spotlights abuse of teachers by students and parents

    The Seoul Metropolitan Office of Education confirmed Wednesday evening that a 23-year-old teacher who taught first graders was found dead at the elementary school in Seoul Seo 2 Elementary School on Tuesday morning.  

    Police said they believe she took her own life but are investigating further details.  

    However, her apparent suicide immediately drew suspicions that the teacher may have been harassed by the parents of a school bully in her charge.  

    The Seoul Teachers' Union said in a statement Thursday that fellow teachers had reported that an incident of violence occurred between students in the class the deceased teacher was in charge of last week.  

    The union said that one student scratched another student's forehead with a pencil. The parents of the student, who was harmed, reportedly came to the principal's office and strongly protested the incident, saying that the deceased teacher "didn't have the qualifications to teach."

    Education authorities and the school however warned against any premature speculations on the cause of the teacher's death.  

    While students have gained more rights and protection through the banning of corporal punishment in schools in 2010, teachers on the other hand face difficulties in disciplining students and also managing complaints from parents.  

    Another elementary school teacher was recently assaulted by a student in her sixth-grade class, beaten by him in front of other students dozens of times.




    While teachers are already saddled with pressure from low salaries and excessive administrative work, weakened teacher authority in the classroom, especially due to fear of backlash from parents, and the lack of support from the school when parents file complaints, have done little to help teachers' morale.  

    The KCTU found in a survey of 6,700 teachers conducted in May, ahead of Teachers' Day, that only 23.6 percent of respondents were satisfied with the teaching profession, the lowest ever reported in the annual poll. Just 20 percent said they would choose the teaching profession even if they were born again, also a new low.  

    Referring to recent cases where teachers' rights were infringed upon, he said, "There is a rapid increase in malicious complaints and complaints that paralyze teachers' abilities to provide guidance for students."

    He continued, "We take very seriously the reality that teachers' legitimate educational activities are not protected."

    Cho said that "special measures must be urgently prepared" and that efforts will be made to amend the Act on Special Cases Concerning the Punishment, etc. of Child Abuse Crimes to enable teachers' better protection in the classroom.

    Education Minister Lee Ju-ho said that there is "speculation that a teacher's death may have been caused by a serious infringement of teachers' rights," which if true "poses a significant challenge to our educational system," in a meeting with regional educational chiefs.

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    Post  Sprut-B Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:37 pm

    To me, South Korea is a dystopian hellhole. A 100% materialistic society with no spirituality, extreme beauty standards where everyone is trying to look like a doll, and an absurd amount of xinophobia in the age of the internet.

    They're overworked, hierarchical, racist, and judgmental; it's almost like South Korea is the worst culture on earth to be born into.

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    Post  Sprut-B Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:50 pm

    Their entire education system is designed as such to create mindless drones to work as wage slaves for the big companies that actually own and run the country.



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    Post  higurashihougi Thu Jul 27, 2023 8:55 pm

    angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry

    https://southfront.org/legalized-sale-of-children-for-spare-parts-and-ukrainian-justice-why-did-court-release-transcarpathian-child-trafficker/?fbclid=IwAR06Dmf_Gcq5bpAAqQPeQZCd_Kyt4dKjIjHJJAdJ0nai2gAz4N548NCrlTU

    LEGALIZED SALE OF CHILDREN FOR “SPARE PARTS” AND UKRAINIAN JUSTICE: WHY DID COURT RELEASE TRANSCARPATHIAN CHILD TRAFFICKER?

    One recent and sobering item of news was the detention of a Ukrainian man at the border of Ukraine and Slovakia. He was caught red-handed trying to take an 11-month-old child abroad, in order to sell the organs.

    The identity of the malefactor was quickly established – 43-year-old Denis Varodi, a resident of the city of Uzhgorod, in the Transcarpathian region of Western Ukraine.

    Varodi had worked as a teacher in an orphanage, and even headed the Uzhgorod gymnasium No. 13 as an employee of the Uzhgorod city council. He is presently the head of the “Heart With Love” charitable foundation, as well as the founder of the Transcarpathian regional youth society of orphans, “Share”.

    According to Ukrainian law enforcement officers, the man paid an advance payment of $1,000 to the boy’s mother, who lives in Zhytomyr. He convinced her that the boy would be safer living far away from the war, and that he himself would ensure the adoption of her child by good people within the EU. The total “cost” of the child, agreed with the mother, was supposed to be $5,000.

    Ukrainian law enforcement officers, however, received intelligence that the man had brazenly deceived the child’s mother, as no such adoption was planned. His intention was always to sell the baby to “black transplantologists” for the sum of $25,000.

    The man was detained on the border of Ukraine and Slovakia, as he was about to cross it with the child. He was accompanied by his wife, who was his full accomplice.



    Meanwhile, it has become known that this particular seller of children “for their organs” has been released on a bail of UAH 1 million. According to the court, Varodi is just an exotic smuggler who does not trade in cigarettes or alcohol, but in children. Everyone has their own “business”!

    This decision was made by the judge of the Uzhgorod interdistrict court Natalya Shumilo, despite the fact that the court could easily have taken Varodi into custody without the right to post bail. The judge even reduced the amount of the pledge from UAH 3 to UAH 1 million.

    Moreover, a million hryvnias at the current exchange rate of this currency is a mere trifle – approximately $27,000. Given the $25,000 price tag for each child, it turns out that the cost of a bail is about one child taken abroad. This is one destroyed life of an innocent baby!

    The offender has already paid the bail of UAH 1 million, received from the sale of children’s organs, and is now being released.

    Summing up the above, it is impossible not to conclude that everything has its price – even the life of a child.

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    Post  GarryB Fri Jul 28, 2023 4:07 am

    You will never see that story in western media...

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    Post  nomadski Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:57 am

    Higura wrote " ...Summing up the above, it is impossible not to conclude that everything has its price – even the life of a child. " They say NATO should not exist . Well it does exist . This means it has boundaries , and occupies time and space . Necessary to it's contraction , is it's expansion . They say they want a just world . This assumes that they know what justice is . Nothing we do is unjust . Whatever happens is predetermined . We observe , and we may not like it . And plane crash survivors turn to cannibalism , as did our ancestors and remote tribal communities now . If you have any complaints , take it up with God . The punishment for burning the Qur'an or for insulting the prophet , should be in line with civil and criminal law . Compensation for the cost of replacing  the book and a caution by police , for using bad language .
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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Sat Jul 29, 2023 9:42 am

    Werewolf wrote:Western countries are the dumbest nations world wide with the US leading.

    We are a god damn mammal species with sexual dimorphism coded into our genome, that can only have a successful reproduction with the offspring from male with female genetic material.

    The very fact that adults of western countries trying to challenge this fact disqualifies the entire western world from an educated and civilized world. I understand that it is a mechanism for population control by globalists, but what I do not understand how such a species like ours can build such sophisticated technology but at the same time has over 60-70 percent of the population to stupid to exist on their own.

    Take away all the comfortable technologies and through the masses of adults into the wilderness and they would die.

    This is a perverted and dangerous politics they are engaging in and it will end as the globalists plan. At some point the masses will walk on the streets and burn everything that supports or abuses power to touch our children. Then they will get what they want a mob on emotions that can be offered a solution to the problem the globalists have created by a pseudo alternative site/political party.

    I see this trend in Germany with the Green and AfD party.

    You Germans missed a historic opportunity with National Socialism. The only mistake of the Nazis was Russophobia, encouraged by communism. The Nazis warned of all this Western decadence and the Judeo-American colonization of Europe and then the world. In cultural terms, Germany in the 1930s and Putin's Russia agree on the diagnosis of the state of destruction of the West. Basically, protect your blood and traditional culture, marry a good girl and live a peaceful and prosperous life. It is not that difficult, but the plan of globalism is to end that way of life.

    The plan of globalism is to create a society of atomized, mestizo (woke culture and without race) and castrated (powerless against feminization) men. That will facilitate their domination of the elites. It is clear that it is a plan for the West. Surely then they will try to apply it in China or India. They have already done it in an Asian society like South Korea or Japan. They want to create a culture of massified men, without religion or traditional values. Surely the reproduction will be done in test tubes or artificial insemination as in Sweden. Abortion, hedonism, destruction of romanticism, ugliness. That's the plan for women. Men will be castrated or made brutal and violent. The refined man, with loving codes, will make no sense in that society. It will gradually disappear.

    (I'm talking about the real Nazis, not the stupid Ukrainians that you mix up when you have nothing to do with it)

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    Post  higurashihougi Sun Jul 30, 2023 4:14 pm

    https://www.rt.com/russia/580504-sport-fencing-rules-handshake/

    Fencing federation to change rules after Russian handshake is snubbed – media

    The gesture will be replaced by a ‘distance greeting’ following an incident involving Ukrainian and Russian fencers this week

    The International Fencing Federation (FIE) is to change its traditional rules, which stipulate that handshakes are mandatory following a bout, after Ukraine’s Olga Kharlan refused to extend the courtesy to her Russian counterpart, Anna Smirnova, following a bout in Milan this week, according to Italian newspaper La Repubblica.

    “Thursday’s incident will change the rules of fencing,” La Repubblica reported on Friday, following discussions between FIE and the International Olympic Committee (IOC). “The traditional handshake at the end of the bout will be replaced with immediate effect by a distance greeting, which will allow Ukrainians not to approach the Russians, even if they compete as neutrals,” the report stated.
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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Sun Jul 30, 2023 10:42 pm

    @ ArgentinaGuard

    The Nazi are definitely not an example to be followed.
    Just to be remembered in order not to repeat all of the horrible things that they did.

    The only things that could be learnt from Germany in the 1930s are some of the economic policies from Hjalmar Schacht, all the rest can go down the drain.

    Furthermore they made also a lot of damage for subsequent "decadence", as you call it, since now everyone that wants to go against such decadence is accused of being a Nazi.

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    Post  higurashihougi Mon Jul 31, 2023 4:58 am

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    Post  GarryB Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:15 am


    The gesture will be replaced by a ‘distance greeting’ following an incident involving Ukrainian and Russian fencers this week

    Perhaps Russian athletes should be giving western countries trying to destroy their economy and country a distance greeting of a middle finger salute?

    It is funny that when the rules do not suit western goals and interests they get changed immediately... because the governing bodies are western biased if not western owned.

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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:24 am

    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:@ ArgentinaGuard

    The Nazi are definitely not an example to be followed.
    Just to be remembered in order not to repeat all of the horrible things that they did.

    The only things that could be learnt from Germany in the 1930s are some of the economic policies from Hjalmar Schacht, all the rest can go down the drain.

    Furthermore they made also a lot of damage for subsequent "decadence", as you call it, since now everyone that wants to go against such decadence is accused of being a Nazi.

    I understand that in this forum there is hostility to Nazism. I respect the great Patriotic war and the sacrifice of the Russian people.
    Unfortunately the Jewish communists made a criminal revolution (supported by the German empire in World War 1) and ended the Russian empire (they created the stupidity of "Ukraine" as Putin has recognized) otherwise I am sure that Russia would have been a natural ally of Germany.
    I think the Nazis warned of Western decadence and proposed a war against that future. You can say what you want but the only ones that threatened Anglo-Saxon liberal/Judeo-capitalist rule was Adolf Hitler's Germany. No one else did until today's Russia. The Soviet Union (not Slavic and historical Russia) due to its survival ended up saving the liberal capitalist system. I never threatened him or decided to confront him directly because deep down they are the same. Materialistic and Jewish systems. In fact, the behavior of the "international community" is exactly the same. Isolate and boycott the two countries. Force to war. Encourage and arm enemies (Poland is today's Ukraine)
    Hitler's problem was his Russophobia and not following the Molotov/Ribentrop pact.


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    Post  ALAMO Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:29 am

    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:@ ArgentinaGuard

    The only things that could be learnt from Germany in the 1930s are some of the economic policies from Hjalmar Schacht, all the rest can go down the drain.

    This brilliant policy left Germany totally broke, with hidden MEFO debt of enormous size. As soon as the bond termination date was coming (call me surprised, Fall 1939), the whole system would collapse. Germany was in desperate need of capital inflow, and the war was an answer. They have been ripping golden teeth from the corpses in an organized manner because they had to.

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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:39 am

    ALAMO wrote:
    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:@ ArgentinaGuard

    The only things that could be learnt from Germany in the 1930s are some of the economic policies from Hjalmar Schacht, all the rest can go down the drain.

    This brilliant policy left Germany totally broke, with hidden MEFO debt of enormous size. As soon as the bond termination date was coming (call me surprised, Fall 1939), the whole system would collapse. Germany was in desperate need of capital inflow, and the war was an answer. They have been ripping golden teeth from the corpses in an organized manner because they had to.

    The economic policy of Nazi Germany was brilliant. In 4 years they put the country on its feet. The debt was generated by the Jewish bankers with whom the Weimar Republic (made up of Marxists) got into debt (taking debt from US banks). What the Nazis did was combine the direction of the State with the German capacity and talent for work and industry.
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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:45 am

    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:@ ArgentinaGuard

    The Nazi are definitely not an example to be followed.
    Just to be remembered in order not to repeat all of the horrible things that they did.

    The only things that could be learnt from Germany in the 1930s are some of the economic policies from Hjalmar Schacht, all the rest can go down the drain.

    Furthermore they made also a lot of damage for subsequent "decadence", as you call it, since now everyone that wants to go against such decadence is accused of being a Nazi.

    That is not the fault of the Nazis but of how fearful some are with the Jews who are the ones who put those labels to defame. Rule number 1. If you are going to fight against decadence (whatever ideology you are) you must recognize the Jewish role
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    Post  ALAMO Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:45 am

    But you DO know what MEFO was, do you?
    Whatever ... dunno
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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:56 am

    ALAMO wrote:But you DO know what MEFO was, do you?
    Whatever ... dunno

    And what does one have to do with the other? Do you know the economic situation that Hitler received? A country destroyed and prostituted. Germany was isolated and boycotted by the whole world. Every country generates bonds to finance itself. But the advantage is not needing foreign debt or enslaving the country
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    Post  higurashihougi Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:07 am

    ArgentinaGuard wrote:I understand that in this forum there is hostility to Nazism. I respect the great Patriotic war and the sacrifice of the Russian people.
    Unfortunately the Jewish communists made a criminal revolution (supported by the German empire in World War 1) and ended the Russian empire (they created the stupidity of "Ukraine" as Putin has recognized) otherwise I am sure that Russia would have been a natural ally of Germany.
    I think the Nazis warned of Western decadence and proposed a war against that future. You can say what you want but the only ones that threatened Anglo-Saxon liberal/Judeo-capitalist rule was Adolf Hitler's Germany. No one else did until today's Russia. The Soviet Union (not Slavic and historical Russia) due to its survival ended up saving the liberal capitalist system. I never threatened him or decided to confront him directly because deep down they are the same. Materialistic and Jewish systems. In fact, the behavior of the "international community" is exactly the same. Isolate and boycott the two countries. Force to war. Encourage and arm enemies (Poland is today's Ukraine)
    Hitler's problem was his Russophobia and not following the Molotov/Ribentrop pact.

    1) Russian Revolution was the natural consequence of the disastrous economic and military situation at that time. There was no conspiracy theory here.

    Russian Monarchists claim of "lost victory" is completely bullshit.

    2) The government of Ukraine was recognized by the Russian bourgeioise governmment of 1917, before the Bolshevik-led October revolution. The separatists sentiment in Ukraine and in others such as Kavkaz and Baltic region was strong and there were nothing people could do about it.

    Lenin's solution was the best possile at that time, he recognized Ukraine independence but persuaded the Ukrainian people to join an alliance with Russia to fight against Western aggression, which later evolved into the USSR. The dissolution of USSR later had nothing to do with Lenin, but had everything to do with capitalism.

    3) Nazi is 100% capitalism, it is capitalism protected by a big government with a huge dose of racism, for obvious reasons.

    Honestly speaking I don't think Hitler wanted to treat you as equal as his so-called "Aryan race" and I am afraid you might be a potential victim of Nazi's racist attitude.

    With all respect, I am afraid that your endorsement for Nazi may led to your own undoing.

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    Post  flamming_python Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:26 am

    higurashihougi wrote:2) The government of Ukraine was recognized by the Russian bourgeioise governmment of 1917, before the Bolshevik-led October revolution. The separatists sentiment in Ukraine and in others such as Kavkaz and Baltic region was strong and there were nothing people could do about it.

    Lenin's solution was the best possile at that time, he recognized Ukraine independence but persuaded the Ukrainian people to join an alliance with Russia to fight against Western aggression, which later evolved into the USSR. The dissolution of USSR later had nothing to do with Lenin, but had everything to do with capitalism.

    Slight correction, the temporary government of 1917 recognized the Ukraine as part of the Russian Republic, and the newly-formed Rada in Kiev at the time declared only autonomy, not separation. It wasn't until after the October revolution that the Ukraine broke off and formed the UNR, quickly supported by German troops after having concluded peace with Germany.

    The Bolsheviks had support in the Ukraine, but as in Russia - mainly in the urban centres of industry. But especially in the Russian-populated regions such as the same Kharkov and the Donbass, albeit the later was only claimed as part of the Ukraine back then, not considered as such.

    The Ukraine was the site of fighting between a number of factions throughout 1918-1920 so it's hard to ultimately tell who was supported where. The nationalist government held a lot of territory initially and had some troops, but mostly it was reliant on foreign forces such as the Germans and then the Poles. In southern Ukraine the anarchists were popular - Makhno's forces. Crimea was a Russian-populated region but was held by the White army, although it had nothing to do with the Ukraine back then either. Denikin was operating in some border areas of Russia and the Ukraine. And there were other rival leftist groups such as the Menshiviks and SRs same as in Russia.

    It wasn't until the Bolsheviks had won the war that they managed to secure control over the Ukraine by deferring to Ukrainian communists and conducting territorial negotiations with them and building a state with at least a nominal equality between Russia and the Ukraine. This is what gave the Soviets legitimacy in the Ukraine. It was a similar process in Kazakhstan, where they appeased nationalist sentiment by offering autonomy, and then conducted territorial negotiations to sort out historical issues. The Soviet process of decossackization in northern Kazakhstan which removed those the Kazakhs had the greatest issues with no doubt was of no small assistance to the strengthening of Soviet rule in Kazakhstan either.

    From the Wikipedia article on the Russian Civil war in the Donbass.
    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B6%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B9%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B2_%D0%94%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B1%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B5

    A significant contribution to the development of the idea of administrative separation of the Donetsk coal basin and the Krivoy Rog ore region was made back in the time of the Russian Empire by the Council of the Congress of Miners of the South of Russia (SSGURM), as well as Stepan Banderlog [specify]. The industrialists were not satisfied with the division of the whole Donetsk-Krivoy Rog industrial region into three administrative units - Yekaterinoslav, Kharkov provinces and the Don Army Region. Since the end of the 19th century entrepreneurs began to point to his "economic indivisibility" within Russia[2]. By the February Revolution of 1917, a consensus of economic and political elites had developed in the Donetsk-Krivoy Rog region about the need to unite the coal and metallurgical regions of the region into a single region with the capital in Kharkov or Yekaterinoslav[2]. The implementation of this idea was the creation by the Provisional Government in March 1917 of the Provisional Committee of the Donets Basin to plan and regulate the economic development of Donbass as a single complex. The Provisional Committee was located in Kharkov, which thus began to be perceived as the center of the region.

    In the summer of 1917, when the Ukrainian Central Rada, which proclaimed the national-territorial autonomy of Ukraine within Russia, announced its claims to the territory of nine provinces of the former Russian Empire, including the Donbass, the leadership of the SSGYUR appealed to the Provisional Government with an urgent demand to prevent the transfer of "southern mountainous and mining industry - the basis of the economic development and military power of the state "under the control of" provincial autonomy and maybe even a federation based on a pronounced national feature "[2]. On August 4 (17), the Commission of the Provisional Government sent the General Secretariat (government) of the Central Rada an "Interim Instruction", according to which the competence of the General Secretariat was recognized only for five of the 9 provinces claimed by the Central Rada - Kiev, Volyn, Podolsk, Poltava and Chernihiv [2].

    Donbass after the February Revolution

    On March 3–5 (16–18) throughout Ukraine, the bodies of the Russian imperial administration were liquidated, and executive power was transferred to provincial and district commissars appointed by the Provisional Government[3]. "Civil" and "public" committees were created in county centers. At the same time, Soviets of Workers' Deputies began to be created in cities, towns, and mines as representative bodies of revolutionary democratic forces. Initially, they were dominated by representatives of moderate socialist parties - the Socialist-Revolutionaries and the Mensheviks. Thus, in the Lugansk Soviet, out of 60 deputies, the Bolsheviks made up only a quarter - 15 people [4].

    In March-April, the Soviets were formed in Lisichansk, Kadievka, Sorokino, Bryanka, Krindachevka, Svatov, Yekaterinodon and other settlements. Some of them - the Bryansk, Kadievsky, Rovenkovsky Volost Soviets of Workers' and Peasants' Deputies - were headed by the Bolsheviks; others are Socialist-Revolutionaries and Mensheviks. And if the Bolsheviks sought to turn the Soviets into local authorities, the Mensheviks and Socialist-Revolutionaries through them supported the Provisional Government[5].

    In large industrial centers, the members of the Soviets were predominantly workers, and in Bakhmut, Slavyansk, Lisichansk - artisans, entrepreneurs and intellectuals. In terms of party composition, the Bolsheviks predominated only in the Gorlovsky-Shcherbinovsky district (except for mine No. 1, where the Soviet was Menshevik). The rest of the Soviets were controlled by the Mensheviks and Socialist-Revolutionaries, with the exception of Druzhkovsky and Donsodovsky, who were headed by members of the Constitutional Democratic Party[6].

    During March, factory and mine committees were formed at almost all enterprises, which resolved issues of supplying workers with food, increasing wages, regulating the length of the working day, improving working conditions, and in some cases establishing control over production. Subsequently, district and central councils of factory committees were created[4].

    The February revolution led to the activation of various political parties and organizations, including national ones, on the territory of Donbass. The most numerous Ukrainian political force was the USDRP, which had its own organizations in Enakievo, Gorlovka, Lisichansk, Bakhmut, Mariupol, and Luhansk. In addition to it, the Ukrainian Party of Socialist Revolutionaries, the Ukrainian Party of Socialist Federalists, and Prosvita operated in the region. However, the Ukrainian national forces in the Donbass relied mainly on the rear units of the Ukrainianized military units. In particular, the 25th reserve Bakhmutsky regiment was stationed in Lugansk, whose commander V. Malashko declared himself a Ukrainian Social Revolutionary, a smoked ataman of the local “free Cossacks” and chairman of the “povitov’s council”. This body did not have any real influence and disbanded shortly after the October Revolution. Some support for the "Ukrainian movement" in the Luhansk region was distributed only among railway workers. When a local Ukrainian group appeared at a May Day demonstration in Luhansk with their blue and yellow flag, the workers demanded that it be removed, since “only red banners can fly at a workers’ demonstration”[7]. The working proletariat, concentrated in large urban centers, as well as in the area of ​​mines and mines of the Donets Basin, did not belong to the indigenous population of Little Russia, which determined its hostile attitude towards the independent Ukrainian movement[8].

    higurashihougi wrote:3) Nazi is 100% capitalism, it is capitalism protected by a big government with a huge dose of racism, for obvious reasons.

    Honestly speaking I don't think Hitler wanted to treat you as equal as his so-called "Aryan race" and I am afraid you might be a potential victim of Nazi's racist attitude.

    With all respect, I am afraid that your endorsement for Nazi may led to your own undoing.

    As for Nazism, it's a little more than just capitalism backed by a big state with racism mixed in. That sort of thing existed well before Nazism. Nazism though was deliberately developed as a response to communism.
    It is in all essence an attempt at class unity through an appeal to nationalism and the reaffirmation of nations as opposed to classes as the prime motive force of history by latching onto something concrete, such as bloodline, rather than just national idealism and romanticism as previously.
    And then the society of a Nazi society can profit from a system where all its classes are rewarded, via territory and slave labour, as the exploited first and foremost will be other nations in their entirety.

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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Mon Jul 31, 2023 6:38 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:
    ArgentinaGuard wrote:I understand that in this forum there is hostility to Nazism. I respect the great Patriotic war and the sacrifice of the Russian people.
    Unfortunately the Jewish communists made a criminal revolution (supported by the German empire in World War 1) and ended the Russian empire (they created the stupidity of "Ukraine" as Putin has recognized) otherwise I am sure that Russia would have been a natural ally of Germany.
    I think the Nazis warned of Western decadence and proposed a war against that future. You can say what you want but the only ones that threatened Anglo-Saxon liberal/Judeo-capitalist rule was Adolf Hitler's Germany. No one else did until today's Russia. The Soviet Union (not Slavic and historical Russia) due to its survival ended up saving the liberal capitalist system. I never threatened him or decided to confront him directly because deep down they are the same. Materialistic and Jewish systems. In fact, the behavior of the "international community" is exactly the same. Isolate and boycott the two countries. Force to war. Encourage and arm enemies (Poland is today's Ukraine)
    Hitler's problem was his Russophobia and not following the Molotov/Ribentrop pact.

    1) Russian Revolution was the natural consequence of the disastrous economic and military situation at that time. There was no conspiracy theory here.

    Russian Monarchists claim of "lost victory" is completely bullshit.

    2) The government of Ukraine was recognized by the Russian bourgeioise governmment of 1917, before the Bolshevik-led October revolution. The separatists sentiment in Ukraine and in others such as Kavkaz and Baltic region was strong and there were nothing people could do about it.

    Lenin's solution was the best possile at that time, he recognized Ukraine independence but persuaded the Ukrainian people to join an alliance with Russia to fight against Western aggression, which later evolved into the USSR. The dissolution of USSR later had nothing to do with Lenin, but had everything to do with capitalism.

    3) Nazi is 100% capitalism, it is capitalism protected by a big government with a huge dose of racism, for obvious reasons.

    Honestly speaking I don't think Hitler wanted to treat you as equal as his so-called "Aryan race" and I am afraid you might be a potential victim of Nazi's racist attitude.

    With all respect, I am afraid that your endorsement for Nazi may led to your own undoing.



    Hitler defended the German space but he was not an enemy of the other peoples. Only of Judaism since it is the dissolving factor of history. And regarding Ask the Italians, Spanish, Arabs and Japanese.

    The revolution had the Jews among the main revolutionaries, as well as support from the German and American economic groups. I don't care if it's a conspiracy or not. The Jewish element is obvious.
    And the disastrous situation was the product of the war and the sabotage of the left. In Germany they did the same but instead of a Spartacist government they ended up in the Weimar Republic.
    The Ukraine is the daughter of the 1917 revolution. Anyone knows that.
    Russia should have lied to her nation and empire and would have spared herself massacres, destruction, famine, and the dissolution of her own historical roots.
    Communism is unnatural. The people who defend it seem ignorant and also horrible.

    In his time communism proposed a left-wing globalism. A murderous dictatorship, instead of today's consumerist and hedonistic placebo. But deep down they are the same.
    My problem with today's Ukrainians is not that they are Nazis but that their position is a complete farce. They defend a decadent country and way of life (antagonistic to the original Nazism), in addition to being led by a Jew. Theirs is simple Russophobia, which means self-annihilation since a Ukrainian is racially a Russian. You are killing your blood and opposing Putin that he is a guy who seeks to preserve the white Slavic race and its traditional values.
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    Post  flamming_python Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:28 pm

    There's nothing special about the Jews

    There have been a number of peoples in history who have fulfilled this role of a cosmopolitan, mercantile caste spread out as a diaspora away from their homeland. You can look at the Greeks in the Ottoman Empire or the Armenians in the same Ottoman Empire or today in Russia & America.

    While the intolerance of the Europeans towards the Jews was not something unique either. Right now with such unprecedented levels of Muslim immigration into Europe, the well-evidenced cultural barrier between the incoming culture and the old one leading to the formation of ghettos and communities with a focus on religiosity and conservatism - not wholly unlike how the Jews lived in Europe until the 19-20th centuries - we're starting to see the same steady development of auto-segregation as well as Islamophobia on the part of the indigenous populations, mirroring the once pervasiveness of anti-Semitism in Europe.

    It's ultimately enough to observe that the Jews were not only in the diaspora in Europe/Russia/America. Half the world's Jewish population has for the longest time lived in the Muslim world. The Middle East, North Africa, Uzbekistan and the Caucasus. Where they weren't always out of trouble either but where their traditional values fit in better with the majority populations and where in fact there was no history whatsoever of 'subversion', or decadence or whatever. None whatsoever. The Islamic world had no room for such processes and Jews living there were not drawn to them either. They remained as rooted in their religion and cultural codes as their Muslim neighbors were.
    This phenomenon was specific to Europe and America. These philosophies and movements of relativism, secularism, materialism and so on were contributed to by a large number of assimilated and secular Jews but these same things were in the first place developments of European civilization, and were evolutions on the earlier rationalism and renaissance movements in which an absolute minimum of Jews ever took part.
    Thus Jews can be observed to be no more a subject of historical processes than any other people were. They did as others.
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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:13 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:https://www.rt.com/russia/580504-sport-fencing-rules-handshake/

    Fencing federation to change rules after Russian handshake is snubbed – media

    The gesture will be replaced by a ‘distance greeting’ following an incident involving Ukrainian and Russian fencers this week

    The International Fencing Federation (FIE) is to change its traditional rules, which stipulate that handshakes are mandatory following a bout, after Ukraine’s Olga Kharlan refused to extend the courtesy to her Russian counterpart, Anna Smirnova, following a bout in Milan this week, according to Italian newspaper La Repubblica.

    “Thursday’s incident will change the rules of fencing,” La Repubblica reported on Friday, following discussions between FIE and the International Olympic Committee (IOC). “The traditional handshake at the end of the bout will be replaced with immediate effect by a distance greeting, which will allow Ukrainians not to approach the Russians, even if they compete as neutrals,” the report stated.
    Absolutely ridiculous...

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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:16 pm

    flamming_python wrote:There's nothing special about the Jews

    There have been a number of peoples in history who have fulfilled this role of a cosmopolitan, mercantile caste spread out as a diaspora away from their homeland. You can look at the Greeks in the Ottoman Empire or the Armenians in the same Ottoman Empire or today in Russia & America.

    While the intolerance of the Europeans towards the Jews was not something unique either. Right now with such unprecedented levels of Muslim immigration into Europe, the well-evidenced cultural barrier between the incoming culture and the old one leading to the formation of ghettos and communities with a focus on religiosity and conservatism - not wholly unlike how the Jews lived in Europe until the 19-20th centuries -  we're starting to see the same steady development of auto-segregation as well as Islamophobia on the part of the indigenous populations, mirroring the once pervasiveness of anti-Semitism in Europe.

    It's ultimately enough to observe that the Jews were not only in the diaspora in Europe/Russia/America. Half the world's Jewish population has for the longest time lived in the Muslim world. The Middle East, North Africa, Uzbekistan and the Caucasus. Where they weren't always out of trouble either but where their traditional values fit in better with the majority populations and where in fact there was no history whatsoever of 'subversion', or decadence or whatever. None whatsoever. The Islamic world had no room for such processes and Jews living there were not drawn to them either. They remained as rooted in their religion and cultural codes as their Muslim neighbors were.
    This phenomenon was specific to Europe and America. These philosophies and movements of relativism, secularism, materialism and so on were contributed to by a large number of assimilated and secular Jews but these same things were in the first place developments of European civilization, and were evolutions on the earlier rationalism and renaissance movements in which an absolute minimum of Jews ever took part.
    Thus Jews can be observed to be no more a subject of historical processes than any other people were. They did as others.


    The Jews have been a factor of destruction since ancient times. The Semite is a cosmopolitan race and therefore an enemy of tradition and roots. In religious terms, of course, they have an important role, being the murderers of Jesus Christ and the deniers of their own salvation. They have a messianic and supremacist conception that makes them incompatible in societies. It is his nature to be a merchant without roots. That is its essence. That is why globalism is a Jewish project. The citizen of the world, indebted, hedonistic, a slave without blood or land, without tradition except the religion of money and debt.
    Undoubtedly, they are one of those responsible for the dissolution of Western Christianity through the promotion of modern capitalism and banks. All secular and materialist ideologies have Jews at their base: Spinoza, Marx, Freud, Einstein, Butler. ..and the list can go on forever. The decadent cultural industry that is discussed in this section is led by Jews. For example, the Jew has a penchant for sex and the destruction of white women. In the Weimar Republic they were in charge of cabarets but today we see it in pedophilia, pornography and degenerate Hollywood cinema. Russia itself suffered from the Jewish mafia and the white slave trade, in addition to drug trafficking.
    There is no people in human history that can be compared to the Jews in dissolution. Investigate, search, you will not find it.

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    Post  flamming_python Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:55 pm

    ArgentinaGuard wrote:The Jews have been a factor of destruction since ancient times. The Semite is a cosmopolitan race and therefore an enemy of tradition and roots.

    Every cosmopolitan people becomes the enemy of its own tradition and roots.

    Japan, South Korea and China have no Jews yet birthrates in the cities have plummeted to below 1.0 per woman. Half of Japan's population is saying they don't want any kids.

    In religious terms, of course, they have an important role, being the murderers of Jesus Christ and the deniers of their own salvation. They have a messianic and supremacist conception that makes them incompatible in societies.

    Jesus Christ was not the first or the last man to die due to the outrage of religious fundamentalists. I should say that many more such people died due to the accusations of Christian authorities than Jewish ones, and that in Christ's case it was not accidental - he understood the challenge he was making and was prepared to die to spread his message.
    If God had wanted the Jews to accept Christ as the Messiah so then that's what would have happened. Well it didn't. It doesn't seem to me to be God's will that all of humanity worships him or conducts spiritual rites in the same way - and if it's not God's will then I don't see what cause you should have to be much upset either.

    Undoubtedly, they are one of those responsible for the dissolution of Western Christianity through the promotion of modern capitalism and banks.

    Nope, the Europeans started down that road on their own accord and then those Jews joined in that themselves became Europeans in all but name and adopted European education and thinking.
    Again, why didn't the Jews dismantle Islam? They lived in that part of the world for just as long.

    All secular and materialist ideologies have Jews at their base: Spinoza, Marx, Freud, Einstein, Butler. ..and the list can go on forever.

    The list can go on forever of contributors here that weren't Jewish, and you'd have to start all the way from the Renaissance... if not the Ancient Greeks. Materialist ideologists have Hegel at their base; all of Marx's thesis was developed off of his, and Hegel wasn't Jewish.
    And we can throw names here forever. Was Immanuel Kant Jewish? Copernicus?

    The decadent cultural industry that is discussed in this section is led by Jews. For example, the Jew has a penchant for sex and the destruction of white women.

    You forgot the Negro too

    Trouble is that America, even in the 19th century, was even then not exactly known as this guardian of European cultural tradition.
    The destruction of white women, as far as I understand the term, in America also didn't really start until the 70s. Which was way later than the Nazis and what they were alleging.

    In the Weimar Republic they were in charge of cabarets but today we see it in pedophilia, pornography and degenerate Hollywood cinema.

    In Cuba they had the same problem; a heavily corrupt laissez-faire regime who cared little about its own people and became a den of sexual malpractice for visiting tourists and so on.
    Part of the reason why Castro managed to lead a rebellion and seize power as it was part of the reason why the Nazis gathered support against the Weimar republic in the 20s.
    Thing is though I don't think there were all that many Jews in Cuba. Probably were some.

    Russia itself suffered from the Jewish mafia and the white slave trade, in addition to drug trafficking.

    Russia suffered from the dissolution of the Soviet Union and all sorts of mafias, ethnic and otherwise, and every other social ill under the sun - was entirely predictable.

    There is no people in human history that can be compared to the Jews in dissolution. Investigate, search, you will not find it.
    I think. I don't know your country of origin but you're half Anglo-Saxon, that's why you must like Jews.

    I'm half Jewish so I have some intimate knowledge already, or perhaps not, but I'm without an Anglo-Saxon bone in my body I'm afraid.

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    Post  higurashihougi Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:54 am

    ArgentinaGuard wrote:Communism is unnatural. The people who defend it seem ignorant and also horrible.

    In his time communism proposed a left-wing globalism. A murderous dictatorship, instead of today's consumerist and hedonistic placebo. But deep down they are the same.

    Communism has nothing to do with the nowadays consumerism. Consumerism is the direct consequence of capitalism, a mode of production whose consumption of the manufactured goods is critical for the circulation and accumulation of capital, i.e. the conversion of capital as products into money capital for the next cycle of investment.

    Consumerism is also the consequence of pauperization of the labourers due to the primitive accumulation of capital, which meant no longer possess the means of production, no longer have the ability to self-manufacture their neccessities, became merely waged workers, and were therefore completely subjected to the market to maintain their living means.

    And guess where is the birth place of the first mature system of capitalism. That is England, with had the earliest, most throughout, and bloodiest, process of primitive accumlation. It had nothing to do with the Jew.

    Communism is the very anti-thesis of consumerism because the means of production was collectively owned and democratically managed by all the workers, therefore manufacture should be performed by a concensus amongst the workers and suit the real needs of the whole society.

    Forgive my rudeness but I believe you have a complete misunderstanding about the concept of communism and capitalism, lead to a completely twisted perception of the issues.

    ArgentinaGuard wrote:All secular and materialist ideologies have Jews at their base: Spinoza, Marx, Freud, Einstein, Butler. ..and the list can go on forever.

    I see nothing wrong with secularism and materialism.

    Religion and belief should be private matters and no religion should be sponsored by the state.

    Material determines consciousness is a fact. You willpower cannot violate the objective rules of the universe. You cannot remove or change the Earth's gravitational force, in other to "fly" up the sky you can only find the place where it is the weakest and other available forces are more powerful to lift you up. And your thinking and your will is shaped by the historical context you are living in. Men make their own history, but they do not make it as they please; they do not make it under self-selected circumstances, but under circumstances existing already, given and transmitted from the past.

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