Backman Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:28 pm
John Helmer 100% believes that MH-17 was intentionally shot down to give a reason for Nato to put troops into Ukraine and the donbass specifically. Its been interesting to watch him back up this narrative. He has a new piece on it. John Helmer isn't pro Putin. He is skeptical of everyone but believes that the US is the most sinister actor. Helmer is not a hardcore partisan Russia supporter.
He has convinced me that MH-17 was intentional. I don't expect everyone to get on board with this narrative but i think its right.
THE DUTCH INVASION PLAN OF DONBASS BEFORE THE DOWNING OF MH17 ON JULY 17, 2014
-Two Dutch nationals, David Petraeus and Sandra Roelofs (lead image, centre), were involved in the US planning of an invasion of the Donbass region, eastern Ukraine, in the days running up to the downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 on July 17, 2014, when 193 Dutch and 38 Australians were among the 298 passengers and crew killed.
-With Nuland and Petraeus, Saakashvili told the newspaper, he had been discussing the war in Ukraine. “‘It’s the end of Putin,” Mr. Saakashvili, 46, said of Russia’s aggression in Ukraine, the topic of discussion on Thursday [September 18, 2014] as its president, Petro O. Poroshenko, met in Washington with President Obama and congressional leaders. Mr. Saakashvili called Mr. Putin’s actions ‘very, very similar’ to those in Georgia. ‘I think he walked into trap.’”
-Last week Saakashvili returned to Channel 24 in Kiev to reveal he had discussed details of a direct US intervention in eastern Ukraine in mid-2014. “ ‘I remember there was a moment when they could have taken Donetsk. I’m not saying this on my own — General Petraeus…sent me a long text message then, I was in upstate New York, on some holiday. He says: ‘A, B, C, D, D’ – it is written on the points why now is a good time to enter Donetsk,’ Saakashvili said. According to him, Petraeus insisted on the need to capture Donetsk, justifying this by the fact that the security forces could cope on their own. Saakashvili noted that he sent the plan of the American general to Petro Poroshenko, but he did not react. ‘Well, I understand that at least call back, get interested, invite this person, listen to his opinion. I would do this at least,’ he continued. According to Saakashvili, he called Poroshenko and tried to discuss with him the proposal of the American general, but the Ukrainian president took the topic of conversation in a different direction.”
Research by Liane Theuerkauf indicates the timing of Petraeus’s plan and his meeting and exchanges on the invasion plan with Saakashvili was in the early days of July 2014, immediately after Slavyansk and Kramatorsk were captured by Poroshenko’s army in the Donetsk region. Slavyansk fell on July 5; Kramatorsk the same day. Poroshenko announced his battle to take Donetsk and Lugansk cities on July 6 and again on July 8.
On July 10, 2014, the Poroshenko regime announced it had begun a “total attack” on “several fronts” against Donetsk and Lugansk. The tide had clearly turned by July 11 as Poroshenko’s losses mounted. But Poroshenko had fallen short in his effort to provoke Russia into a direct, visible military intervention. He was also failing to convince the US and NATO allies that they should intervene directly to support him”.
“On July 11 a major battle was fought near Lugansk, where a Ukrainian Air Force Su-25 was shot down. Much of Ukraine’s 79th Brigade was destroyed near Lugansk; the militia didn’t say where they obtained the Grad MLRS that were decisive in that battle. Ukraine’s 24th Mechanized Battalion met a similar fate. By July 14 Ukraine’s forces along the southern border – between 3,000 and 5,000 soldiers – were trapped in what was called the Southern Cauldron. Ukraine sent three armoured columns to resupply them, but they ran into stiff resistance. Both sides were claiming victory at the hotly contested airport at Lugansk. Near Lugansk a Ukrainian An-26 transport plane was shot down by the separatists, probably with a MANPAD; Kiev claimed, and possibly believed, that a Russian fighter had shot down the An-26 with an air-to-air missile. This happened just three days before MH17 was attacked.”
Full article http://johnhelmer.net/the-dutch-invasion-plan-of-donbass-before-the-downing-of-mh17-on-july-17-2017/