New combat aircraft will be presented at MAKS-2021

Thanks to QuadroFX (very big images)

https://radikal.ru/big/lst893hkaakt2
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The air channel is split, that makes the nose wheel more robust

higurashihougi wrote:
India is a potential target customer that Russia may plan to aim for.

India need a new fleet of modern light fighters to replace the aging MiG-21. The Tejas program is a failure, and purchasing more Rafale is not plausible due to the unreasonable cost.

The trailer clip shows that the mysterious fighter is aimed for export and the first customer may be foreign countries rather than Russian Air Forces.

Oh they are more devious than that. They are going to do what the F-35 is supposed to, but for the non-blue checkmark countries. The combination of lower prices plus the Russian flexibility in doing things means that even third world shitholes like mine can even dream of having their own stealth jet! Checkmate indeed. Russians better prepare to have a lot more room for palm oil or beef in their diets though.

Remember this from last year. https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/38114/no-russia-really-doesnt-need-a-new-single-engine-fighter

GarryB wrote:But you are not going to get definitive answers with speculation or logic but by waiting and looking at the decisions and choices they actually ended up making.

By now I already know the space is there, the side bays are there, the layout is essentially the same, the chin intake works, the tail works, the double-wheel nose landing gear is compatible with the air duct... many answers are there, the rest is pure anticipation

This is a Sukhoi single engined aircraft, MiG have already said they have single and twin designs.

Don't do this to you. You know there are not going to be more models for this size class, it would be absurd.

And what grief, the official word is this is for export, it is only speculation that the Russian military want this or could even have it within the next 10 years.

This is an external event, because internal events are... intern. We simply don't get any info about them until everything is said and done, and even then it takes years for us to really see anything. The model you see is a very sophisticated design which has necessarily been under study for several years. When it has reached this level of development in which it can be presented and offered, it means the main financial and technical risks are covered and they don't rely on foreign nations whims and political stability to develop further.

So you are saying this design is the best without seeing any other designs... glad you are keeping an open mind about this...

My mind is quite open, but when a project is presented officially this way and they make damn sure the whole world is aware, it means the other options have already been considered. But you can keep your hope further, how many more years?

When the first few crash because of engine stalls, you tell me why redundancy in propulsion is important...

I am fairly sure they will put an ejection seat on that thing...

And the Russian Navy has not signed off on a single engined fighter either... no matter how cheap they might claim it will be.

The important thing is that the technology is there. Engines are very reliable today.

Nah, much better they blame Russian hackers for somehow getting the plans for F-35M the big upgrade that American scientists have developed to solve all of its problems... those cheating Russians... the US is not in trouble... keep steaming full speed ahead at that water fall... it will give way to use because we are Merica...

The same day they show another Tsirkon launch and announce the ambitious plans of the Russian aerospace industry... bad day for Murican exceptionalists indeed...

They might need those paddles for roll control and with the engine nozzle there and the tail fins where they are it is like boosting their performance.

The force arm for roll is quite short there, but they will help too. Probably they are best for trimming the plane and as backup for the TVC. The canted tails will have some pitch authority too. They may help with braking, together with the tails I guess.

Putting L band AESA elements in those paddles would allow them to be raised and lowered for scanning like a scanner scans... making a 2D scanner into a 3D one.

They radiation pattern of those arrays is not a beam but (close to) a vertical plane, so no big difference by tilting them up and down.

Plus everything is being done in secret with this aircraft. For all we know there could already be firm orders.

If this forces the US to offer F-35's for everyone in the Gulf countries then Russia can offer it to Iran

higurashihougi wrote:

limb wrote:Currently western propaganda says russia desperate for money and that these countries would never buy the the LTS. UAE because its currently begging to be let in the F-35 program, Argentina because no money, and india because allegedly they are suck of russian low engine life, and because india is more pro-US now, leaving only Vietnam.

India is a potential target customer that Russia may plan to aim for.

India need a new fleet of modern light fighters to replace the aging MiG-21. The Tejas program is a failure, and purchasing more Rafale is not plausible due to the unreasonable cost.

The trailer clip shows that the mysterious fighter is aimed for export and the first customer may be foreign countries rather than Russian Air Forces.

But in the last 2 decades indian officials have not only not shown interest, but have actively tried to shit on russian products, constantly complaining about how the mig-29s engines have low life, the Su-57 lacks stealth, russian avionics are garbage and thats why they bought israeli ones for Su-30MKI, that the rafale is superior to the MiG-35, etc. Propaganda which the western media laps up enthusiastically and which destroys the export reputation of russian aircraft.

Given the BJPs dick riding of the US, I doubt that india will have any serious interest in the LTS other than saying how shit it is and how french/israeli/US tech is better. Also I think theres a 99% chance that if india takes interest
it will demand nonsensically little monetary contribution like with the FGFA.
Never underestimate BJP stupidity and blind ultranationalist trust in the clusterfuck that the Indian defence industry is. Im sure the vast majority of politicians there believe blindly that the AMCA is just around the corner or that uncle schmuk will sell them F-35s.

In short india is scummy and a much worse unreliable customer than say Algeria or Malaysia and its foolish to market to them when in 5 years indian officials will start complaining "russian engines suck" " israeli tech is so much better"

kvs wrote:I see the Drivel and others are claiming this is a clone of the F-35.   Why?  Because it has a single engine?   It has wings?
What a retarded joke.

Their latest strategy to cope with the butt-hurt is to say that this is a copy of the X-32. Or the F-16, or the Crusader, or the plane of the Wright Broders I guess. If you breath, they did already, or think about it before you did and you stole that from them.

What a bunch of sore losers...

miketheterrible wrote:
Add in it that unlike Russia, Turkey is actually financially broke.

Not only them.
Japan is functionally a bankrupted country. The budget deficit was 70 trillion Y last year, debt hit 270% of GDP
But yeah, they can afford to build 5th gen, I can even admit the 6th gen, and even 7th, if asked

It is a Sukhoi plane, but the layout is pure MiG heritage (MFI/LFI)

From the picture above you can see tge fighter from the top and its wings which are similar to a mig-29's wings.

Isos wrote:From the picture above you can see tge fighter from the top and its wings which are similar to a mig-29's wings.

Could be due to the LERX, to me it looked more like delta of the MiG-21s.

A quick glimpse of comparison with non-US & Chinese 5th Gen a/c. Think he has got it pretty much right. Hopefully exact shape & size of Checkmate might be available after tomorrow's unveiling.

Checkmate looks the best among all in top view.

^ Out of that lineup, the LMFS has some of the cleanest lines. Well proportioned.

They should have given it the Mig name just for its sake. Mig has a successful history with single engines. They are all under one roof anyway. It's just marketing at this point. Maybe do like the Mig 23 and have a Mig and Sukhoi version.

30% or so f-35 are grounded in the US because of the engine... so they should spend more time solving their own issues instead of spending ot on the bet to trashtalk about sukhoi.

However one engine aircraft have that issue that they have one engine. So in case of malfunction you can loose the aircraft easier than twin engine which are not safe at all too.

I would have added two rockets on the back to give it a last chance to reach an airfield. Something that pushes them to mach 2 and let them glide toward an airfield to save the plane. Like that they can glide for some 100km maybe which should be enough to find a runway or a portion of road to land.

If they want yaw effect with the TVC they can move the nozzle in an X config, and counter vertical with other surfaces which would make for very dramtic yaw effect if they want it. The tail can do so many things, roll, pitch and yaw.

limb wrote:

But in the last 2 decades indian officials have not only not shown interest, but have actively tried to shit on russian products, constantly complaining about how the mig-29s engines have low life, the Su-57 lacks stealth, russian avionics are garbage and thats why they bought israeli ones for Su-30MKI, that the rafale is superior to the MiG-35, etc. Propaganda which the western media laps up enthusiastically and which destroys the export reputation of russian aircraft.

Given the BJPs dick riding of the US, I doubt that india will have any serious interest in the LTS other than saying how shit it is and how french/israeli/US tech is better. Also I think theres a 99% chance that if india takes interest
it will demand nonsensically little monetary contribution like with the FGFA.
Never underestimate BJP stupidity and blind ultranationalist trust in the clusterfuck that the Indian defence industry is. Im sure the vast majority of politicians there believe blindly that the AMCA is just around the corner or that uncle schmuk will sell them F-35s.

In short india is scummy and a much worse unreliable customer than say Algeria or Malaysia and its foolish to market to them when in 5 years indian officials will start complaining "russian engines suck" " israeli tech is so much better"

Well, then I am sure that the Indian government will not mind if we sell a couple of squadrons each to Pakistan and China.

LMFS wrote:
It is a Sukhoi plane, but the layout is pure MiG heritage (MFI/LFI)

Didn't they both get put under the Rostec umbrella?

With everyone saying its a mockup, it would be so cool if a test pilot gets in and takes off. Unlikely to happen I agree, but it would be the Coup de grace of a really impressive PR campaign.

Backman wrote:^ Out of that lineup, the LMFS has some of the cleanest lines. Well proportioned.

Out of that lineup the LMFS has the best chance of actually making it into production. The Russians have the technology, the experience, and they also have the largest rolodex of possible operators to bankroll the thing. The others are as likely to succeed as a snowball's in hell; especially with Uncle Sam chopping off all ladders to the technologies necessary to develop such aircrafts.

Backman wrote:
They should have given it the Mig name just for its sake. Mig has a successful history with single engines. They are all under one roof anyway. It's just marketing at this point. Maybe do like the Mig 23 and have a Mig and Sukhoi version.

It probably won't be fair for both Sukhoi and MiG. For Sukhoi because its their men and resources they are pouring into the project and its only fair to give the credit where its due. MiG's is a proud and storied career with dozens of very successful aircraft designs to their name; they don't need pity points.

Scorpius wrote:
Well, then I am sure that the Indian government will not mind if we sell a couple of squadrons each to Pakistan and China.

Oh they absolutely would. Then they would just have to buy their own just to compete

One of Western mass media says that US intelligence calls new fighter "Screamer"



They are scared?) Hahaha

Who cares about their name choices ? Did they become the reference like a wikipedia that we have to quote/listen to ?

The only name is the one that its creator gives it. Just stop quoting them. That should be a forum rule.


Those assholes will soon start renaming people.

Well they are going to give it a name whether you like it or not.

NATO will probably call it something like Flatfish for sure!

I know this name is well used but I think Russia should name it Akula

It reminds me this bird called Hirondelle in french, Swallow in english. Same aerdynamics.