China’s hammer blow to private education

par far wrote:Me, being able to afford private schooling for my kids, don't really like.

Mir wrote:Russia is actually a very good example of how the elite kept the masses from getting educated.

Back in Tsarist Russia a census of 1897 revealed that only 27% of Russian residents were literate. Education was basically preserved for the elite.
There was some improvement in the early 20th Century but it was only after the October Revolution that educating the people became a priority.
The USSR had one of the highest literacy rates in the world at around 99%.

higurashihougi wrote:

par far wrote:Me, being able to afford private schooling for my kids, don't really like.

Would you like to elaborate more of your opinion about this ? (serious question, no mocking)

ALAMO wrote:

Mir wrote:Russia is actually a very good example of how the elite kept the masses from getting educated.

Back in Tsarist Russia a census of 1897 revealed that only 27% of Russian residents were literate. Education was basically preserved for the elite.
There was some improvement in the early 20th Century but it was only after the October Revolution that educating the people became a priority.
The USSR had one of the highest literacy rates in the world at around 99%.

You are to harsh on them. I mean Tsarist.
27% of literacy ratio at the end of 18th century is actually not that bad. That includes native tribes, remember that.
That is in pair with Spain, Mexico, Portugal or Finland.
In the US, illiteracy among the black population reached 70% in the early 19th century. In your country, about 5% of the black population was literate in 1904.
Plus, we can't trust those data in full, as the studies were made at totally different times. There was a huge number of people, who could read but could not write those times.

flamming_python wrote:I think it's the right move albeit as mentioned, performed with the typical Chinese ruthlessness

If there is a demand for private education, then that means that public education is in some manner deficient
Unless it's purely a matter of nepotism and status, for rich parents to send their kids to such schools. But that's symptomatic of society and the economy itself.

Still, I'm pretty sure there is plenty of scope for public schools to improve in China, as in Russia and other places

It's better instead to impose limits on the private education sector while continuing to invest into the public one

andalusia wrote:I find it amazing that Americans consider public education to be Marxist and tend to support private schools; I guess it is an indication of American oligarchy tendencies.  

You would be called a communist for your support for public education because Americans worship private markets and think anything government is evil and bad.

Why do you think of the American hatred of all things government like education, health care and public transportation?

GarryB wrote:

Me, being able to afford private schooling for my kids, don't really like.

Didn't even realise you were Chinese.....  

I find it amazing that Americans consider public education to be Marxist and tend to support private schools; I guess it is an indication of American oligarchy tendencies.  

You would be called a communist for your support for public education because Americans worship private markets and think anything government is evil and bad.

Why do you think of the American hatred of all things government like education, health care and public transportation?

Americans seem to trust big business over big government... which I find amusing considering Trump and Biden and the Clintons represent big business more than they represent big government....

Private ownership suggests efficiency and less waste, while government run often suggests bloated over staffed and lazy and inefficient, but when it comes to prisons private ownership essentially turns your prison population into slave labour, and education into a serial production like for making accountants and economists and not much else because privately run schools have to make a profit or they are not interested.

I noticed the other countries don't have high school or college sports.

Not sure where you got that information from, sports is part of education here in New Zealand from the first day to the last at tertiary level... though obviously at higher levels it becomes optional.

GarryB wrote:Private ownership suggests efficiency and less waste, while government run often suggests bloated over staffed and lazy and inefficient, but when it comes to prisons private ownership essentially turns your prison population into slave labour, and education into a serial production like for making accountants and economists and not much else because privately run schools have to make a profit or they are not interested.

higurashihougi wrote:

par far wrote:Me, being able to afford private schooling for my kids, don't really like.

Would you like to elaborate more of your opinion about this ? (serious question, no mocking)