China's development as a superpower

GarryB wrote:The problem is that the EU is not a power.... it remains a vassal state subservient to the US.

Until they can start making their own decisions there is not much point in talking to them...

Aristide wrote:

GarryB wrote:The problem is that the EU is not a power.... it remains a vassal state subservient to the US.

Until they can start making their own decisions there is not much point in talking to them...

Oh Gary, again stuck in the past.

Maybe you should follow and see how politics develop. Its a core goal of France to crush USA out of Europe.

Germany supports this.

Are you telling me USA ordered Germany and France to vote against USA imposing UNSC sanctions on Iran?

Are you telling me USA ordered France and Germany to walk out the WHO reform process started by USA. With french and german diplomats saying that USA has no authority to demand anything regarding the WHO?

US influence in Europe is limited to small eastern european shitholes like Poland and the Baltics.

According to newest EU rules, US companies are even excluded from new defense projects.

P.s: When will New Zealand stop its Corona Paranoia? Crazy how much facism you willingly allow because a cough and cold.

kvs wrote:

Aristide wrote:

GarryB wrote:The problem is that the EU is not a power.... it remains a vassal state subservient to the US.

Until they can start making their own decisions there is not much point in talking to them...

Oh Gary, again stuck in the past.

Maybe you should follow and see how politics develop. Its a core goal of France to crush USA out of Europe.

Germany supports this.

Are you telling me USA ordered Germany and France to vote against USA imposing UNSC sanctions on Iran?

Are you telling me USA ordered France and Germany to walk out the WHO reform process started by USA. With french and german diplomats saying that USA has no authority to demand anything regarding the WHO?

US influence in Europe is limited to small eastern european shitholes like Poland and the Baltics.

According to newest EU rules, US companies are even excluded from new defense projects.

P.s: When will New Zealand stop its Corona Paranoia? Crazy how much facism you willingly allow because a cough and cold.

If the NATzO serfs of Uncle Swine-shit were really independent, then they would not be sucking his schlong as to natural gas imports.    
You have no leg to stand on with your absurd claims that NATzO vassals are free to do as they please.   The only time that was true
for France was when de Gaulle was in office.    Micron, Hollande, Sarkozy are/were all pathetic sock puppets.   Sarkozy engaged in
the gang rape of Libya, Hollande cut off France's own testicles in the Mistral case because yanquis snapped their fingers and the
trained poodle had to respond.    France also dished out over 8 billion dollars in imperial bank fines to the yanquis for daring to not conform
to the yanqui script exactly.

The EU is cannon fodder for the anglos.   Like during the 1930s, the anglos think that they will use you idiots to roll over Russia
to find the final solution to the Russian "problem".     And you idiots will oblige with a smile.   Because Navalny and "novichoke".


 

kvs wrote:

Tsavo Lion wrote:China doesn't need nor wants to be a superpower. Being a major regional power with Global reach is enough: 
https://asiatimes.com/2020/08/the-eurasian-century-has-already-begun/?mc_cid=4fcea32b9e&mc_eid=5455568640

https://www.juancole.com/2020/08/bruited-investment-beijing.html

But since China is competition to Uncle Swine-shit, it will be targeted as an "existential threat" anyway.   Russia is getting the same treatment.
Yanquis will not even tolerate large trade outside of their control.  

Scorpius wrote:

You're missing out on some opportunities. Let's say you sold some advanced weapons to China or India, and they want to copy them. In order to copy modern high-tech weapons, you must not only know the detailed process of technological production, up to the effort of tightening fasteners (India actually destroyed dozens of its Su-30MKI due to the fact that Indian workers at the assembly plant tightened fasteners on power structures too much, which led to accelerated wear and tear cracking). You must have the entire technological chain - from the production of structural materials to the assembly and testing of large components and final products.
Well, if you want it, Russia has specialists who will help you create these technological chains. Russia will invest the proceeds from these transactions in further research and development of new weapons.

Podlodka77 wrote:
You have almost nothing left to offer China.....
Where would the Russians be now if China turned its back on them ? They would have to launch nuclear weapons right away..If China turned its back on Russia, other countries would also turn their backs.
You underestimate China and overestimate Russia.
All NATOphiles and Russophiles behave as if the Berlin Wall is still standing and there is no one but the West and Russia...
Those times are over...

The Chinese have discipline, a term that equates to science fiction in Russia and in the West.
I am the biggest "fan" of China on this forum and I don't hide it.

Podlodka77 wrote:Since you are "smart", tell me which engine the Russians use in the tank biathlon on their T-72B3 tanks ?      
If you are so stupid that you believe that the Russians use the same tanks as the other members, then I don't know what to write to you..
The Russians win that biathlon because they use V-92S2F engines with a power of 1130 PS.
Chinese equipment is "crap" even though they have produced more J-10 aircraft than the Russians of all tactical aircraft since the early 2000s.
Two project 22350 frigates built since 2006 and only 8 operational corvettes operational since 2007.
That's good, isn't it, but Chinese equipment is "crap".

And the fact that you fart about the Chinese also applies to the Russians, for example the first crash of the only flight prototype Il-112, as well as the crash of the first production Su-57.

Podlodka77 wrote:Since you are "smart", tell me which engine the Russians use in the tank biathlon on their T-72B3 tanks ?      
If you are so stupid that you believe that the Russians use the same tanks as the other members, then I don't know what to write to you..
The Russians win that biathlon because they use V-92S2F engines with a power of 1130 PS.
Chinese equipment is "crap" even though they have produced more J-10 aircraft than the Russians of all tactical aircraft since the early 2000s.
Two project 22350 frigates built since 2006 and only 8 operational corvettes operational since 2007.
That's good, isn't it, but Chinese equipment is "crap".

And the fact that you fart about the Chinese also applies to the Russians, for example the first crash of the only flight prototype Il-112, as well as the crash of the first production Su-57.

sepheronx wrote:And China seems to have trouble trying to get a serious jet engine going or, the fact India spotted the J-20 from roughly 180km away using Bars M radar.  Or as said, J-20 while in "mass production" seems to be being produced same time as J-20 and other jets.