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Russia could just remove India from her list of prospective customers.
They could, but why would they?
Now that the war in Ukraine has taken out Kiev as competition for support contracts for Soviet material and most of eastern europe has just been drained of ammo and material of the Soviet period and will now transition to making western shit, Russia is in a very good position to make good money selling weapons and ammo and equipment to support their older catalogue of products to the world that still wants them (because they are simple and reliable and cheap).
Russia makes weapons, and India needs weapons... the only places that would be overjoyed at Russia turning its back on India would be the west, which just shows what a stupid idea it would be.
Bad for Russia and bad for India too.
Not sever relations with India. What I mean is Russia should carry out these projects without looking at India as a prospective buyer.
This aircraft programme seems to be in conjunction with UAE and not India just yet, but if the specs and numbers pan out India would be stupid to ignore such an aircraft... they probably can't make Tegas for the price they could buy Checkmate for and Tegas is not a 5th gen stealth fighter.
I agree that Russia should not design and make weapons and equipment that rely on India buying them to make them viable but this is clearly not the case and it wasn't the case with the Su-57 either despite most western organisations trying to suggest the reason Russia could afford a 5th gen fighter was because India was funding it.
Indias programme was totally separate from the Russian programme.
They may put down an order for 100 SU57s and suddenly change at the last minute when the US offers them F15EXs for double the money.
You say they might but that does not make it true. There is a pro France faction in the Indian military, but I am not so sure they are so excited about their American kit which is rather expensive.
Algeria will never do this. Nor will Vietnam. Nor will Iran, Angola or Myanmar. These are the countries Russia should prioritize.
You say this too but does that make it true?
Algeria dropped their order of MiG-29SMTs when they got an offer from Sukhoi for Su-30s at the same price, and Iran hasn't got a perfect record with Russia either.
What country would turn down a better offer out of loyalty?
Not many...
Especially when the decisions are normally taken by politicians where bribes come into the equation.
However some of these corrupt politicians are also in love with western equipment for some reasons and like to criticize russian systems instead.
The western propaganda machine runs 24/7 promoting western kit and glossing over its problems and weaknesses, while the complaints about Russian and Soviet equipment come thick and fast and repeated and amplified over and over every chance they get... and even then when fair trade does not work there is economic threats of sanctions like CAATSA etc.
Their mig-29k are slightly older than russian mig-29k. They also don't know how to maintain them.
New builds that incorporate western technology... western propaganda would claim the Indian MiGs should be better than the Russian MiGs.
Their weapons also suck. Export R-77 is really shitty and they don't have rvv-sd or r-37M.
Hahaha.... yes, western propaganda is that their R-77s suck and AMRAAMs are superior despite evidence in combat suggesting otherwise.
They could order RVV-SD and RVV-BD if they wanted them.
R-73 is still world class and R-74 (RVV-MD) is even better.
They need to face chinese carrier groups. A rafale with meteor is way better than their mig-28K with r-77.
Again western propaganda at work... India has no more reason to prepare for war with China than Mexico has reason to prepare for war with the US, or the US has reason to prepare for war with Canada.
Rafale would require cats... the US wont sell their cats technology so India can buy French planes... French carriers use US cat technology don't they?
16 Rafales for a single aircraft carrier would triple the cost of the carrier...
MiG-29KR should be compatible with R-37M and Russia has a habit of selling things to India that they don't sell to anyone else so it might be a 300km range version instead of the normal export 200km range model (compared with the 400km range domestic model... but that is because it is carried by the MiG-31 and is launched at 18-22km altitude at speeds of mach 2.5 plus).
But frankly I suspect Rafale or f-18 to be way worse in terms of maintenance which will make their carriers useless.
The Hornet would be their worst choice because at least they have MiGs and Rafales in service already, but the requirement for cats makes the two western options less appealing and more expensive than they already are.
The problem is Russia is asking India to be a pan handler again but for a different 5th gen program and our nationalistic Indians in india defense net forum will not be too happy that they fear this will kill their AMCA project. I hate it that 5th gen programs start with immediately asking for other countries to go fund it. Don't start any military aircraft project if your country is not willing to go finance it. I am sure we would score contract deals selling Su-75s to India but asking them to go throw billions is just you know already asking for too much.
I think you are missing the point... this is Sukhoi saying they will take their product to this years Aero India defence airshow to present their latest product for export.
It is not a Russian Air Force project, this is something Sukhoi has put together as an export product with UAE... if India wants to buy some or invest then fine, but if they don't that is fine too... there is a good chance that many countries are going to get on board with this aircraft.
Buying a light 5th gen fighter makes sense because it is affordable so investing into it makes sense... a bit like lots of European countries bought F-16s but not so many bought F-15s because they were too expensive to buy in large numbers unless you were a rich country that was showing off.
This new light 5th gen fighter is half the price or less of western 4+ gen fighters and its operational costs appear to be similar to the operational costs of the MiG-21 which means you can buy more and also operate more without breaking the bank.... this is a 5th gen light fighter that is probably cheaper to buy and to operate than many US HALE and MALE type drones!!!!
It hasn't even flown yet... they are showing it around and gauging interest in purchases and production.
Obviously countries making it themselves will spend rather more, but countries wanting cheap fighters could buy off the shelf and get a great deal.
The FGFA program failed for a series of factors and unfortunate events
If you want to make something yourself then you make it more expensive than if you just bought it... if they could have bitten the bullet and just accepted the Russian Su-57 the way it was they might be producing it now at a price where they might have rather a lot entering service and a good return on all their investments.
With the light 5th gen fighter by its very nature of being cheaper and also cheaper to operate, you often want rather more of these so it actually makes more sense to make your own.
For India the best deal might be to buy 200 Su-57s in kit form and assemble them in India with an option for the same again in a couple of years time, but to actually set up for production of the numbers plane... the Su-75 because eventually it is going to replace all their other lighter aircraft, from Tegas, through MiG-21, 27, 29, and also Jaguar and M2K.
They might end up with a fleet of say 400 Su-57s and 5-600 Su-75s with some Su-30s further upgraded and some Rafales for roles where stealth is not needed...
The FGFA died because India wanted a two seat option and they wanted a higher stealth level but were not prepared to pay for the increases in costs that would create.
A naval Su-57 programme means a two seat model will likely be developed anyway so India has cancelled its FGFA project but will likely wait for production two seaters and buy them or licence produce them locally.
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