It's staring u in the face
Keymags is a rabidly anti Russian publisher, Reuters? Sold out to western intel decades ago.
Business Insider and English Wiki are rat shit sources too.
Should Soviet citizens have lapped up Nazi German reports about their casualties too?
They are a party to the war and are obliged to make the Russian position appear worse than it actually is, so obviously the numbers are wrong.
I present multiple sources- every1 is free to make their own conllusions. Western sources r not all pro-Ukr. & many r neutral.
The west that has one party of the conflict under heavy economic sanctions and is banning them from international sports events, while the other they feed billions of dollars and weapons and equipment and ammo into every week... of course they are not neutral... they have to justify all the resources they have invested into a failed state and also justify to their people the coming hardships they are going to have to endure to they can punish Russia for doing something they cornered her in to doing in the first place.
If I was posting Russian sources on a Ukr. forum, I would be accused of posting russian propaganda there for sure.
On an Orc forum you would be immediately banned for life and probably put on a kill list.
We only have a kill list... (just kidding...
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most Soviets didn't have access to German media then; if they had & the NKVD found out, every1 knew what would happen to them, so they kept their thoughts to themselves.
Yes, the west has a long history of exploiting freedom and democracy... look at how many western media propaganda sources there are in the world... all western media and social media outlets, as well as foreign owned Russian news sources too...
They can only blame themselves for the bad name they give democracy and so called freedom.
They sell two engine fighter as safer than sinhle engines because they can run on one engine.
There plenty of cases of 1 engine not working of the two but that led to a crash.
That's why single engine jet like su-75 need to be bought. Twin engines are more expensive and not necessarely safer.
A twin engined aircraft has a chance to shut down the engine and put out the fire and then restart the engine.... with a single engined fighter there are no options other than eject.
The 1st source I posted claims to have done an independent study- how would they benefit by posting inaccurate/false data?
All propaganda outlets promise the truth and the story from all angles because they are honest and you can trust them, but they really have no access to real information from inside the Russian military... I bet you they worked out that number by looking on the internet for photos of aircraft pieces and then doubled that number and they got 15 because some of the photos were Ukrainian aircraft but they didn't know or care.
The west has picked its side and is not going to be honest about anything.
Germany and France have spent the last 7 odd years complaining that Russia wasn't complying with the Minsk agreements... except the Minsk agreements are about Kiev talking with the Donbass and Lugansk region leaders and Russia has no responsibilities at all... but you wont read that in western publications telling you what is happening them.
It is all evil Putin... soon they will be telling Americans the only way Republicans will do well in the elections in early November is with Russian hackers and Putins henchmen manipulating the numbers...
Even after the war, as history shows, there will be conflicting reports & statistics of how many were lost, by type/whom, & by what reason.
After the war Russia will release more detailed information.
I doubt they'll put helo missiles on it!
It is a tactical short range missile... think of it as 1/3rd of a Kh-25 except with IIR seeker and a two way datalink so the aircrew can track the missiles progress and change targets if a new target appears that is worthy of attention.
By regiment:
3 Voronezh
2 Morozovsk
3 Chelyabisnk
3 Khurba
1 Lipetsk
But we were told one regiment lost half its planes... how can that be true if the losses occurred from so many different regiments?
Almost like it was an extra lie...
According to published data, known signed and awarded contracts include:
- with United Aircraft Corporation JSC - a contract was signed for the supply of Su-34 front-line bombers;
Why would they buy more if they are total shit?
Surely they would stop buying everything except Su-57s... unless the other aircraft have been useful and have been worth risking aircrew operating them...
What you just said makes zero sense.
He thinks Russia is America and only the 1% get richer while the rest of the country and infrastructure is left to rot...
They always have enough cash for the military & security forces but can't have a strong middle class on its feet
Their social spending and infrastructure spending suggests they have a better chance of creating a strong middle class than the US right now who seem hell bent on preventing people from being able to afford health care.
What can cause both engines to just burn out like that? Birdstrikes?
The buildings are at the end of the runway, and the aircraft was full of fuel... losing half your power on takeoff when you are at low flight speed and low altitude can mean you are unable to climb.... and if buildings are in the way then a crash is almost certain for any aircraft.
The Su-34 is not a tiny light sports car with huge engines, it is a strike aircraft.... it is capable of decent speed but not with one engine shut down at takeoff.
Most other airfields it probably would have been fine... shut down the engine on fire and shut down the fuel and engage fire fighting systems to put the fire out while slowly climbing and accelerating... once up to speed and at a safe altitude it could have done a circuit and landed safely.
This is BS. So they just sat on their asses with no modernization progress before the war.
Actually I suspect they probably have a few lessons to learn from this conflict which might effect the new equipment and design of the Su-34M and the experience of this conflict might make the Su-34M to actually be rather better.
Now they know how amazing the Rafale is, they might spend a bit of money and copy all the systems that make the Rafale so damn amazing and put them in the Su-34M design.
Such a plane would never crash or be shot down so they would only need about 20.
Either "conventional" malfunction or sabotage?
Someone I remember recently reading has suggested that the jet might have been hit by a smaller anti-aircraft missile from a MANPAD.
Could also be a sniper shot from an anti-material rifle?
Or even from a smaller caliber gun who got a lucky shot?
Security around a military air field is pretty tight, but of course never perfect.
I would think Kiev would be crowing about a successful attack if they had anything to do with it like after the attack on the Crimean bridge.
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