Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News #2

caveat emptor wrote:Some confirmation for claims that AMCXXL and Lsos put forward about lost Su-34, is published on Serbian military forum by one of the members that went through all posts in the forum on Ukraine war (over 6500 pages) and found that ending with July 15, 2024 23 Su-34 were shot down, majority of them during first year of war. All with pictures and most of them with names and photos of the crew.

Now it remains to compare this number with the number of sorties flown by the Su-34 during this period.

Isos wrote:

Belisarius wrote:

Now it remains to compare this number with the number of sorties flown by the Su-34 during this period.

With over 100 operational Su-34s, each capable of flying multiple sorties per day, for over two and a half years, I would be surprised if the number of losses amounts to even 0.01% of the total number of combat sorties.

What a pathetic attempt to save the face. Copium hard...

24 out 156 serial produced (according to wiki) is more than 10% of the fleet lost.

william.boutros wrote:

Not all are in the upgraded version.
Also, I wonder why don't they upgrade their Su24 with precision capabilities? It seems the bottle neck is in the upgrade kits and not the airframes themselves.

ALAMO wrote:

Isos wrote:Even if it was 3 million soties, what's the point ?
After loosing a huge quantity the first if thel, they stopped going inside Ukraine with that plane.
The number of used glide bombs is something like 3-4000 thousands. The other 175000 sorties are done for what ? Nothing.

Jesus holly crisp, you are either dumber than one can imagine or just so obsessed with your idea fixes that no common sense arrives into your muddy brain.
This is a conflict on a scale nobody in NATO fought since Korean war.
No-fukin-body.
Both sides involve more than 1.5 mln soldiers spread across 1200 km frontline.
No country NATO attacked, ever, had a potential so much on pair as we are facing now.
Ukraine operated THOUSANDS air defense systems of all types and tiers, and was supplied with the shocking number of NATO produced ones.
NATO delivered more systems to 404 than France operates, including some of those being the most advanced we have in arsenals - in the case of Iris it is not even adopted in Germany yet.
All of NATO command and control subsystems are providing recon to the Ukro side - we don't have anything better to be used in a case of a major war with Russkie.
Even if we consider the most pussy shit talk you can find out there, it will turn out that Russkie total losses are in a range of 100 aircraft of all kinds. Including malfunctions, friendly fire, and sabotage.
That is on pair to what the coalition has lost in Desert Storm in fukin 2 months, facing an opponent who was a shade of Ukrainian power. And who was delivered to a coalition on a silver plate by the west European subcontractors that have built the entire AD, communication, and command system of Hussain. Every single data center, every single command station, every single communication hub location, and technical details have been provided to the coalition before the campaign, making a planning process a fukin park visit.
In Korea, coalition has lost about 3000 planes, making a thousand per year - or 3 per DAY.
In Vietnam US losses were FOUR aircraft a DAY.
Russkie losses in this 2.5 year campaign are shockingly low, and this is crystal clear to any professional.
Su-34 proved to be a formidable weapon system, delivering a giant share of all ordnance in this conflict.
Which is why those have not only being ordered at increased scale, but upgraded according to the conflict lessons learned.
You lack a single clue and historical/technical perspective on the matter, and all you can provide to this community is an endless show of arrogance.
It is actually pathetic rather than anything else, but it is your choice how to present yourself in front of multinational community.

Agree with all, but give su34 some better sensors and MAWS and RWR

That’s all

Vietnam certainly had a much weaker AD than Ukraine, but also a much weaker tactical air force.

Ukraine lost most of its planes plus those that the West gave them from the former Warsaw Pact countries and additionally planes that they renovated during the war. I don't know what the number is, but it was certainly quite large.

The USA had such an advantage in air force that they carried out bombing campaigns like those against the Third Reich.

This will highly likely at the very least include an upgrade to the Platan sight.