VVS Russian Airforce Force: News #2

GarryB wrote:

Overall it seems that Russian Aerospace Defense forces are going to get a lot of additional hardware to work with, likely phasing out older S-300P systems (whilst I am sure they'll still keep the S-300V family ones). I wonder what system is poised to replace the 9K33.

S-300V is an Army system and is not used by the Airforce or Navy AFAIK.

200+ new planes would likely be light planes like the MiG-35 and also a Checkmate type... whether it is actually Checkmate or the light single engined MiG model displayed at MAKS21, or a twin engined version.

I wonder if they would count S-70 type drones amongst the new planes?

Perhaps a new type of unmanned "fighter" designed to shoot down enemy drones and munitions by flying up to their altitude and getting close and using cheap guided short range missiles to engage cheap drone and munition like threats...

- S300PM's were upgraded to some S400 compatibility
- 76 Su57, 76 Su34M, 30 Su35S, 21 Su30SM2 and 24 Su34NVO = 227

Perhaps a new type of unmanned "fighter" designed to shoot down enemy drones and munitions by flying up to their altitude and getting close and using cheap guided short range missiles to engage cheap drone and munition like threats... Suspect this job would go to the Yak-130 in a shooting war.

franco wrote:

GarryB wrote:

Overall it seems that Russian Aerospace Defense forces are going to get a lot of additional hardware to work with, likely phasing out older S-300P systems (whilst I am sure they'll still keep the S-300V family ones). I wonder what system is poised to replace the 9K33.

S-300V is an Army system and is not used by the Airforce or Navy AFAIK.

200+ new planes would likely be light planes like the MiG-35 and also a Checkmate type... whether it is actually Checkmate or the light single engined MiG model displayed at MAKS21, or a twin engined version.

I wonder if they would count S-70 type drones amongst the new planes?

Perhaps a new type of unmanned "fighter" designed to shoot down enemy drones and munitions by flying up to their altitude and getting close and using cheap guided short range missiles to engage cheap drone and munition like threats...

- S300PM's were upgraded to some S400 compatibility
- 76 Su57, 76 Su34M, 30 Su35S, 21 Su30SM2 and 24 Su34NVO = 227

Perhaps a new type of unmanned "fighter" designed to shoot down enemy drones and munitions by flying up to their altitude and getting close and using cheap guided short range missiles to engage cheap drone and munition like threats... Suspect this job would go to the Yak-130 in a shooting war.

Yak-130 would be most ideal. Making it unmanned with Igla missiles or whatever to take out enemy drones would be great. Could also work with lets say a manned Yak-130 that acts as a control center sort of thing.

They are talking about putting the MiG AT or the SR-10 into service because the Yak-130 is so much more expensive to operate than the L39, so I think a better solution needs to be found than that...

Plus frontal aviation will want numbers of aircraft too in the Checkmate range in terms of size and cost, so it makes sense not to look at the Yak-130 and instead look at something designed to be cheaper to operate.

In the mean time a drone would likely be the cheapest option by far with a weapon load of cheap missiles like Shturm or Ataka with proximity fuses, or old model Igla missiles.

A new model MANPAD that is designed for use against small light targets within 2km range should be developed.

Being launched in flight its rocket motor could be made much less powerful than something that needs to be launched from the ground, which would make it much lighter.

A simple optical seeker for targets with very small RCS, perhaps with a thermal channel to make the drones stand out better... especially ones at altitude where the low temperatures will make them rather cold.

It does not need to be super fast so folding wings for attacks from behind they would essentially become suicide drones intended for from behind ramming attacks.... they could be made cheap and simple... perhaps a cheap and simple pulse detonation jet engine could be used for propulsion allowing it to catch and kill its target.

Of course laser guided 57mm rockets in rocket pods could be a much easier way to achieve results too.

A drone could carry two 16 shot pods, while an aircraft like a light trainer could carry the 32 shot pods... an Su-25 could carry 8 x 32 shot pods... that would be 256 rockets... it could include smoke and illumination rockets as well as perhaps short range jammers as well as laser guided HE...

You would probably want a belly mounted MMW radar pod to detect the drones and track them.

Below 4km you would probably be better off with Mi-28NMs... air burst 30mm cannon shells...

I was expecting the usual Russian planes suck BS. But I felt this was quite balanced and also speaks about why the RUAF supports the strategic and tactical docterine of the Russian Military as a whole.

How Russian Air Force plan to neutralize enemy AD systems

MOSCOW, November 29. / TASS /. The number of new technology in the Aerospace Forces (VKS) is planned to increase to 89% in 2022. Lieutenant-General Andrei Yudin, deputy commander-in-chief of the Aerospace Forces, said this in an interview with the Krasnaya Zvezda newspaper .

"Within the framework of the State Defense Order in 2022, it is planned to purchase more than 200 units of the main types of weapons, military and special equipment of the Aerospace Forces, which will make it possible to achieve a modernity level of 89%," he said.

According to Yudin, in 2021, overhaul and modernization of more than 200 samples of weapons, military and special equipment of the Aerospace Forces will be completed.

"Currently, there is an active phase of the supply of weapons to the troops, and taking into account the fulfillment by industrial organizations of their obligations by the end of 2021, the share of modern weapons and military equipment will be 87%, and serviceability will reach 83%," the deputy chief commander said.

https://tass-ru.translate.goog/armiya-i-opk/13050241?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=nui

Russian Aerospace Forces planes delivered humanitarian aid to Kabul

I have had a sense that this would be in the works with perhaps more forward airfield deployments then presently.

On December 8, 2021, Russian airspace control devices over the neutral waters of the Black Sea detected air targets approaching the State Border of the Russian Federation.

To identify air targets and prevent violations of the State Border of the Russian Federation, Su-27 fighters from the air defense forces of the Southern Military District were taken into the air.

The crews of the Russian fighters identified the aerial targets as two tactical fighters Mirage-2000 and Rafale, as well as the French Aerospace Forces C-135 tanker and escorted them over the Black Sea.

At what range do these kind of interceptions occur ? Also I noticed the mirage 2000 was carrying what looked like Magic II IR missile, could have been MICA.

But basically I don't think I've ever seen , or maybe its unusual, when NATO planes get close to russian border, they're never armed. This is dangerous isn't it? Why would French jets be flying near RU territory with missiles on pylons??

Because when you are being a dick it is important to always go full retard...

HATO rule number 6.

Evacuation of citizens from Afghanistan by aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces

Some air force/air defence control room (was shown in the video about drones)

This command system is called Bastion and uses data of all radar systems to monitor the situation around the border.

Hole wrote:Some air force/air defence control room (was shown in the video about drones)

Can't help but notice the series of orbit patterns around the Turkish border with Syria near Idlib. Russian/Turkish Drones, maybe?

Photos rather than videos but I've just stumbled across this account on instagram, some nice 'insider' pics.

https://www.instagram.com/chkala_crew/?hl=en

11.01.2022 Lenta.ru

Arsenals for hypersonic missiles will be prepared in Russia

At military airfields in Russian regions, the preparation of infrastructure for the Kinzhal hypersonic complexes is being completed. Special facilities are designed for the maintenance and testing of hypersonic missiles. This was reported by the Izvestia newspaper.
Sources of the publication in the Russian Ministry of Defense noted that the infrastructure for servicing hypersonic missiles is being created in the units of the Aerospace Forces (VKS), which will use the Kinzhal. In several regions of Russia, they are working on equipping arsenals for storing missiles, as well as sites for repairing, testing and servicing missiles.

Military expert Viktor Murakhovsky noted that the Aerospace Forces units will provide storage, preparation for combat use and maintenance of missiles. He stressed that the Aerospace Forces units are also ready to deploy MiG-31K aircraft carried by the Kinzhal. Earlier, the Russian Northern Fleet reported that the Zircon hypersonic missile was successfully launched from a surface ship during tests almost ten times.

In September, the head of the Rostec state corporation, Sergei Chemezov, said that there were no means in the world that could withstand the Kinzhal missiles. He noted that hypersonic missiles are fast and accurate.

Hole wrote:Some air force/air defence control room (was shown in the video about drones)

Why is some text in Cyrillic and for example, on the right, in English (Total, Foe, Friend, Unknown).

Regards

My guess is that the same info is send to the syrian side.

11E wrote:

Hole wrote:Some air force/air defence control room (was shown in the video about drones)
https://i.servimg.com/u/f10/19/89/13/22/screen75.jpg

Why is some text in Cyrillic and for example, on the right, in English (Total, Foe, Friend, Unknown).

Regards

Software interface is in English but the map which it uses is in Cyrillic

Map was made separately from the software

Relocation of Su-35S VVO aircraft to the territory of the Republic of Belarus as part of joint exercises