The Situation in the Ukraine. #31

JohninMK wrote:One reason why the stunning story on mp.net in 2014/5 will not be repeated if it blows.

Pepe Escobar
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All information platforms from the Luhansk People's Republic were banned by YouTube.

Same with the channels by the Ministry of Information and the People's Militia of Donetsk.

This is called "freedom of the press".

PhSt wrote:

JohninMK wrote:One reason why the stunning story on mp.net in 2014/5 will not be repeated if it blows.

Pepe Escobar
@RealPepeEscobar
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All information platforms from the Luhansk People's Republic were banned by YouTube.

Same with the channels by the Ministry of Information and the People's Militia of Donetsk.

This is called "freedom of the press".

Still waiting for Russia to push for an international alternative to Youtube

auslander wrote:

Is war coming? I have lived in Sevastopol since 2006, through two wars and one revolution (one particularly nasty war ongoing in Novorossiya) and, while I say nothing that would in the least violate OpSec, I will say war is a gnat's eyelash from commencing. Neither Rossiya nor VVP and his team want war but if war is forced on them/us so be it. EU as it is known today will cease to exist and США will also continue in the long downward spiral she is in now. Pity, what could have been, what should have been and what will not be. США will also cease to exist and devolve in to chaos, violence and virtually a civil war, a tragedy that will go down in history for all time and God help the innocents trapped in that horror show.

Auslander

miketheterrible wrote:I'm certain Russia is sending weapons to the forces in DNR and LNR anyway.

But Russia needs to collect all this open news and evidence of said weapons and use it against the west and to its own people and say "see, this is what we are talking about".

Isos wrote:

JohninMK wrote:The clearout is continuing.

Spriter
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Polish Prime Minister Matthias Murawski said on Friday that Poland would start sending weapons to Ukraine next week, adding that the weapons would include tens of thousands of artillery shells, as well as mortars and grenade launchers.

Lol. Ukrainian artillery won't survive more than 2 hours. Su-25 will chase it all day long. Ukrainians will go as far as possible from big hardware because that will be targeted from the air, they won't even heard the bomb coming.

Russia will seize more hardware than it will spend. They will have to thank NATO for all of that. Javelin will be funny to use against NATO tanks.

Russia can't keep its forces around ukraine indefinitly. They moved to many things weakening the other borders.

But they are not as stupid as you think. Thry know if russia attacks them they will loose in 2 days. So they will never attack Donbas.

That was followed and plenty of pictures and video show their troop mouvement there. That's not really secret. They have moved tons of mterials and now will move soldiers to man them.

Whatever will happen to the E.U. It deserves the consequences of its hubris.

I'm certain Russia is sending weapons to the forces in DNR and LNR anyway.

Russia will seize more hardware than it will spend. They will have to thank NATO for all of that. Javelin will be funny to use against NATO tanks.

I don't think anyone will listen, the best thing is to start blowing up Ukie weapons depots.

Isos wrote:Lol. Ukrainian artillery won't survive more than 2 hours. Su-25 will chase it all day long. Ukrainians will go as far as possible from big hardware because that will be targeted from the air, they won't even heard the bomb coming.

RTN wrote:

Isos wrote:Lol. Ukrainian artillery won't survive more than 2 hours. Su-25 will chase it all day long. Ukrainians will go as far as possible from big hardware because that will be targeted from the air, they won't even heard the bomb coming.  

Says who. F-35s will team up with PAC-3, THAAD to shoot down any Russian cruise missile fired at Ukranian target by using a combination of TPS-80, MPQ-54 radars and the sensors aboard the F-35. NATO can carry out this operation without even entering Ukranian airspace.

ATLASCUB wrote:I like when Russian military nonsense commentary gets balanced out by NATO military nonsense commentary. Both equally as idiotic, the perfect language that gets the chicken pen active. Quack! Quack!

"Launch some Kinzhals across the border, done deal in 24 hrs. Ukraine is toast! Russia doesn't have to do a thing!"

"Fly some F-35s, get a destroyer with some SM-6's close... done deal"

This is going to be a complete shitshow. Griftersphere readying the knives. Never let a good crisis go to waste. "My friends I/we need your help!"  

auslander wrote:
So here's me and VCO (Victor Charlie Oscar, aka Vertically Challenged One, my wife is, for those who don't understand metric, 4'10" and 95  pounds of ornery Russian Lady who doesn't take prisoners, eyes on verification...and she's a crack shot at distances I can't even see anymore) having a long and leisurely dinner over some to die for Massandrah Roseveh and discussing everything and anything. She uses different sources of information than I use so we hash over everything at the noon and evening meal and come up with a synopsis of who is doing what, with which and to whom.

SehSha (США) is in deep kaka. SehSha can scream and shout all she wants, she has been totally outmaneuvered by VVP, Lavrov, Shoigu....and Katai. It will go down in history as one of the greatest blunders of all time when SehSha drove Mat Rossiya and Katai together and then, wonder of all wonders, decided to start sanctions against Katai (!) to 'prevent' any circumnavigation of Rossiya around the constant and ever increasing sanctions imposed on Mat Rossiya. One would question the sanity of SehSha, it just don't make any sense.

Is war coming? I have lived in Sevastopol since 2006, through two wars and one revolution (one particularly nasty war ongoing in Novorossiya) and, while I say nothing that would in the least violate OpSec, I will say war is a gnat's eyelash from commencing. Neither Rossiya nor VVP and his team want war but if war is forced on them/us so be it. EU as it is known today will cease to exist and США will also continue in the long downward spiral she is in now. Pity, what could have been, what should have been and what will not be. США will also cease to exist and devolve in to chaos, violence and virtually a civil war, a tragedy that will go down in history for all time and God help the innocents trapped in that horror show.

Auslander

RTN wrote:

Isos wrote:Lol. Ukrainian artillery won't survive more than 2 hours. Su-25 will chase it all day long. Ukrainians will go as far as possible from big hardware because that will be targeted from the air, they won't even heard the bomb coming.  

Says who. F-35s will team up with PAC-3, THAAD to shoot down any Russian cruise missile fired at Ukranian target by using a combination of TPS-80, MPQ-54 radars and the sensors aboard the F-35. NATO can carry out this operation without even entering Ukranian airspace.

Hole wrote:

RTN wrote:

Isos wrote:Lol. Ukrainian artillery won't survive more than 2 hours. Su-25 will chase it all day long. Ukrainians will go as far as possible from big hardware because that will be targeted from the air, they won't even heard the bomb coming.  

Says who. F-35s will team up with PAC-3, THAAD to shoot down any Russian cruise missile fired at Ukranian target by using a combination of TPS-80, MPQ-54 radars and the sensors aboard the F-35. NATO can carry out this operation without even entering Ukranian airspace.

THAAD can´t hit low flying targets. Yemen has shown that PAC-3 is a joke. F-35 would be shot down immediately.