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Russian special military operation in Ukraine #5
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #5
magnumcromagnon Mon Mar 07, 2022 5:18 am
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1st combat use
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The only thing this conflict has shown is that Russia shouldn't have waited this long.
Just imagine this cancer continuing to spread and digging in for years to come.
What's kinda funny are the people who, witnessing all this, still say this wasn't a wise choice. Well, it certainly wasn't wise to wait this long, giving your enemy 8 years to prepare, just as it wasn't wise to not intervene in 2014, just as it wasn't wise to not prevent 2014 - preventive care being the best care. But you can damn bet that doing nothing and allowing this to linger even longer is the worst option of all. If you can't still see this, your brain is truly fucked and no one should give your opinions the light of day.
Just imagine this cancer continuing to spread and digging in for years to come.
What's kinda funny are the people who, witnessing all this, still say this wasn't a wise choice. Well, it certainly wasn't wise to wait this long, giving your enemy 8 years to prepare, just as it wasn't wise to not intervene in 2014, just as it wasn't wise to not prevent 2014 - preventive care being the best care. But you can damn bet that doing nothing and allowing this to linger even longer is the worst option of all. If you can't still see this, your brain is truly fucked and no one should give your opinions the light of day.
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ATLASCUB wrote:The only thing this conflict has shown is that Russia shouldn't have waited this long.
Just imagine this cancer continuing to spread and digging in for years to come.
What's kinda funny are the people who, witnessing all this, still say this wasn't a wise choice. Well, it certainly wasn't wise to wait this long, just as it wasn't wise to not intervene in 2014, just as it wasn't wise to not prevent 2014 - preventive care being the best care. But you can damn bet that doing nothing and allowing this to linger even longer is the worst option of all. If you can't still see this, your brain is truly fucked and no one should give your opinions the light of day.
Since when are you rocking a Z on your avatar
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Since Day 2 I believe.
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ATLASCUB wrote:Since Day 2 I believe.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #5
miketheterrible Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:06 am
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To avoid very young recruits, Russia must employ Syrian soldiers (well equipped), who are also grateful to Russia. The Syrians are well experienced and loyal.
A few years ago, a lot of Syrians joined the DNR and LNR forces so I believe already quite a few of then are already there.
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Unironically correct.
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ATLASCUB wrote:The only thing this conflict has shown is that Russia shouldn't have waited this long.
Just imagine this cancer continuing to spread and digging in for years to come.
What's kinda funny are the people who, witnessing all this, still say this wasn't a wise choice. Well, it certainly wasn't wise to wait this long, giving your enemy 8 years to prepare, just as it wasn't wise to not intervene in 2014, just as it wasn't wise to not prevent 2014 - preventive care being the best care. But you can damn bet that doing nothing and allowing this to linger even longer is the worst option of all. If you can't still see this, your brain is truly fucked and no one should give your opinions the light of day.
if russia intervene in 2014 and invade kiev and all ukraine will have been worse , in many ways.
1)the total world sanctions will have started in 2014 and not in 2022 , allowing russia to better prepare
for a major potential world war.
2)the civil unrest will have been far worse ,because cvilians believed in 2014 that europe was the solution to their problems and a new government will fix it.. Now civilians hate their kiev government.
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The U.S wasn't anywhere near ready for that type of aggressiveness in 2014, it takes a lot of time to coordinate all of this, get allied buy in etc.... the regime wasn't as infested with rats and foreign assets, much less had a foothold in every decision making body in Ukraine, the cancer wasn't anything less than a small tiny lump that required cauterization right then and there against their feeble attempts to gain power and legitimacy. Russia had an immense amount of assets and cards to work with then, which obviously, throughout the years dwindled as the new regime made inroads and settled by taking them out. The coup was simply the first step in a much larger plan. You stop the game at the first step and you save yourself considerable trouble both in magnitude and recurrence. Instead of meeting a strong hand, it met a weak hand. The rest is history.
It did not happen and so you have this.
Stop talking BS. Nobody cares about attempts to bend narratives to form some type of cohesion in your own head about the flow of events. That goes for all the dimwits here who know damn well their stupidity, and by now figured out their IQ level - to their own shock.
It did not happen and so you have this.
Stop talking BS. Nobody cares about attempts to bend narratives to form some type of cohesion in your own head about the flow of events. That goes for all the dimwits here who know damn well their stupidity, and by now figured out their IQ level - to their own shock.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #5
OminousSpudd Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:47 am
Nice SEAD loadout on these badboys. Successful sortie by the looks of the missing Kh-31s. Nice to see so many R-77s.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #5
Stealthflanker Mon Mar 07, 2022 7:58 am
Stepping up the game of Information
https://twitter.com/ImageSatIntl/status/1500557275941019650
Russians move more A-50U to baranovichi. 3 AEW means more coverage or more real time intel.
https://twitter.com/ImageSatIntl/status/1500557275941019650
Russians move more A-50U to baranovichi. 3 AEW means more coverage or more real time intel.
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Stealthflanker wrote:Stepping up the game of Information
https://twitter.com/ImageSatIntl/status/1500557275941019650
Russians move more A-50U to baranovichi. 3 AEW means more coverage or more real time intel.
It is also an indication that the scope of the operation is about to expand quite dramatically.
I do hope that they can get a huge number of civilians out of the cities today.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #5
sundoesntrise Mon Mar 07, 2022 8:42 am
Strelkov. 12th day of the WAR
There is less and less reliable information from the fronts. Accordingly, there are not enough materials for summaries either.
Briefly (from north to south):
Kyiv front - fierce battles continued in the area of \u200b\u200bthe city of Bucha and in the city itself (a suburb of Kyiv). The results are not known. Most likely, the Russian troops have achieved local successes, but so far no more.
Central Front (Chernigov-Kharkov):
On the right flank - nothing intelligible. On the left - fighting continued in the Kharkov area and north of Izyum. To all appearances, the RF Armed Forces have not yet achieved decisive successes here either, although they continue to conduct offensive operations.
Donetsk front.
No significant changes. Yesterday, fighting continued all day in the Volnovakha region and in the city itself, as well as to the northwest
Southern front.
The right flank - there were no new reports of advance in the Gulyai-Polye area and in the direction of Zaporizhzhia yesterday.
The central part (direction to Krivoy Rog) is similar.
Left flank - tactical defeat of the RF Armed Forces near the city of Voskresensk and withdrawal from the southern part of the city and the adjacent area as a result of a strong counterattack by an enemy strike group deployed from the north. Apparently, several divisions were broken. And (presumably - based on an analysis of the videos posted by the enemy) - for the most part - as a result of our complete lack of fuel divisions. Losses in manpower, probably, are small, in technology, they are rather painful not by the real number of losses, but by the way enemy propaganda presents it
General conclusion:
As noted in previous reports, an acute shortage of front-line units and subunits did not allow the development of initial operational successes and led first to a "slip" of further progress, and now to its actual attenuation. My yesterday's assessment of "an inflated bubble" on the left flank of the Southern Front came true faster than I could have imagined, and in the most unpleasant way.
Apparently - today, during completely senseless and obviously equally fruitless negotiations - the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and the LDNR will carry out the necessary regroupings.
However, the enemy will certainly take advantage of the pause and the "silence mode" for such actions on his part. However, the fighting in the main sectors, I am sure, will continue without any "amendments to the negotiations
In the event that the military-political leadership of the Russian Federation does not continue to draw obvious conclusions regarding the need to multiply the strengthening of our group fighting in Ukraine, I believe the urgent task of completely defeating the Armed Forces of Ukraine and liberating Novorossia and Little Russia from the Nazis is impossible (with available forces).
There is less and less reliable information from the fronts. Accordingly, there are not enough materials for summaries either.
Briefly (from north to south):
Kyiv front - fierce battles continued in the area of \u200b\u200bthe city of Bucha and in the city itself (a suburb of Kyiv). The results are not known. Most likely, the Russian troops have achieved local successes, but so far no more.
Central Front (Chernigov-Kharkov):
On the right flank - nothing intelligible. On the left - fighting continued in the Kharkov area and north of Izyum. To all appearances, the RF Armed Forces have not yet achieved decisive successes here either, although they continue to conduct offensive operations.
Donetsk front.
No significant changes. Yesterday, fighting continued all day in the Volnovakha region and in the city itself, as well as to the northwest
Southern front.
The right flank - there were no new reports of advance in the Gulyai-Polye area and in the direction of Zaporizhzhia yesterday.
The central part (direction to Krivoy Rog) is similar.
Left flank - tactical defeat of the RF Armed Forces near the city of Voskresensk and withdrawal from the southern part of the city and the adjacent area as a result of a strong counterattack by an enemy strike group deployed from the north. Apparently, several divisions were broken. And (presumably - based on an analysis of the videos posted by the enemy) - for the most part - as a result of our complete lack of fuel divisions. Losses in manpower, probably, are small, in technology, they are rather painful not by the real number of losses, but by the way enemy propaganda presents it
General conclusion:
As noted in previous reports, an acute shortage of front-line units and subunits did not allow the development of initial operational successes and led first to a "slip" of further progress, and now to its actual attenuation. My yesterday's assessment of "an inflated bubble" on the left flank of the Southern Front came true faster than I could have imagined, and in the most unpleasant way.
Apparently - today, during completely senseless and obviously equally fruitless negotiations - the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and the LDNR will carry out the necessary regroupings.
However, the enemy will certainly take advantage of the pause and the "silence mode" for such actions on his part. However, the fighting in the main sectors, I am sure, will continue without any "amendments to the negotiations
In the event that the military-political leadership of the Russian Federation does not continue to draw obvious conclusions regarding the need to multiply the strengthening of our group fighting in Ukraine, I believe the urgent task of completely defeating the Armed Forces of Ukraine and liberating Novorossia and Little Russia from the Nazis is impossible (with available forces).
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Facebook seems to have added this never before have I seen this on RT
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d_taddei2 wrote:Facebook seems to have added this never before have I seen this on RT
I think you refer to this story?
https://www.rt.com/russia/551363-ukraine-negotiator-death/
Kiev has said that Denis Kireev, a secret agent on a mission from Ukraine’s Defense Ministry, has died. Earlier reports claimed that a man with the same name was killed by Ukrainian secret services as a suspected traitor.
Ukraine’s Chief Directorate of Intelligence said on Saturday that Kireev was among three agents killed in the line of duty. “They have died, protecting Ukraine,” the military intelligence agency wrote on social media, without elaborating.
News of Kireev’s death has caused some confusion after Ukrainian media initially reported that the country’s own domestic security service, the SBU, strongly believed Kireev was a spy and had killed him during an apparent arrest attempt.
Ukrayinska Pravda newspaper quoted sources as saying that SBU agents had “clear” evidence of high treason and had tapped Kireev’s phone. However, other reports claimed that the SBU was not involved in the man’s death, and that someone wanted to frame the agency. The SBU has not commented on the matter.
Kireev was reportedly a member of Ukraine’s negotiation team during peace talks with Russia in Belarus on Monday. Although he was not on the official list of negotiators released by Kiev, Ukrainian media claimed that he was photographed sitting alongside other negotiators at the table with the Russians.
Kireev was described as a former financier and private equity fund manager, who in the past held a high-level position at the State Savings Bank of Ukraine.
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lyle6 wrote:
Unironically correct.
I think it's inbreeding among the so-called "elite". >>
Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we. - George W. Bush senior.
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Mir wrote:
I think it's inbreeding among the so-called "elite". >>
Not that kind of Freudian.
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I guess we now know what the UK's $100mn donation to Ukraine is getting spent on (see point 2) although I highly doubt that the salary will be as high as that pure fantasy
Ukraine hasn't got $1.2bn to spend per month on Merc salaries. Also I highly doubt that would go down well with the rest of the armed forces are on roughly $500 per month, I even doubt zelenskys pledge of paying Ukrainian soldiers $3400 per month. And I certainly would think civilians taking up arms as volunteers getting paid nothing other than food in their bellies would be furious to find a Merc on 60k a month. It's total BS. Once those mercenaries get to Ukraine majority who have zero experience other than call of duty or so e other PC game will soon be sh*tting themselves and will either go back home with tails between their legs or in a body bag. It's a clear sign that Ukraine is desperate and losing as well as a complete disregard of foreign countries for its own citizens lives.
Updates
1)European Gas Figures Hit Historic Maximum at $2,700 Per 1,000 Cubic Metres
2) Nearly 20,000 foreign mercenaries are looking to fight alongside the rapidly-diminishing ranks of Ukraine’s crippled military, according to Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba. On Sunday, the Ukrainian regime announced the opening of a website for mercenaries hoping to “help Ukraine,” the latest move in a growing campaign to turn to foreign fighters for what they frame as the ‘defense of the motherland.’
It’s unclear how many, if any, of the hired guns have entered the country, but on Friday Russia’s Foriegn Intelligence Service warned in a statement that “the US and UK intelligence services in recent weeks have de facto turned Polish territory into a 'logistical hub' used to supply weapons and smuggle fighters”-- including Daesh* terrorists from Syria reportedly trained at the Al-Tanf military base. A number of foreign fighters jumped at the chance to help cobble together the so-called “International Legion” of mercenaries that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has called for, with recruits from the US, Canada, and Japan apparently jumping at the chance to fight for what some outlets have said is a $60,000/month check.
3) Black Smoke Billow Over Lugansk as Ukrainian Nationalists Fire Tochka-U Missile at Oil Depot
4) In less than a week, the United States and NATO have pushed more than 17,000 antitank weapons, including Javelin missiles, over the borders of Poland and Romania,"
Ukraine hasn't got $1.2bn to spend per month on Merc salaries. Also I highly doubt that would go down well with the rest of the armed forces are on roughly $500 per month, I even doubt zelenskys pledge of paying Ukrainian soldiers $3400 per month. And I certainly would think civilians taking up arms as volunteers getting paid nothing other than food in their bellies would be furious to find a Merc on 60k a month. It's total BS. Once those mercenaries get to Ukraine majority who have zero experience other than call of duty or so e other PC game will soon be sh*tting themselves and will either go back home with tails between their legs or in a body bag. It's a clear sign that Ukraine is desperate and losing as well as a complete disregard of foreign countries for its own citizens lives.
Updates
1)European Gas Figures Hit Historic Maximum at $2,700 Per 1,000 Cubic Metres
2) Nearly 20,000 foreign mercenaries are looking to fight alongside the rapidly-diminishing ranks of Ukraine’s crippled military, according to Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba. On Sunday, the Ukrainian regime announced the opening of a website for mercenaries hoping to “help Ukraine,” the latest move in a growing campaign to turn to foreign fighters for what they frame as the ‘defense of the motherland.’
It’s unclear how many, if any, of the hired guns have entered the country, but on Friday Russia’s Foriegn Intelligence Service warned in a statement that “the US and UK intelligence services in recent weeks have de facto turned Polish territory into a 'logistical hub' used to supply weapons and smuggle fighters”-- including Daesh* terrorists from Syria reportedly trained at the Al-Tanf military base. A number of foreign fighters jumped at the chance to help cobble together the so-called “International Legion” of mercenaries that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has called for, with recruits from the US, Canada, and Japan apparently jumping at the chance to fight for what some outlets have said is a $60,000/month check.
3) Black Smoke Billow Over Lugansk as Ukrainian Nationalists Fire Tochka-U Missile at Oil Depot
4) In less than a week, the United States and NATO have pushed more than 17,000 antitank weapons, including Javelin missiles, over the borders of Poland and Romania,"
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Rather surprised by the number of successful hits on Russian tanks, AFVs by N-LAWS and to a lesser extent Javelin. I was of the opinion that Russian armoured vehicles will have countermeasures in place to neutralize N-LAWS. But that doesn't seem to be the case.
Haven't seen any Russian MBT with an APS either.
Haven't seen any Russian MBT with an APS either.
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Mir wrote:d_taddei2 wrote:Facebook seems to have added this never before have I seen this on RT
I think you refer to this story?
https://www.rt.com/russia/551363-ukraine-negotiator-death/
Kiev has said that Denis Kireev, a secret agent on a mission from Ukraine’s Defense Ministry, has died. Earlier reports claimed that a man with the same name was killed by Ukrainian secret services as a suspected traitor.
Ukraine’s Chief Directorate of Intelligence said on Saturday that Kireev was among three agents killed in the line of duty. “They have died, protecting Ukraine,” the military intelligence agency wrote on social media, without elaborating.
News of Kireev’s death has caused some confusion after Ukrainian media initially reported that the country’s own domestic security service, the SBU, strongly believed Kireev was a spy and had killed him during an apparent arrest attempt.
Ukrayinska Pravda newspaper quoted sources as saying that SBU agents had “clear” evidence of high treason and had tapped Kireev’s phone. However, other reports claimed that the SBU was not involved in the man’s death, and that someone wanted to frame the agency. The SBU has not commented on the matter.
Kireev was reportedly a member of Ukraine’s negotiation team during peace talks with Russia in Belarus on Monday. Although he was not on the official list of negotiators released by Kiev, Ukrainian media claimed that he was photographed sitting alongside other negotiators at the table with the Russians.
Kireev was described as a former financier and private equity fund manager, who in the past held a high-level position at the State Savings Bank of Ukraine.
Nope on any link I click on in FB for RT the link in question was a female reporter in Lugansk on the streets. It happens on every RT link.
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Sujoy wrote:Rather surprised by the number of successful hits on Russian tanks, AFVs by N-LAWS and to a lesser extent Javelin. I was of the opinion that Russian armoured vehicles will have countermeasures in place to neutralize N-LAWS. But that doesn't seem to be the case.
Haven't seen any Russian MBT with an APS either.
Can I ask you how do you know what tank was destroyed by what system? It's not like they take pictures of entry points and etc. So far video evidence shows Ukraine still using RPG-26, Shershen, Corsair, Rpg-7 against Russian tanks. NLAWs could be seen too, but not in action.
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Airbornewolf Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:43 am
d_taddei2 wrote:2) Nearly 20,000 foreign mercenaries are looking to fight alongside the rapidly-diminishing ranks of Ukraine’s crippled military, according to Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba. On Sunday, the Ukrainian regime announced the opening of a website for mercenaries hoping to “help Ukraine,” the latest move in a growing campaign to turn to foreign fighters for what they frame as the ‘defense of the motherland.’
It’s unclear how many, if any, of the hired guns have entered the country, but on Friday Russia’s Foriegn Intelligence Service warned in a statement that “the US and UK intelligence services in recent weeks have de facto turned Polish territory into a 'logistical hub' used to supply weapons and smuggle fighters”-- including Daesh* terrorists from Syria reportedly trained at the Al-Tanf military base. A number of foreign fighters jumped at the chance to help cobble together the so-called “International Legion” of mercenaries that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has called for, with recruits from the US, Canada, and Japan apparently jumping at the chance to fight for what some outlets have said is a $60,000/month check.
The actual mercs aside, witch i question if they actually will want to go toe-to-toe with an actual millitary force that has initiative and is on the offense.
The rest of these "Mercs" are just cannon fodder. Saw a vid pass by where this "Volkssturm" makes an "valiant" defense.
First one gets mowed down by MG fire. And the rest of the yellow-armband volkssturm watch in shock for a few seconds to their buddy going down before they get some high-velocity pieces of "reality check" flying their way and they disperse screaming.
I really did not know what they expected?. for their buddy to get back in the game in the respawn area?.
Lying down waiting for an medpack?. instead of being turned in an bloody hamburger?.
Not quite Call of Duty is it?.
Its better to get out of the way of an Army that sees your face as an swastika trough their optics, as soon they spot that yellow armband and an rifle.
But hey,...poor life choices.
And the paycheck...
you got to get out alive to collect that one. good luck 
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d_taddei2 wrote:
Nope on any link I click on in FB for RT the link in question was a female reporter in Lugansk on the streets. It happens on every RT link.
I don't know if the fact that Russia kicked FB out would have any effect? I'm not on FB so can't really say
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