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Russian special military operation in Ukraine #9
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #9
Airbornewolf Sat Apr 02, 2022 9:26 pm
Force Z Tank shelling Nazi's in Mariupol to Hell.
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Podlodka77 wrote:I just want to write to those who fart about Russia's special military operation that Russia is fighting in difficult conditions.
1. New quantities of weapons are constantly being supplied to Ukraine. The United States did not have that problem in Iraq, Serbia, Libya, Syria ...
2. During a special military operation, Russia is trying to make fewer civilians victims of the war. The United States has never paid attention to this, because all civilian victims are just "collateral damage" for them.
3. The NATO pact is constantly providing intelligence to Ukropistan, which further complicates Russia's progress. The United States did not have these problems during its aggressive invasions.
4. Fascist Western propaganda also asks Russian athletes to condemn Putin, which was not the case even during Nazi Germany. The United States did not have any problems with this issue during the aggressive invasions.
5. If, according to some, Russia is already weak, even though Russia REALLY does not have enough troops to occupy Ukraine, then why is the NATO Pact not reacting?
6. I am completely sure that the Russians have enough capacity to destroy all Swedish, Finnish, Polish or German airports with conventional weapons. And then what ? What is the condition of the Swedish, German or Finnish army? Realistically, the Poles have a stronger land army than almost all three countries combined.
7. Yes, many Russian tanks were destroyed, the Orcs lost probably more, so the "famous" Leopards, Abrams, Le Clerc tanks would be just as damaged and destroyed as the aforementioned tanks.
8. I am fed up with the fact that the Russians have or do not have the ability to do this or that. IF MOBILIZATION WAS NOT BEING CARRIED OUT IN RUSSIA, DO YOU THINK YOU KNOW BETTER THAN THE RUSSIANS WHAT THEIR GOAL IS?
Good points but the thing is, the trolls won't read them.
They will just churn out their nonsense and it is better just to ignore them.
Russia has lost troops and equipment, there has been some things that did not go the Russian way, there has mistreatment of Russian POW's, there has Russian equipment that has been captured but the overall war is going Russia's way.
Right now, the focus should be on clearing out the Donbass, this is happening right now. There will be cease fires because of negotiations, there will be Russian casualties, there will be Russian equipment destroyed and not everything will go Russia's way but in war it never does. But Donbass will be cleared out.
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FP, you're screwing up again ..
The opposite is happening and the Ukrainians are NOT PROGRESSING towards Kherson, but it is expected that the Russians will attack Nikolayev in the near future.
The opposite is happening and the Ukrainians are NOT PROGRESSING towards Kherson, but it is expected that the Russians will attack Nikolayev in the near future.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #9
flamming_python Sat Apr 02, 2022 9:37 pm
Biggest battle coming up on the Donbass encirclement. This will decide the war
There is also the offensive towards Nikolayev, possible further to Pridnestrovie and Odessa. Ukrainian advances have been beaten off, and the advance may start shortly. But it may also be a feint, to tie down troops. Which might make more sense to save lives, as the Donbass is the main front anyway.
There is also the offensive towards Nikolayev, possible further to Pridnestrovie and Odessa. Ukrainian advances have been beaten off, and the advance may start shortly. But it may also be a feint, to tie down troops. Which might make more sense to save lives, as the Donbass is the main front anyway.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #9
flamming_python Sat Apr 02, 2022 9:38 pm
Podlodka77 wrote:FP, you're screwing up again ..
The opposite is happening and the Ukrainians are NOT PROGRESSING towards Kherson, but it is expected that the Russians will attack Nikolayev in the near future.
I got it from this channel, it's a local in Kherson, and he simply said that the shelling has come closer over the last 2 days
It was an attempt at a Ukrainian advance. Now beaten back apparently
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #9
flamming_python Sat Apr 02, 2022 9:39 pm
Vid of the fighting in Mariupol. DNR forces
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Just to recap, for the last time.
Before the war "Ukraine" had the 3rd largest army in NATO (sort of), with more tanks and armored vehicles then most of the other european NATO armies combined, same for artillery, plus the 3rd largest mobile AD network in the world (behing Russia and China). At least 75% of this was destroyed. Plus their air force (except a handful of planes and helis, propably hidden in some civilian area) and Navy, except a few tugboats.
The are around Kiev was taken in the first days of the war, as most of the "ukrainian" stuff was still intact. We all remember the air assault, with a lot of AD systems around Kiev back then. Why does someone with more then 3 or 4 functioning brain cells believe that the light infantry, to what the "ukrainian" army was degraded in the past weeks, with only a handul of tanks and artillery systems and mostly short range AD systems left, without any air support, could force the superior russian forces to withdraw?
If the russian MoD decides to suround Kiev and kill a few thousand Nazi collaborators, they will do it. Because the "defenders" are now much weaker then a few weeks ago. Fact.
I told some members here weeks ago as they were moaning about some damaged tank or burned out truck, that this is tactical or eben sub-tactical level stuff. This may look "good" on Twitter or some other MSMS but it doesn´t effect the war.
Before the war "Ukraine" had the 3rd largest army in NATO (sort of), with more tanks and armored vehicles then most of the other european NATO armies combined, same for artillery, plus the 3rd largest mobile AD network in the world (behing Russia and China). At least 75% of this was destroyed. Plus their air force (except a handful of planes and helis, propably hidden in some civilian area) and Navy, except a few tugboats.
The are around Kiev was taken in the first days of the war, as most of the "ukrainian" stuff was still intact. We all remember the air assault, with a lot of AD systems around Kiev back then. Why does someone with more then 3 or 4 functioning brain cells believe that the light infantry, to what the "ukrainian" army was degraded in the past weeks, with only a handul of tanks and artillery systems and mostly short range AD systems left, without any air support, could force the superior russian forces to withdraw?
If the russian MoD decides to suround Kiev and kill a few thousand Nazi collaborators, they will do it. Because the "defenders" are now much weaker then a few weeks ago. Fact.
I told some members here weeks ago as they were moaning about some damaged tank or burned out truck, that this is tactical or eben sub-tactical level stuff. This may look "good" on Twitter or some other MSMS but it doesn´t effect the war.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #9
flamming_python Sat Apr 02, 2022 9:50 pm
Hole wrote:Just to recap, for the last time.
Before the war "Ukraine" had the 3rd largest army in NATO (sort of), with more tanks and armored vehicles then most of the other european NATO armies combined, same for artillery, plus the 3rd largest mobile AD network in the world (behing Russia and China). At least 75% of this was destroyed. Plus their air force (except a handful of planes and helis, propably hidden in some civilian area) and Navy, except a few tugboats.
The are around Kiev was taken in the first days of the war, as most of the "ukrainian" stuff was still intact. We all remember the air assault, with a lot of AD systems around Kiev back then. Why does someone with more then 3 or 4 functioning brain cells believe that the light infantry, to what the "ukrainian" army was degraded in the past weeks, with only a handul of tanks and artillery systems and mostly short range AD systems left, without any air support, could force the superior russian forces to withdraw?
If the russian MoD decides to suround Kiev and kill a few thousand Nazi collaborators, they will do it. Because the "defenders" are now much weaker then a few weeks ago. Fact.
I told some members here weeks ago as they were moaning about some damaged tank or burned out truck, that this is tactical or eben sub-tactical level stuff. This may look "good" on Twitter or some other MSMS but it doesn´t effect the war.
There were 5 brigades around Odessa at the beginning of the war. And they hadn't been moved, due to the threat of a Russian amphibious assault. Now it seems they pulled up some of those forces to Nikolayev. They are for the most part very much intact, and with tank forces, artillery and so on - Odessa has had scarcely any cruise missile strikes during the war.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #9
Airbornewolf Sat Apr 02, 2022 9:55 pm
Fresh Sardaukar heading for Ukraine:
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flamming_python wrote:This will decide the war
This war is decided already.
The only thing in question now is how Russkies will proceed.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #9
Podlodka77 Sat Apr 02, 2022 10:02 pm
Ukraine "wins"; almost 5 million refugees, completely destroyed the supply of the whole country (fuel, food, road infrastructure that was already desperate), but Ukraine WINS .. 
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And how will Ukraine, let someone write to me, do this year's harvest ? Did the Russians count on this when they separated access to Ukraine from the sea? I think they are. Yes, there is a lot of hatred towards Russia on the part of most Ukrainians, but when this goes a little further, I think that Ukrainians will fight among themselves.
I once wrote earlier that if the West wished Ukraine well, the West would have invested money in Ukraine in the last 30 years - which was not the case. But well, they give them a weapon with which they will die and eventually lose.
And we Serbs like to talk about how we destroyed the F-117 and? It is a small consolation because we are really hard and economically destroyed in that war. All bridges in Novi Sad have been destroyed and the ruins of the General Staff in Belgrade still stand today.
And will Russia lose 500 tanks and 50 helicopters, who cares? Does Russia independently produce helicopters and tanks? I don't see a problem. Ukraine is already trampled more than Serbia, and SEVERAL times more, regardless of how many times that country is bigger than Serbia.
. And how will Ukraine, let someone write to me, do this year's harvest ? Did the Russians count on this when they separated access to Ukraine from the sea? I think they are. Yes, there is a lot of hatred towards Russia on the part of most Ukrainians, but when this goes a little further, I think that Ukrainians will fight among themselves.
I once wrote earlier that if the West wished Ukraine well, the West would have invested money in Ukraine in the last 30 years - which was not the case. But well, they give them a weapon with which they will die and eventually lose.
And we Serbs like to talk about how we destroyed the F-117 and? It is a small consolation because we are really hard and economically destroyed in that war. All bridges in Novi Sad have been destroyed and the ruins of the General Staff in Belgrade still stand today.
And will Russia lose 500 tanks and 50 helicopters, who cares? Does Russia independently produce helicopters and tanks? I don't see a problem. Ukraine is already trampled more than Serbia, and SEVERAL times more, regardless of how many times that country is bigger than Serbia.
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"Trophies from the combat operation: NATO weapons and Stugna anti-tank systems were captured
In the battles in Ukraine, the Russian military seized small arms from NATO countries, grenade launchers and Stugna anti-tank systems.
In the photo, a British-Swedish AT-4 grenade launcher, a Ukrainian-American WAC47 assault rifle, a broken frame from an anti-tank complex, and revolvers."
https://t.me/boris_rozhin/39030?single
In the battles in Ukraine, the Russian military seized small arms from NATO countries, grenade launchers and Stugna anti-tank systems.
In the photo, a British-Swedish AT-4 grenade launcher, a Ukrainian-American WAC47 assault rifle, a broken frame from an anti-tank complex, and revolvers."
https://t.me/boris_rozhin/39030?single
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Hole wrote:plus the 3rd largest mobile AD network in the world (behing Russia and China).
That is arguable because we have Iran out there.
But the truth is, that they had the strongest AD in all of Europe.
I am terrified of how smooth the Russkies took that out.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #9
flamming_python Sat Apr 02, 2022 10:04 pm
ALAMO wrote:flamming_python wrote:This will decide the war
This war is decided already.
The only thing in question now is how Russkies will proceed.
I mean rather, it will decide the war immediately, as even the insane propaganda machine in the Ukraine will not be able to cover up such a catastrophe as the encirclement of 70,000 troops or more.
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Two extremes play against each other in a bad faith loop here all the time.
Every single individual here has their own picture of what success is or means for this operation.... even the biggest of dimwits who are simply drones following thought leaders (majority here).
Successful regime change is mine. Anything short of that is kicking the can, and potential problems (which will appear and manifest themselves) down the road. Short of that, flipping the Kiev regime with political forces after a successful land grab of most of Eastern, South, and Central Ukraine, de facto dissolving the Ukranian state as we know it, with pro-Russian political forces taking control of what's left of "neutral" "Ukraine" but I'm not holding out on that one... Russia has failed at every turn in doing this. Even with a degradation of their power, the Kiev dogs show firm command of the political levers of power, and when threatened in this arena, maneuver and take obstacles out successfully, even if brutally. The operation is not done so even the improbable still has a percentage chance of happing, however low.
Every single individual here has their own picture of what success is or means for this operation.... even the biggest of dimwits who are simply drones following thought leaders (majority here).
Successful regime change is mine. Anything short of that is kicking the can, and potential problems (which will appear and manifest themselves) down the road. Short of that, flipping the Kiev regime with political forces after a successful land grab of most of Eastern, South, and Central Ukraine, de facto dissolving the Ukranian state as we know it, with pro-Russian political forces taking control of what's left of "neutral" "Ukraine" but I'm not holding out on that one... Russia has failed at every turn in doing this. Even with a degradation of their power, the Kiev dogs show firm command of the political levers of power, and when threatened in this arena, maneuver and take obstacles out successfully, even if brutally. The operation is not done so even the improbable still has a percentage chance of happing, however low.
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"Detained in the Leningrad region
"Azov", who, pretending to be a refugee, came to Ivangorod and was going to run away to Estonia.
Yevgeny Pozdnyakov was able to leave Mariupol through a humanitarian corridor organized by the Russian military.
The entire body of the man is covered with tattoos with swastikas and Nazi symbols.
Having studied the phone of the detainee, the security forces found out that Pozdnyakov was a member of the Azov national battalion."
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"Azov", who, pretending to be a refugee, came to Ivangorod and was going to run away to Estonia.
Yevgeny Pozdnyakov was able to leave Mariupol through a humanitarian corridor organized by the Russian military.
The entire body of the man is covered with tattoos with swastikas and Nazi symbols.
Having studied the phone of the detainee, the security forces found out that Pozdnyakov was a member of the Azov national battalion."
https://t.me/boris_rozhin/39046
https://t.me/boris_rozhin/39056?single
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"Thanks guys! We were waiting for you!"
It is with these words that the inhabitants of Kherson greet the Russian military, who brought food and medicine so much needed here.
It should be noted that in addition to bread, cereals, sugar and canned food, the military is trying to bring both baby food and sweets.
Many citizens are running out of livelihoods and the help delivered to the city by the National Guard is very important to them."
https://t.me/boris_rozhin/39076?single
It is with these words that the inhabitants of Kherson greet the Russian military, who brought food and medicine so much needed here.
It should be noted that in addition to bread, cereals, sugar and canned food, the military is trying to bring both baby food and sweets.
Many citizens are running out of livelihoods and the help delivered to the city by the National Guard is very important to them."
https://t.me/boris_rozhin/39076?single
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Denazification in action.
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flamming_python wrote:
I mean rather, it will decide the war immediately, as even the insane propaganda machine in the Ukraine will not be able to cover up such a catastrophe as the encirclement of 70,000 troops or more.
You are trying to be an optimist here, but hoping you are right - I know that you are wrong
The ukro regime is there to extend the war till the last Ukrainian. That is what was paid for.
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"Accommodation centers for refugees opened in Starobelsk in the LPR: people got out under the bullets and shelling of Ukrainian troops and are now waiting for the liberation of their cities."
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"Chechen special forces, together with units of the RF Armed Forces, began to storm the positions of Ukrainian Nazi formations directly on the territory of the Azovstal enterprise."
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par far wrote:"Chechen special forces, together with units of the RF Armed Forces, began to storm the positions of Ukrainian Nazi formations directly on the territory of the Azovstal enterprise."
https://t.me/intelslava/24208
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A cargo of food aid from the Regional Public Fund named after the Hero of Russia Akhmat-Khadzhi Kadyrov has been delivered to the distressed residents of the city of Mariupol. The constant oppression of nationalist battalions and prolonged hostilities in the territory of this city forced local residents to take refuge in the basements of houses for a long time. Which in turn led to a critical shortage of food and drink."
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A cargo of food aid from the Regional Public Fund named after the Hero of Russia Akhmat-Khadzhi Kadyrov has been delivered to the distressed residents of the city of Mariupol. The constant oppression of nationalist battalions and prolonged hostilities in the territory of this city forced local residents to take refuge in the basements of houses for a long time. Which in turn led to a critical shortage of food and drink."https://t.me/intelslava/24229
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Airbornewolf wrote:par far wrote:"Chechen special forces, together with units of the RF Armed Forces, began to storm the positions of Ukrainian Nazi formations directly on the territory of the Azovstal enterprise."
https://t.me/intelslava/24208
Sorry Airbornewolf.
Any guesses to the sniper rifles being used?
Maybe Orsis T5000?
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