Russian special military operation in Ukraine #17

Regular wrote:

Podlodka77 wrote:T-72 and Leopard 2; A tank that has participated in countless conflicts in the last 30+ years and is the most combat-proven tank of today, AND a tank that has participated (and embarrassed) in a single conflict against goat fuckers.

Leopard 2; Wunderwaffe from Germany, destroyed in considerable numbers in just a few days by a goat fuckers in Syria.

It's all about how you employ tanks. Leopard-2 was employed by goat fuckers to kill goat fuckers.

Leopard 2 tanks would do quite well... in DNR service I don't think that modern MBTs (ok, not modern considering Armata, but the current ones in service) differ that much in effectivness.

Well this is true "Leopard-2 was employed by goat fuckers to kill goat fuckers".  
The essence is that in the West, the F-22 always "destryos in simulations" ten best Russian fighter planes, while the Leopard 2 is worth 4 or 5 of the best Russian tanks. And there is always the same story in the West ...

Isn't the T-90M equal to the best western MBTs BTW?

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Isn't the T-90M equal to the best western MBTs BTW?

It shouldn’t be worse anyway, if it’s not already better.
Western tanks have not taken part in any conflict yet, if they have not already had absolute supremacy in the air in that conflict. Of course, before any operation would begin - the launch of the BGM-109 cruise missiles is underway.

I wouldn't count on western MBTs here.

Training the crew is gonna take several weeks after the machines arrive, by that time the Russians may be at the gates of Kiev again.

Scorpius wrote:https://t.me/voenacher/19903
some Ukrainian soldier is "enjoying" a Russian fire show on the front line.

What is that, thermite or something

Sincerely
Lesley

https://thesaker.is/sitrep-operation-z-consequences-petty-tabaquis-howling/

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:I wouldn't count on western MBTs  here.

Training the crew is gonna take several weeks after the machines arrive, by that time the Russians may be at the gates of Kiev again.

Even with trained crews they would be just like any other ukrainian tank. Protection of tanks is meant to deal with head on attack (and even for that their protection still sucks)... Russia uses atgm and its choppers to hunt tanks. A leopard or a m1a1 won't survive an ataka missile hit on the side or rear.

It would be the same result as when russians hunt ukrainian t-64.

The only tank that would do better than other would be the merkava with its trophy because it has a chance to intercept missiles. I would even field soviet t-55 with the drozd APS that was used in afghanistan instead of t-90.

Too much woody areas there where you can hide atgm teams and destroy any tank.

SITUATION EVOLVING
Units of the 17th tank,58th motorized infantry, 111th and 118th brigades of the territorial defense,the national battalion "Donbass" of the uaf, as well as the 4th, 27th brigades and the 15th NGU regiment will be inside the encirlement soon it looks

https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1/status/1529842753542266881/photo/1

Levi@Levi_godman

According to MIG there are still about 50 Azov playing hide and seek in Azovstal

Earlier reports said that at least 3 were taken without a fight yesterday...

https://twitter.com/Levi_godman/status/1529870252133203972

Scorpius wrote:https://t.me/fighter_bomber/7345

Excerpt from the Ukrainian document (the text is translated into Russian). Judging by this text, the Ukrainian army is getting closer to decomposition and complete loss of combat capability

To be expected as they are outnumbered 7 to 1...

Status-6
@Archer83Able
Ukrainian presidential adviser Arestovych: According to unverified data, we've lost the city of Lyman. The way the Russians captured it shows that there are very talented commanders there, and this shows the increased level of operational control and skills of the Russian army.
https://twitter.com/Archer83Able/status/1529898354263699465

mnztr wrote:

flamming_python wrote:

Early morning fog

The explosion shockwaves ripple through it

Wow I wonder what the lethal blast radius is. TOS is a terrifying weapon, would be nice if the range was longer.  Even TOS 2 is only 7 km? But still terrifying.

New rockets for TOS 1 have 10km range. And I've seen numbers for TOS 2 quoted at 12km.

Mark Sleboda was on Sputnik radio. He's a professor at the Moscow state university.

https://sputniknews.com/20220525/nato-amplifies-arms-deliveries-to-ukraine-as-russia-advances-1095742997.html

He says that this war could go on for years and the only solution is to remove the Zelensky regime in Kiev. I basically agree. This American regime does not care how many Ukranians die. They will try and keep the war going. If Russia takes up to the Dniper river then those civilians will just be the ones being shelled instead of the Donbas ones. Or if it takes up to 1939 borders, then whoever the civilains are in range will be shelled.

The regime has to be removed and it is doable. It does not have to be done now. Get the Donbas done first. But the only long term chance of peace cannot involve this regime.

The economy is holding strong and there's no reason not to do it.

Erk wrote:

VARGR198 wrote:https://twitter.com/Ukraine66251776/status/1529787695517638656

Dead from the Russian shelling of Azovstal, or some other cause?

Who gives a shit?

Today's report. Liman is ours. At the gates of Artemovsk. Lots of info and links at the end

https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2022/05/26/parte-de-guerra-26-05-2022/

Ispan wrote:Today's report. Liman is ours. At the gates of Artemovsk. Lots of info and links at the end

https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2022/05/26/parte-de-guerra-26-05-2022/

TODAY 26 May

Map https://chervonec-001.livejournal.com/



General situation 12:00 hours - Igor Strelkov

1. Liman - the garrison is defeated and gradually withdraws with heavy losses, including prisoners. However, at the moment, the city has not yet been completely taken over.

2. Severodonetsk-fighting on the outskirts. South of Lisichansk, the enemy continues to cling to its heavily fortified positions in the Zolotoe-Orekhovo area, despite the fact that this group is almost encircled. The whole group in the Severodonetsk-Lisichansk area is now really in the "bag", supply is possible only by roads beaten by machine guns. Apparently, Kiev is prepared for the fate of the Mariupol garrison fighting there to gain time. Whether the Ukrainian troops fighting there can fight just as firmly after suffering heavy losses, we will find out soon.

3. On the approaches to Bakhmut (Artemivsk) and the distant approaches to Soledar, the fighting continues without a significant breakthrough of the Russian army and the DPR militia. Along this line (approximately) passes the second main line of defense of the enemy, which was prepared for many years. If it is not possible to break into that line on the heels of a retreating enemy, we will have to "gnaw" it again for a long time and with great losses.

4. In the area north and northwest of Avdiivka, where yesterday the DPR militias managed to cut off the Avdiivka-Konstantinovka highway, mass artillery shelling of Ukrainian positions was carried out this morning. Two counterattacks with the support of armored vehicles launched by the enemy in the first half of the day were successfully repelled by ours, inflicting heavy casualties on the enemy.

General situation: The enemy is striving to rebuild its battered units with reservists and (to a lesser extent) materiel. In many units of the Ukrainian army, troop casualties reach 40-50%, and in some up to 60%, which cannot but affect their effectiveness and morale. At the same time, the enemy's artillery continues to work very accurately, they cannonade en masse and effectively, and the use of NATO artillery pieces (155-mm howitzers) is noted. I still have the impression that the enemy is clinging to its operational reserves both to maintain the second line of defense and for planned attempts to launch a counteroffensive and snatch the initiative from the hands of the Russian command over the summer.
In any case, the strategic defeat of the Ukrainian army in the battle for Donbass is still far away.

17:00 hours

The Allied troops are already 5 km from Bakhmut (Artemovsk), having occupied Klinovoye



20:00 hours

The Russian Armed Forces are advancing on Borovsk (southeast of Severodonetsk)," said Sergey Gaidai, gauleiter of the Luhansk Regional Army.

https://t.me/swodki/104217

20:15 End of the battle for Krasny Liman

residents of Krasny Liman report on the withdrawal of Ukrainian troops from the southern outskirts of the city and the railway station, in the area of which fierce battles were fought since yesterday.

20:45

War correspondent Aleksandr Kots confirms the enemy's retreat from Krasny Liman. The cleaning of the city is being carried out. The enemy, as usual, bombards the city with artillery after retreating, but this is a sign of helplessness.

https://t.me/sashakots/33093



The Battle for Avdeyevka – Rybar

The front line on Avdeyevka has remained practically unchanged since 2015.

The Ukrainian army has turned the surroundings of the city into a solid, fortified area with a network of trenches, minefields and permanent firing positions, which significantly complicates the offensive of the Allied Forces.

The battalion "Somalia" and other units of the People's Militia of the DPR are advancing towards the eastern outskirts of Avdeyevka from the direction of the previously taken settlements Novoselkovki-2 and Novobakhmutovka. Hard fighting is fought for every hundred meters gained. At the moment, Republican units are anchored along the highway in Konstantinovka.

at the same time, parts of the Allied forces are advancing on Avdiivka from the Spartak village. Advanced detachments are fighting in the industrial zone, which for 8 years has been the scene of heavy clashes.

Summary of the day 21:30 hours - Mikhail Onufrienko

The most important news is that Liman has been released. In the first half of the day, it was said that our troops control two-thirds of the city, and now there are a lot of videos where Ukrainian soldiers say that they are withdrawing from the city. Next to him, two very small villages were liberated: Maslyakovka and Goluboe Ozero (Lake Azuk)

In Severodonetsk, there is urban fighting in the area of the bus station. In other words, our troops entered the city from the north and the east. The road to Lisichansk has been cut off. In Avdiivka, the Allied forces gained a foothold in the industrial zone. In general, the situation of the Lysychansk-Severodonetsk group is desperate, and the only reason why the troops of the Kiev regime are not withdrawing from there is that the moral and psychological state of the soldiers will deteriorate greatly and mass surrender will begin. Now there is already a wave of calls from several battalions encouraging desertion. It is also obvious that Kiev is trying at all costs to prevent the surrender of large settlements in order to hold out for another month and a half until the next batch of Western weapons arrives.

Other reports and news of interest:



The war crimes of the Kiev junta, information booklet in Spanish of the conflict, excellent summary explaining the origins of the conflict and all these years of war, I beg readers to spread it

http://warcrimesofkiev.com/?lang=es



Video

Video of an attack with incendiary projectiles (aluminum and/or magnesium), filmed from the Ukrainian positions.

https://t.me/RVvoenkor/13715

Thermobaric rocket explosions, the shock wave is visible thanks to the humidity in the atmosphere

https://t.me/RVvoenkor/13661

Interviews of prisoners in Liman with English subtitles, this channel has many subtitled videos with interviews of prisoners, denunciations of the crimes of the regime, civilian victims.. etc

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/4534

Ukrainian losses

We received interesting information about the losses of the Ukrainian army. As you know, such data is secret, therefore the command makes inappropriate decisions without fear of being responsible for the slaughter of thousands of soldiers.

For example, due to the lack of heavy artillery (it is kept in large cities) and the fear of losing the existing one, artillery is now practically not sent to the front line. Our tanks and artillery are simply attacked by infantry, with a known result (this is confirmed by many stories of ukrovoyak (Ukrainian fighters).

Now, as for the losses. No one will know the real number. Those killed in the battle began to be recorded as dead from illness (watch the video) despite the fact that the obvious cause of death is a bullet hole in the head. And the families of those who died in the barracks from the missile strikes do not receive posthumous payments. Not to mention telling them all.

To put it simply, they treat their own soldiers like cattle.

With knives for a shooting. Why is the Ukrainian army losing people so fast

https://readovka .news/news/98458

In Ukraine, they continue and continue to shoot videos dedicated to how things are at the front. We already regularly see the dying swan song, when Ukrainian soldiers demonstrate to a couple of dozen colleagues and report that this is all that remains of the company.

The reason for this state of affairs is quite banal. You can have a highly trained infantry, but it's the firepower that decides. As the regular mechanized brigades are eliminated, the Ukrainian army throws parts of the territorial defense onto the battlefield. And one of its key differences from normal battalions and brigades is a very weak artillery park. The Ukrainian Territorial Defense Brigade has six infantry battalions (the Russian one has three), but the Russians have these three battalions supported by three divisions of various artillery, against a mortar battery. Thus, for the teroborona of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, an artillery duel resembles an attempt to fight with a crowbar against a machine gun. And the collapse of the front of the "defenders" forces to stretch the already thinning regular units.

There is a general battle in the Donbass. Our army wins it.

Units caught in the Severodonetsk bag

https://topwar.ru/196849-stalo-izvestno-vojska-kakih-brigad-protivnika-riskujut-okazatsja-v-okruzhenii-v-lisichansko-severodoneckoj-aglomeracii.html

There are already 8,000 Ukrainian prisoners

If you add the captives in Russian hands, the figure of 11,000 prisoners that some reports speak of is confirmed. It is possible that at the end of the month the Russian army will publish a recount.

https://topwar.ru/196835-posol-lnr-v-rf-rasskazal-o-sotnjah-ukrainskih-voennyh-kotorye-ezhednevno-sdajutsja-v-plen.html

Anecdote: A lucky soldier

https://t.me/s/vysokygovorit

I have repeatedly written about the work of military doctors, telling them about the difficult wounds that they have to deal with. Now I would like to write about a lucky guy.

A couple of weeks ago, during the fighting near Dolgenky, a guy who was shot by a Ukrainian sniper was taken to the hospital. The enemy fired from four hundred meters, and hit him at the moment when the soldier was lying down. The bullet entered the right side of the neck and exited the left shoulder blade. I asked my friend, the military doctor, if the wound was very serious.

"Yes, you can ask him yourself," replied Colonel S. "Are you conscious?"Yes, he has a moderate injury. The bullet passed through soft tissues, and did not damage vital organs. The man was born lucky, no doubt.»

I approached the soldier, he was lying on a stretcher and felt quite comfortable (as much as you can feel after a bullet impact from an SVD rifle).

"Hey," he says. "I feel like I've been hit with a hammer, I thought about everything, I'm fucked. And now it doesn't seem to hurt much.»
The guy was originally from Belgorod, so he returned home for treatment.

War is a very mystical thing, as anyone can attest. You may be killed by a fragment of a stray projectile exploding more than a hundred meters away, or maybe so, when a sniper shot hits the neck, then it turns out to be a very deep scratch, but still.

Back in time to Oct 2014. The video that made Givi, rest his soul, famous.

JohninMK wrote:Back in time to Oct 2014. The video that made Givi, rest his soul, famous.

Yeah, Givi and Motorola would be proud. One can only pray and hope that they can see all this as they are in the afterlife.

Hole wrote:https://thesaker.is/sitrep-operation-z-consequences-petty-tabaquis-howling/

This part:

...The deputy chair of the Russian Security Council, former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, said that “any peace proposal built purely in the interest of NATO and the Western world order should simply be ignored.”

“Or rather, their authors should be told to go in a certain direction,” Medvedev said...

I told all y’all already that Dmitry is fuckin' crazy

If he were running the show VKS would have been doing Rolling Thunder all over Ukrop asses for months now  

Ukrainians curse Putin when in fact they should be sending him thank you notes and wishes for good health and long life

I think there's 5th columnists running some of Igor Strelkovs social media accts. So be warned. If not then he should be punished for the way he runs his mouth.

Sujoy wrote:These pollsters will be in great demand in many parts of the world. A bit of care in editing would help though. For example, the Russia occupied part should be dropped, as people will think Russians are so liberal that they freely allowed such pollsters access. Counters other necessary truths.

https://twitter.com/GlasnostGone/status/1529141593776828416?s=20&t=hFnMisAcZMpFaOOSTjgpXQ

But that's TRUE ! 80 % of Ukrainians on Russia's occupied territory. The catch here is that Russia is taking back her lands and is not occupying anything. Russia will never occupy OUN/UPA territory in London or Canada.

GunshipDemocracy wrote:

But that's TRUE ! 80 % of Ukrainians on Russia's occupied territory. The catch here is that Russia is taking back her lands and is not occupying anything. Russia will never occupy OUN/UPA territory in London or Canada.

As I've said before, the eastern border of Ukraine has never been confirmed by Ukraine. A new Ukrainian Government in agreement with Russia could put it anywhere that was agreed between themselves that it should be.