Russian special military operation in Ukraine #30

thegopnik wrote:I am still waiting on poland to do some stupid shit later, I don't think they are going to back off from Russia taking volyhynia and east galacia.

These low-radar visibility suicide drones with long ranges are a double edged sword

On the one hand yes, they make an excellent substitution to iron bombs probably costing less than a sortie with the dumbest cheapest bombs you can find. And more accurate, with real-time video at that.

On the other hand this heralds a whole new mini-revolution in warfare, and it's one Russia has to watch out for and soon. Because nothing prevents NATO from copying the idea and churning out thousands of these things themselves to supply to the Ukraine. In fact we should assume this will be done within 2 months.

Russia needs its anti-drone defenses ready by then. Chiefly EW means. The gammut of them ranging from portable anti-infantry weapons to heavy vehicle and aircraft mounted means. Maybe even EMP shells, as were rumored to be in trials for the Msta-S or Koalitsiya systems; so that drones can be knocked out even with artillery.
Also, if there are any cheap AAA defences with optical/radar automated guidance for engaging small drones, preferably with air burst shells - then it needs to get as much of those out as it can to units in the field as well. The 57mm cannons will be too much to ask for of course. But at least the Zu-23-2s, Shilkas and Tunguskas purposed for mobile defense and equipped with working radars.

What I'll say for the Ukrainian military is that after 8 months of bombardment - they are far more accustomed to camouflaging themselves from the air and moving about undetected then Russian units will be. It's harder for Russia to find targets among them, then it would be for them to find targets to hit among the Russian forces - who have enjoyed air superiority and a great deficit of enemy precision capabilities to date.
This is something that Russian command needs to deliberate on and find counters for ahead of time. And there isn't that much time.

Volyn & Galicia.
I remind you that the Galician-Volyn Principality was one of the Russian principalities, as well as the Grand Duchy of Lithuania (now the descendants of the Litvins are called Belarusians).

thegopnik wrote:I am still waiting on poland to do some stupid shit later, I don't think they are going to back off from Russia taking volyhynia and east galacia.

Not for long, the push from the South will come.

Hole wrote:

Scorpius wrote:
Volyn & Galicia.
I remind you that the Galician-Volyn Principality was one of the Russian principalities, as well as the Grand Duchy of Lithuania (now the descendants of the Litvins are called Belarusians).

ArgentinaGuard wrote:Hopefully the British choose that Polynesian or Indonesian. I want to laugh for a while at the great replacement.

Big_Gazza wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:Oh just f*ck off with your Nazi bullshit

..and you can shove yer head where the sun don't shine and ignore what should be readily apparent to anyone with a functioning brain-stem.

flamming_python wrote:

ludovicense wrote:Global Thinker
@talkrealopinion
According to insider Telegram channel MI6 informed Zelensky that Russia is now making own kamikaze drones. The capacity is 500/month but Russia aims for 100 new drones a day in 2023.
3000 in a month is no joke. There is no way NATO can provide Ukraine with this many surface-to-air missiles to shoot them down with........................

These low-radar visibility suicide drones with long ranges are a double edged sword

On the one hand yes, they make an excellent substitution to iron bombs probably costing less than a sortie with the dumbest cheapest bombs you can find. And more accurate, with real-time video at that.

On the other hand this heralds a whole new mini-revolution in warfare, and it's one Russia has to watch out for and soon. Because nothing prevents NATO from copying the idea and churning out thousands of these things themselves to supply to the Ukraine. In fact we should assume this will be done within 2 months....

Erk wrote:

zorobabel wrote:US lawmakers are discussing a $50 billion aid package for Ukraine. The warmongers have found their next forever war.

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1583174510219755520

Ukraine doesn't get the money, it goes straight to the US MIC and other people with their snouts in the trough.
Most of the money the MIC gets, is laundered as R&D costs, with a small amount actually going into weapons production.

That's how they managed to blow a trillion on the F-35 project.

It's all about milking the US tax payer, who doesn't really care, because the US just conjures more USD debt instruments to cover it, and sells them to suckers like China and Japan, or pension funds.

DerWolf wrote:

thegopnik wrote:I am still waiting on poland to do some stupid shit later, I don't think they are going to back off from Russia taking volyhynia and east galacia.

Would Russia go that far away into that hostile population?

Tolstoy wrote:

ArgentinaGuard wrote:The British Prime Minister has resigned. Political instability in Europe. Good sign for Russia.

 It is in Russia's interest to keep the West divided. But the Ukraine conflict has brought the west together.

This is why China too is upset with Russia as they also want a divided west.

limb wrote:One thing I blame the ukrainian successes in kharkov and kherson is the failure of russian troops to make any meaningul gains in donbass after the end of july. If the the Russians had actually captured soledar, put avdeevka in a cauldron or made significant advances in bakhmut instead of fighting for a few dozen meters during august, then the ukrainians wouldn't have been bold enough to transfer so many troops to stage large offensives. They would've kept trying to reinforce the donbass.

Tsavo Lion wrote:

Tolstoy wrote:

ArgentinaGuard wrote:The British Prime Minister has resigned. Political instability in Europe. Good sign for Russia.

 It is in Russia's interest to keep the West divided. But the Ukraine conflict has brought the west together.

This is why China too is upset with Russia as they also want a divided west.

Tsavo Lion wrote:Many here don't have American TV. at least to me, it's interesting to see what both sides r saying.
That way I can sift trough propaganda & half truths from all sides to form a more complete picture.