Russian special military operation in Ukraine #7

miketheterrible wrote:

par far wrote:Top level EU officials are going to Kiev.

I believe Kiev is completely surrounded.  Russia may just simply turn them away and tell them to go home.

If these top EU officials are going to Kiev, they most likely got clearance from Russia.

There can be no short term solution to Ukraine problem . No half- hearted measures or compromises . Denazification and demilitarization  of Ukraine can only take place by a cultural shift in Ukrainian society . The education of children , for at least one  generation , to break the chain of viral parental Nazi indoctrination , in Ukraine society .For this end , the UA needs to be disbanded . The Nazi elements arrested and sent to Siberia . Refugees will return , when security is established . From purely a practical point of view , these should be settled in linguistic distinct areas . Two or three zones can be set up , and need direct Russian administration to achieve the aims of the special operations . In my estimation , withdrawal of forces , may be possible in about twenty years . If we compare to similar situations like Syria .

par far wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

par far wrote:Top level EU officials are going to Kiev.

I believe Kiev is completely surrounded.  Russia may just simply turn them away and tell them to go home.

If these top EU officials are going to Kiev, they most likely got clearance from Russia.

That isn't necessarily true at all.

They think they may be able to go anywhere at anytime. They may find out the hard way it isn't true.

These officials are all terminal idiots. They can be false flagged by the yanquis at any moment.

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:

Isos wrote:See that's what I was talking about. They park them so close one from the other that one attack destroys plenty of them. That will teach them another lesson. Now they need to fire at least one general.

It is quite staggering how stupid people are. Will somebody please explain to me why the Russians would suddenly base 30+ unarmed and unprotected Mi-8s at a Ukrainian base, right at the front line, mere hours after they entered the general area?

Use Occams razor, right. The Ukrainians shelled the Kherson base and destroyed their own helicopters (most of which weren't even in flying condition anyway), as the Russians advanced, and outrageous propaganda took care of the rest.

It's been like this for two weeks now. Kiev is Baghdad Bobing, and their supporters lap it up, no questions asked.

I hope that you are right. It doesn't make any sense to station helicopters there, since Kherson airport is well within range of Smerch MLRS. FIRIS (NASA's fire tracking satellite) confirms fires at airport today.

kvs wrote:These officials are all terminal idiots.   They can be false flagged by the yanquis at any moment.  

Who cares. Let them. It is up to them. Russia doesn't care at this point either.

Fifty off-road vehicles from Chechnya arrived in the DPR

The head of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov, sent these cars to the Donetsk Republic for the needs of the army.

The head of the DPR, Denis Pushilin, thanked Kadyrov for such help: “This is what is needed now on the front line, what is needed at the front. In these difficult times, when the liberation operation is underway, such sincere support of our units is extremely important.”


https://t.me/intelslava/22461

At this point I would vote for Ramzan Kadyrov to be president of Russia

I am really happy with the help this man has given and what he has done in his capacity for Russia and for Donetsk

Ahmad Sila!

During the fighting, a well-known Nazi, one of the founding fathers of the infamous "national corps", Nikolai Kravchenko, nicknamed "Kruk" ("Raven"), was eliminated. He fought in the "Azov", and previously was a member of the terrorist organization "Black Corps" (Kharkov).

This clown once promised to annex the Kuban to Ukraine. But in the end, he joined before Bandera.



It looks like the Russian Intelligence have a good idea of where the assholes they want to eliminate are, there will be some that escape to the west but hopefully Russian Intelligence and Russian Military get a lot of these cocksuckers.

https://t.me/intelslava/22466

Arkanghelsk wrote:https://t.me/intelslava/22446

A British mercenary who joined the Georgian Territorial Defense Legion complains about the huge losses among the British and Americans as a result of the strike on their base, as well as the attitude of the Ukrainians towards them: they wanted to be sent to Kyiv with only 10 rounds of ammunition for machine guns .  As a result, he and his comrades returned to Poland, although not without problems at the border.

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No, he is Chinese. He is not British, but American.

Also, the death of Walli the sniper is fake news, unconfirmed, and came out on unofficial channels. It might be true, but most likely it was spread so he could reveal his location by denying it and then official confirmation would come. Preferably with a selfie with metadata. That's why some terrorists are announced dead 215 times until they actually get whacked by precision strike.

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:
It is quite staggering how stupid people are. Will somebody please explain to me why the Russians would suddenly base 30+ unarmed and unprotected Mi-8s at a Ukrainian base, right at the front line, mere hours after they entered the general area?

Use Occams razor, right. The Ukrainians shelled the Kherson base and destroyed their own helicopters (most of which weren't even in flying condition anyway), as the Russians advanced, and outrageous propaganda took care of the rest.

It's been like this for two weeks now. Kiev is Baghdad Bobing, and their supporters lap it up, no questions asked.

Not sure if this is true, but it is visible on commercially available satellite pictures. Looking at the craters around, you are free to guess was it Grad or Uragan. They hit that airport a few days ago and caused 0 losses. It wasn't even a full barrage. All those SF raids Ukraine boast are just lucky artillery hits. It's a shame that helos weren't protected with Hesco barriers and they were parked close, but against artillery shoot and scoot they have no defense, not against MLRS.

If they were Ukrainian helicopters (It was empty before?) then it was under Russian control. Ok, loss of helicopters - bad, but better than death of pilots and looking at the damage, only field was hit.

Wow just saw this on Yahoo News here in America.  What is this about; Can you guys explain this?



https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-deploys-mystery-munition-ukraine-114716254.html

For whatever reasons some bright light has decided to send the convoys of Kalibr reloads by a different route. Main drag in our little village is no longer clogged with green stuff so I can get to the vino shop with no troubles. Small joys in this mess are always appreciated and I have no doubts what so ever that SehSha ElintSats recorded same.

Vids of the Mariupol operation



Can't find the other one at the moment

So it's confirmed that the Kherson helo destruction is actually of abandoned Ukrainian helos, right?

Looks like that much hyped 'Forward Observations Group'

These guys



also lost some members in the cruise missile volley



A thousand of their lives? That's a pretty tall threat. So far they haven't killed anyone and just lost their own men

Psychologically the West recovered from Vietnam by the first war against Iraq . The accumulated hubris of false victories against weak nations in the ME , now inform the western mind . At least Iran escaped an onslaught , as conditions for an attack , one of social chaos , had not yet materialised . But now the  western mind , marches towards another " victory " , with Afghanistan in mind , while in reality they face Russia .In order to bring reality into the western psychosis , and save blood and treasure ,  and stop the snow ball from turning into an Avalanche that destroys ; then a display of force , or escalation is needed to disrupt this movement . An overt and hard to miss signal or signals . Lethal responses to lethal aid . An offensive response , not purely defensive . There are no possible conditions , under which , the West will stop lethal aid , now or in the future , other than retaliatory response on their territory , with material or lethal consequences .

More from my friend in Kiev (Belarusian and anti Putin and Luka). Heavy fighting in South West outskirts of Kiev. And many rumours flying around that they are going to do a big offensive and chemical weapons will be used. People are worried and people are trying to keep people calm.



Additional comment. This isn't me backing zelensky if you read it well this backs up Russia's words earlier talking about a false provocation. And the fact Ukrainian government is spreading this nonsense so if it happens the nation will blame Russia. This could be zelensky plan or should I say USA plan.

The Polish prime minister seems to play a dangerous game by provoking a possible Nuclear War with Russia. First he enters a war zone and then he suggests to interfere in the Ukraine war. Have these American vasalls lost their mind or are they just bluffing?

flamming_python wrote:Looks like that much hyped 'Forward Observations Group'



also lost some members in the cruise missile volley

https://twitter.com/MapsUkraine/status/1503871220755877893

A thousand of their lives? That's a pretty tall threat. So far they haven't killed anyone and just lost their own men

...Americans   ....

I guess war is not so funny when your asses are send out to the four winds by white people that have cruise missiles and an airforce too.

And always these over the top, emotional reactions when things do not go their way...
Not the first time i see it either.

d_taddei2 wrote:More from my friend in Kiev (Belarusian and anti Putin and Luka). Heavy fighting in South West outskirts of Kiev. And many rumours flying around that they are going to do a big offensive and chemical weapons will be used. People are worried and people are trying to keep people calm.

Don't bother with that guy, clearly riding high on emotions and panic

Airbornewolf wrote:
...Americans   ....

I guess war is not so funny when your asses are send out to the four winds by white people that have cruise missiles and an airforce too.

And always these over the top, emotional reactions when things do not go their way...
Not the first time i see it either.

lol, I remember saying day one or two something along the lines that there is not enough money in the world that could make me go fight in a peer-peer conflict.
That type of conflict is strictly paid only by duty honor and patriotism or compassion. Quite sure that all of the people that went back to Poland had none of it. To the ones that actually stayed and do not complain i can give some respect, but most of that respect is diminished by them fighting won the same side as nazis.

Apparently the Russians had made agreements with the elites of southern and eastern regions of the Ukraine for them to switch to the Russian side as soon as the invasion begins, and proclaim an alternative Ukrainian government Presumably with the defection of Ukrainian units to it and so on too

That explains the Russian 'polite' tactics in the first days of the campaign

Instead however those elites all betrayed Russia and declared allegiance to Zelensky as soon as the Russian operation began. Especially Kharkov.
With the exception of the Kherson region it seems which allowed the Russian military to take control.

What a monumental ****-up

Adding to the military ****-ups and underestimations of Ukrainian defenses; the polite shit didn't cut it
And adding to the financial slip-up I presume where half the gold is now confiscated and the US and Euro reserves Russia can't use
The media and infowar blitz Russia didn't adequately prepare for either

Yup

These are the sort of mistakes that have led to over 10,000-20,000 corpses in this conflict thus far. And all our leadership can do now is escalate and hire mercs from the Middle East in the hopes of coming away with at least something. Which won't be worth much of the paper it's written on.