Russian special military operation in Ukraine #17

Isos wrote:They already have bm-27 and bm-30 as well as tochka. It didn't really helped them. US counterparts are not any better and they will have far less than soviet systems.

Hole wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:

Hole wrote:https://thesaker.is/sitrep-operation-z-consequences-petty-tabaquis-howling/

This part:

...The deputy chair of the Russian Security Council, former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, said that “any peace proposal built purely in the interest of NATO and the Western world order should simply be ignored.”

“Or rather, their authors should be told to go in a certain direction,” Medvedev said...

I told all y’all already that Dmitry is fuckin' crazy

If he were running the show VKS would have been doing Rolling Thunder all over Ukrop asses for months now  

Ukrainians curse Putin when in fact they should be sending him thank you notes and wishes for good health and long life

Martyanov mentioned a while ago in one of his videos that Medvedev is some nasty guy. He is unforgiving. If you make a mistake he will go nuts on you even in front of others. On the other and Putin always stays polite.

Now remember what happened as Medvedev was President. The west tried to screw him and did so with Libya. He remembers.

Sujoy wrote:

Isos wrote:They already have bm-27 and bm-30 as well as tochka. It didn't really helped them. US counterparts are not any better and they will have far less than soviet systems.

Yes! And the rate of fire of BM-27, BM-30 is far higher than M-270.

Was Russia able to successfully intercept BM-27, BM-30 rockets in flight?

VARGR198 wrote:

https://twitter.com/Cyberspec1/status/1530075159519850496

Backman wrote:I'd like to criticize certain aspects of the war and have an adult conversation about it. But we cant have those discussions because we have children like Van around posting the most vacuous Kiev Independent propaganda that sucks all the air out of the threads.

It would be nice if we could give it a try without Van.

Backman wrote:I'd like to criticize certain aspects of the war and have an adult conversation about it. But we cant have those discussions because we have children like Van around posting the most vacuous Kiev Independent propaganda that sucks all the air out of the threads.

It would be nice if we could give it a try without Van.

Sujoy wrote:Ukraine has now received M 270. This system will be used to target Russian infantry divisions.

Scorpius wrote:

Sujoy wrote:Ukraine has now received M 270. This system will be used to target Russian infantry divisions.

I have to make an amendment: soon the M270 systems will be used by Russian infantry divisionsin the Donbas.

Isos wrote:
Dombas forces maybe. Russian army won't. They have their own systems.

limb wrote:

Backman wrote:I'd like to criticize certain aspects of the war and have an adult conversation about it. But we cant have those discussions because we have children like Van around posting the most vacuous Kiev Independent propaganda that sucks all the air out of the threads.

It would be nice if we could give it a try without Van.

Well I am called a troll if I post colonelcassad, rybar,  or alleged complaints of russian soldiers. If you post western propaganda, youre called a nazi troll. If you post russians criticising russian military or government performance, youre called an ura patriot emo marxist troll.

Mir wrote:MOD mentioned it on several occasions with their briefings.

zorobabel wrote:

sepheronx wrote:

zorobabel wrote:

Vann7 wrote:is a report 3 weeks old , but still interesting

This is the only source in the entire internet that explained in details ,
the real problems of the Russian army tactics , versus ukraine advance tactics trench warfare
that require ultra precision strikes ,that russian army artillery don't have , and also ukraine
heavy use of strike drones. He knows a lot of military tactics ,and not a stupid fanboy ,that makes excuses for the losses of russian military and show just the facts , of the problems facing both sides.
and whenever ukraine or russia shows progress ,he report it.  as it should be.

The lack of drones in the beginning of the conflict was strange. Russian units were shocked at how many experienced drone operators the DNR and LNR had, and how they had improvised with off-the-shelf options. Now, of course, many Russian units are being supplied with off-the-shelf drones for reconnaissance paid for out of people's pockets, but it is still unacceptable.

The KLUB-BLA video from a couple of days ago shows it can be much more effective than a Switchblade, and it is supposedly cheap and simple to produce. Where is the Lancet in this conflict? Agreed, there is a need for recon drones, drone swarms, loitering munitions. A big need for cheap kamikaze drones that can hit trenches, something like an upsized KLUB with a 6kg warhead, to use in conjunction with regular artillery.

You assume too much.

You do not have access to what Russia been using at all times. None of us do. We assumed they weren't using drones then we were getting image after image of Orlan-10 drones flying everywhere with either shot down or images of its assistance in artillery guidance.  People assumed Russia was barely flying planes until images of jets flying or some being shot down appeared.  Some assumes Russia took all these positions in Kharkov region and then fled the mighty Ukrainian army until it became known they never held many of these positions.  We assumed Russia all of a sudden lost snake island until it became clear the Ukrainians lost a shit ton in a botched op.

So I would refrain from assuming. It doesn't look good on you or me or any member here.

I'm not assuming anything. Russian soldiers were complaining on telegram about the lack of drones in the first two months. Kadyrov himself stated this.

Ispan wrote:203mm Malka in action. The report must be unbelievable in person

https://vk.com/video-133441491_456259738

diabetus wrote:

Ispan wrote:203mm Malka in action. The report must be unbelievable in person

https://vk.com/video-133441491_456259738

are there guided shells for this gun?