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The smallest displacement project where they put Calibrs was some 450t or something.
That shit is getting scary
That shit is getting scary
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Krepost wrote:Project 21635 SARSAR (a larger Buyan-M)
https://i.servimg.com/u/f20/20/39/08/89/18-10910.png
This is smart, just add some better AA system
Krepost wrote:Project 21632 (A smaller Buyan)
https://i.servimg.com/u/f20/20/39/08/89/19-10912.jpg
This is retarded, they already have far superior Bykov-class which does all this only better
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Modernized boat "Raptor 2.0"
From patrol boat to multifunctional attack boat” published a material about the project of a modernized version of the boat 03160 (code “Raptor”), presented by JSC “Leningrad Shipbuilding Plant “Pella” at the ongoing International Military-Technical Forum “Army-2022”, which received the designation “Raptor 2.0”. As an example of technical solutions for the Raptor 2.0 project, the already well-known modernized boat P-437 of project 03160 with building number 713 (built in 2018) was exhibited at the Army-2022 forum .
The updated boat "Raptor 2.0" has become one of the novelties of the International Military-Technical Forum "Army-2022". The Sudostroenie.info portal tells what has changed in the boat based on operating experience in real combat conditions.
The production of project 03160 patrol boats of the Raptor type began at the Pella Leningrad shipbuilding plant according to its own project eight years ago. Since then, almost two dozen boats have been transferred to the Navy. Raptors were built to carry out patrol duty, deliver and disembark groups of marines, intercept and detain small targets, and participate in search and rescue operations. According to the builder, the boats performed well in operation, including
However, the new operating conditions of the boats that developed in 2022 led the developers to make changes to the design, strengthen the protection and combat power of the boat. In addition, there was a need to replace some equipment. The updated "Raptor 2.0" became the central element of the open exposition of the Navy cluster at the "Army" forum.
If earlier project 03160 was positioned as a patrol boat, now it is a multifunctional attack boat. We can say, "armored personnel carrier on the water."
Compared to its predecessor, the Raptor 2.0 has increased displacement (from 28 tons to 30 tons), as well as length (from 16.9 m to 20 m). At the same time, the Pella designers retained a high maximum speed (from 50 knots it slightly decreased to 48 knots). The main power plant will now use two Russian [apparently Chinese] CHD engines with a total capacity of 1678 kW. The updated Raptor will also be propelled by Russian VD370 water cannons.
To increase the combat capabilities of the boat, the designers propose to equip the Raptor 2.0 with a more powerful weapon system. It will include: a shipborne remote-controlled module, two guided missile launchers, a laser radiation detection system and passive jamming.
It is also proposed to use an active protection complex with protective shots, a smoke screen setting system, an optical-electronic surveillance and aiming module, a central computer system and an operator's workstation.
The computer system allows target distribution of detected targets between the machine gun module and the guided missile module, control of the optical system, guidance of guided missile installations, information exchange between the elements of the complex.
The main strike armament of the Raptor 2.0 will be guided missiles with a semi-active laser homing head with a range of up to 8 km. Such missiles are designed for use from unmanned aerial vehicles and are at the stage of preliminary tests. The guided missile launcher is a gyro-stabilized rotary device that allows launching on a rocking base.
The system for detecting laser radiation and setting passive interference is designed to protect against melee weapons with optoelectronic sights and guidance systems operating in the infrared range.
The Pella designers developed the Raptor 2.0 project, taking into account the full localization of production. The main elements of the weapons complex are made on the basis of technical solutions and samples for other branches of the military. The construction of new "Raptors" in the quantity required for the customer is proposed to be carried out at the facilities of JSC "Pella".
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4573816.html
From patrol boat to multifunctional attack boat” published a material about the project of a modernized version of the boat 03160 (code “Raptor”), presented by JSC “Leningrad Shipbuilding Plant “Pella” at the ongoing International Military-Technical Forum “Army-2022”, which received the designation “Raptor 2.0”. As an example of technical solutions for the Raptor 2.0 project, the already well-known modernized boat P-437 of project 03160 with building number 713 (built in 2018) was exhibited at the Army-2022 forum .
The updated boat "Raptor 2.0" has become one of the novelties of the International Military-Technical Forum "Army-2022". The Sudostroenie.info portal tells what has changed in the boat based on operating experience in real combat conditions.
The production of project 03160 patrol boats of the Raptor type began at the Pella Leningrad shipbuilding plant according to its own project eight years ago. Since then, almost two dozen boats have been transferred to the Navy. Raptors were built to carry out patrol duty, deliver and disembark groups of marines, intercept and detain small targets, and participate in search and rescue operations. According to the builder, the boats performed well in operation, including
However, the new operating conditions of the boats that developed in 2022 led the developers to make changes to the design, strengthen the protection and combat power of the boat. In addition, there was a need to replace some equipment. The updated "Raptor 2.0" became the central element of the open exposition of the Navy cluster at the "Army" forum.
If earlier project 03160 was positioned as a patrol boat, now it is a multifunctional attack boat. We can say, "armored personnel carrier on the water."
Compared to its predecessor, the Raptor 2.0 has increased displacement (from 28 tons to 30 tons), as well as length (from 16.9 m to 20 m). At the same time, the Pella designers retained a high maximum speed (from 50 knots it slightly decreased to 48 knots). The main power plant will now use two Russian [apparently Chinese] CHD engines with a total capacity of 1678 kW. The updated Raptor will also be propelled by Russian VD370 water cannons.
To increase the combat capabilities of the boat, the designers propose to equip the Raptor 2.0 with a more powerful weapon system. It will include: a shipborne remote-controlled module, two guided missile launchers, a laser radiation detection system and passive jamming.
It is also proposed to use an active protection complex with protective shots, a smoke screen setting system, an optical-electronic surveillance and aiming module, a central computer system and an operator's workstation.
The computer system allows target distribution of detected targets between the machine gun module and the guided missile module, control of the optical system, guidance of guided missile installations, information exchange between the elements of the complex.
The main strike armament of the Raptor 2.0 will be guided missiles with a semi-active laser homing head with a range of up to 8 km. Such missiles are designed for use from unmanned aerial vehicles and are at the stage of preliminary tests. The guided missile launcher is a gyro-stabilized rotary device that allows launching on a rocking base.
The system for detecting laser radiation and setting passive interference is designed to protect against melee weapons with optoelectronic sights and guidance systems operating in the infrared range.
The Pella designers developed the Raptor 2.0 project, taking into account the full localization of production. The main elements of the weapons complex are made on the basis of technical solutions and samples for other branches of the military. The construction of new "Raptors" in the quantity required for the customer is proposed to be carried out at the facilities of JSC "Pella".
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4573816.html
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This boat in its original config has a very interesting feature that I can't remember from the other crafts.
It can slow down at an extreme ratio, creating a huge wave, a wall of water in front.
This can be used as additional coverage against missiles, let it be guided and non-guided ones. Any RPG/NLAW/CG or ATGM will detonate hitting/sensoring the wave.
If you can find a Combat Approval episode with it, they have shown that in practice. Very picterous !
It can slow down at an extreme ratio, creating a huge wave, a wall of water in front.
This can be used as additional coverage against missiles, let it be guided and non-guided ones. Any RPG/NLAW/CG or ATGM will detonate hitting/sensoring the wave.
If you can find a Combat Approval episode with it, they have shown that in practice. Very picterous !
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ALAMO wrote:This boat in its original config has a very interesting feature that I can't remember from the other crafts.
It can slow down at an extreme ratio, creating a huge wave, a wall of water in front.
This can be used as additional coverage against missiles, let it be guided and non-guided ones. Any RPG/NLAW/CG or ATGM will detonate hitting/sensoring the wave.
If you can find a Combat Approval episode with it, they have shown that in practice. Very picterous !
You may - or may not - be confusing it with this boat?
Whether you did or not - to complicate matters even more >>>
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Hole wrote:
The smaller one is a amphibious assault ship. Look at the parking area for vehicles.
Yes they did mention previously that the Varan will be developed into several versions - like the amphibious ship.
(So you noticed the stealthy hull - you can see right through it! )
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The Varan seems pointless to me, Russia already has the 40k tonne Ivan Rogov so why not build a full sized carrier instead?
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Broski wrote:The Varan seems pointless to me, Russia already has the 40k tonne Ivan Rogov so why not build a full sized carrier instead?
Man I do hope this carrier (Lamantin) will make it into Russian Navy service!
The Varan is a cheaper alternative to a nuclear powered carrier like the Lamantin - so who knows, it might have a place in the future?
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PapaDragon wrote:Krepost wrote:Project 21635 SARSAR (a larger Buyan-M)
https://i.servimg.com/u/f20/20/39/08/89/18-10910.png
This is smart, just add some better AA system
Indeed. A larger Buyan-M ship with more missiles and a better AA onboard would probably speed things up and get a solid ship for general use (protection and longer range patrol).
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There is already an enlarged version of Karakurt with more silos for cruise/hypersonic missiles and additional silos for SAM´s.
The enlarged version of Buyan-M is propably an attempt to keep the shipyard that produces the current smaller version in the game and smooth the transition process
between the versions.
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Mir wrote:Man I do hope this carrier (Lamantin) will make it into Russian Navy service!
The Varan is a cheaper alternative to a nuclear powered carrier like the Lamantin - so who knows, it might have a place in the future?
I´m always for a russian carrier as long as it carries a lot of cruise and hypersonic missiles + SAM, ABM and maybe ASAT systems.
The main point of the Varan is that it uses the same systems and machinery in different hull forms for different purposes.
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Hole wrote:I´m always for a russian carrier as long as it carries a lot of cruise and hypersonic missiles + SAM, ABM and maybe ASAT systems.
Couldn't agree more!
Hole wrote:The main point of the Varan is that it uses the same systems and machinery in different hull forms for different purposes.
I would like to see a more ASW orientated version as well (with lot of cruise and hypersonic missiles + SAM, ABM and maybe ASAT systems. )
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Mir wrote:Broski wrote:The Varan seems pointless to me, Russia already has the 40k tonne Ivan Rogov so why not build a full sized carrier instead?...
Man I do hope this carrier (Lamantin) will make it into Russian Navy service!
Lamantin was obsolete since before people who assembled scale model were hired
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Hole wrote:
There is already an enlarged version of Karakurt with more silos for cruise/hypersonic missiles and additional silos for SAM´s.
The enlarged version of Buyan-M is propably an attempt to keep the shipyard that produces the current smaller version in the game and smooth the transition process
between the versions.
Correct, almost forgot about this
This thing actually has AA system, just needs more of it
That Buyan update is completely redundant next to this one, it's butt naked
They still wasted entire front section on useless gun even here, it should house additional AA cells
AK-630 is more than enough as a gun and it can actually be used to help deal with missiles
Guns on ships in this day and age are a bad joke and a waste of space
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PapaDragon wrote:Mir wrote:Broski wrote:The Varan seems pointless to me, Russia already has the 40k tonne Ivan Rogov so why not build a full sized carrier instead?...
Man I do hope this carrier (Lamantin) will make it into Russian Navy service!
Lamantin was obsolete since before people who assembled scale model were hired
Very true in terms of the air wing on display. The Lamantin design is an updated Ulyanovsk. The aircraft displayed on the Lamantin model is basically what was proposed for the Ulyanovsk as well, but I think it would be obvious that any new Russian aircraft carrier would see the navalized version of the Su-57 and perhaps the Su-75 as well. Both the Su-33 and Mig-29K would be history by then. Same would be true for the non-realized Yak-44 and the Ka-27's. UAV's would also become common on any new Russian carrier. Even if they want to build the Varan I would be very surprised to see Mig-29K's on board.
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Mir wrote:
You may - or may not - be confusing it with this boat?
Nay, the whole episode was about Raptor
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ALAMO wrote:Mir wrote:
You may - or may not - be confusing it with this boat?
Nay, the whole episode was about Raptor
Yes I was confusing it with the one on the episode on the Pr.02800. Anyway it is quite interesting that two different companies developed virtually the same boat. The one in the front is the Pr.02510 BK16 and the presidential one in white is a Pr.03160 Raptor. >>
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