Brother Garry,
the forum is yours and the very idea of the forum is yours - I respect that.
Even if you work for the NSA (which I don't believe), I have to upload the next song.
And those who write "hey, that's not in accordance with the topic" may be right - but mostly we all move away from the topic and give our personal opinion, judgment or attitude. Killing as many Nazis as possible is necessary...
For all members, even if you don't think Kiev is nazi, their behaviour is worse than the nazis regard to using up their own troops without care for their wellbeing. They are very much like the nazis in trying to use up foreign troops for difficult jobs, but they normally didn't send them on suicide missions like Kiev does, and they believed their enemy was evil and so they didn't use their own people as human shields because the thought the Commies would love the excuse to kill, in fact Kiev is using their own people as human shields and targeting civilians on both sides trying to blame the Russians for war crimes because they know the Russians are honourable and that sort of thing would upset them and hurt them internationally.
Bio weapons labs and Nazi symbols and the potential for nuclear blackmail, Kiev wasn't too worried about international public opinion because they know the western media is on their side and that is the definition of international public opinion in the west.
Their core problem is that the west might not be involved in any peace treaty, because their might not be one... there are pro Ukrainian factions in the south and east of the country... the voting shows this to be true and there will be plenty from the rest of the country who know exactly how Zelensky and Kiev have been behaving and how the Russians have behaved and who will stop believing what they read coming from pro west pro kiev sources... when enough are like minded enough to turn on Zelensky and anyone who might replace him with the same policies and thoughts then Ukrainians can finish this by having a little temporary cease fire with Russia while they clean house.... they might kill them or they might arrest them, I am sure Russia has a list of who they want... and when that is done, the Ukrainians lay down their weapons and Russian troops secure their country to prevent nearby countries getting any ideas of expansion, and the trials can start... Russia might make them international, but not European or western courts, and present all the evidence they have been collecting... then of course there will be referendums across all of the Ukraine to decide their own fate, you can join Russia or you can become neutral like some European countries used to be... that neutrality would have lots of conditions and requirements, but would earn that neutral state or states money and resources from Russia to rebuild and recover and set up industries of their own to have a real future... something the west never even promised let alone the asset stripping they delivered.
After things are stable and scumbags have been hunted down or forced to flee back to the west, the Russian military can withdraw with the promise that any entry into the EU or HATO or any European organisation will lead to a return of Russian troops with a different agenda on their minds.
It might take years, but if it does take years then that is what it takes to get the job done properly.
The minds of Ukrainians was not broken overnight and can't be fixed overnight either.
Russia is doing this for them too.
The Tu-141 incident was serious, sure it's a recon drone, so it's not going to do much damage,
It is designed to carry iron bomb payloads as shown by the damage they caused when shot down... they can do significant damage with "direct hits".
But these were intercepted which likely made them miss their intended target.
but it told NATO that Russia's missile shield around Moscow is not impenetrable.
Israels missile shield lets through all sorts of things... the US missile shield let civilian airliners fly into the Pentagon for goodness sake.
The Tu-141 should have lit up radars all over the place, and if it really came from Ukraine, it managed to travel a long way, it's max speed is 1100km/h so is was in Russian air space for a long time.
They are rather fast... transonic in fact, and can fly very low... for all we know they might have put civilian airliner transponders on it to pretend to be a civilian airliner... that is the sort of shit the west does all the time.
But you would expect country who is at war to guard one of their important bases much better
The drones were shot down, which is doing better than Patriot and western systems in Saudi Arabia (presumably operated by Americans).
Ukraine will try to pull this shit again as soon as they have a chance. 3 attacks, only 1 stopped. How many drones were used for this?
Likely only one drone each because more would have gotten too much attention and been shot down earlier.
Official word is that the drones were shot down and did damage on the ground where they fell.
Now, how effective or ineffective “Ukrainian” drones will be, but most importantly- how many will be produced. Poland was ramping up production of suicide drones from March and I bet Ukrainians will just put a sticker on any NATO drone and call it theirs
Like any attack, the first one is almost always the most successful because it is unexpected no matter how obvious you might claim it to be after the event.
I think I have seen a twitter post somewhere today where Putin states our operation plans have changed after an emergency meeting, when he has issued Russia just got targeted in their own territory. But we all know not to get our hopes up. We got boring times ahead of us on this war. Might as well give Ukraine nukes to speed up the operation.
Hahaha... a Twitter post from Pedro, or Susan? Putin is indecisive and unreliable... gee it is time for him to go... the standard Twitter stance on Russia for the last 10 years...
This is NATO pushing things a little further. If this doesn't get a response, there will be a further escalation. That's the cycle we are in right now.
Russia lost three soldiers and 6 were injured... the planes can be repaired or replaced with newer models, Ukraine likely lost 500 men today and they are likely to lose another 500 tomorrow if not more along with equipment they are having trouble keeping operational... they need the appearance of an escalation because if the situation continues as it is they lose and they lose badly... the price of oil is going up and western countries have essentially banned their own shipping companies from earning money shipping Russian oil, and they have also banned western brokerage firms and insurance firms from earning money on the trade in Russian oil too and the consequence is that the price of oil is going to go up so Russia is going to earn more money on sales of oil and the west is going to earn less and pay more... of course they want escalation because this is damaging the west...
Why hurry?
There is nothing the US wants more than a perpetual war with Russia in Ukraine. This is why the monthly $30 billion aid packages have no domestic effect. This is what the regime wants.
They do what to damage Russia but they aren't, they are doing more damage to the EU and themselves... don't stop them when they make such mistakes... prepare for more drones and expand the targets in the Ukraine to hurt them more... transport trains they are using for supporting their troops would be worth targeting now as winter comes they can choose food and supplies or ammo.
Good news is, that only some 150 has been ever produced.
Bad news is, it was produced in Kiev, and Ukrs are the only ones who have some of them in use, taken out of storage as a poor mans V-1.
Good news is also they are not hard to spot if you are looking out for them and are ready to use forces like interceptor aircraft to shoot them down earlier over empty territory.
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