2023 Israel–Hamas war

Seems Hamas is a construct like ISIS spun off from the Muslim Brotherhood, the purpose being to prolong conflict under the guise of a resistance movement, but with a liberal dash of terrorism to outrage the public.

It makes sense, US is doing badly in Ukraine so they need to change the news cycle.

A nice explanation here on The New Atlas channel.

This could be what its all about. Another regime change attempt on Assad and removal of Russia's base somehow

The-thing-next-door wrote:The Merkava MK 4 has rather poor frontal hull armour due the the front engine, front transmission layout and minimal hull overhang.
Its design is more akin to an armoured Akatsiya than a European tank and by European standards it would be terrible.

It is actually the opposite.
Was true for earl Merkava, tho
Mk4 has a quite impressive front top hull plate with some +/-20 cm physical thickness and a very high angle. It is combined armor for sure, yet only the top steel plate is much thicker than the one used for M1.



As usual, Merkava is a victim of myths created for propaganda purposes.
Just the same as the other western tanks ...

This could be what its all about. Another regime change attempt on Assad and removal of Russia's base somehow

Do they understand Syria has Yakhont...

Russia probably wants to stay relatively neutral in this though lots of ammo and weapons went from Israel to Kiev so there is every reason for them not to.

An attack to try to remove Assad AGAIN would be a very dumb move by the US... good luck with that.

Arkanghelsk wrote:
Israel will just enter Gaza like in 2014

But what will the effect be ?

Israel cannot just blow up some tunnels , declare victory and leave

They must stay and annex the land to achieve any visible victory

That's why it's a bait, they will be force to raze Gaza to the ground, or they will fight in urban combat in this mad city

And what about their neighbors? How does Syria or Egypt react in the situation

I don't think we'll see a much bigger or wider war right away. As the Homs attack demonstrates, Syria still has too many internal enemies to focus on Israel. Egypt is still too wedded to the US and "peace" to do much either.
I think, though, recent developments are a watershed. The 50 years since '73 have seen a gradual trend toward accommodation with zionism. I think that process has reached its high water mark and will now ebb. For political reasons Bibi has no choice but to batter gaza and its people like hell. In addition, while he may face criticism for the initial setbacks, from now on there will be little resistance to the far right agenda. Smotrich and others will preside over annexation of the West Bank, and accelerated ethnic cleansing.
But the victory of the far right in Israel will inevitably turn the clock back in arab states. Popular outrage following a gaza bloodbath will leave them with no choice but to lessen or cut relations with Israel. And in time the cycle of war will be back.

ALAMO wrote:
It is actually the opposite.
Was true for earl Merkava, tho  
Mk4 has a quite impressive front top hull plate with some +/-20 cm physical thickness and a very high angle. It is combined armor for sure, yet only the top steel plate is much thicker than the one used for M1.

While it might have better hull armour than some western and east asian tanks, it still has a massive lower plate that cannot have a thick composite array and that upper plate is nowhere near 20cm judging by that boot right next to it.

It's turret protection arc is also rather poor owing to it's shape, while decent from the front it swiftly thins out at angles.

History does not repeat itself . Each time is different . What changed this time , was the further shattering of the image of Israeli invincibility , on their own territory . This coming after defeat at the hands of Lebanese Hezbollah . Incursion deep into the rear areas . High casualties . People will see , that such a small force , can inflict disproportionate losses on them . They learn new tactics , use of new weapons . As time passes , it becomes clear , the Zionist entity has no future .

https://en.mehrnews.com/news/206958/Military-failure-of-Israel-regime-unrepairable-Leader-says

nomadski wrote:


The Iranians are ready to send troops to Syria , to fight Israel and defend Syria and Lebanon . They are also ready to sink the American warships in the Med , should they intervene in war against Palestinians . I hope Iranians , instead of small efforts , do make a genuine big effort this time . If the leader gives permission for " Jihad , " then we can see troops arriving very soon !

You are exaggerating things too much. Iran's ability to fight against third world shitholes across its border like India and Pakistan is questionable and you somehow believe Iran will fight and win against the Yankees?

jhelb wrote:
You are exaggerating things too much. Iran's ability to fight against third world shitholes across its border like India and Pakistan is questionable and you somehow believe Iran will fight and win against the Yankees?

Iran doesn't have to fight the US, all they have to do is support Hezbollah and Syria.
Hezbollah to help Palestine.
Syria to reclaim Golem Heights.

The US wont interfere because if they attack Iran, oil flows from the Middle East will stop, and then the US is stuffed.

US can't allow a Middle East crisis, unless the Biden regime has totally lost the plot.

Jordan Peterson has been exposed. He is nothing more than a brainless imbecile, just like those hindutva BJP troll brigades from my country. Like, seriously, you don't have to be a Zionist cocksucker to condemn HAMAS terror attack.
And what's up with all this anti-Semitism nonsense? Aren't Palestinians also Semitic? His reaction is nothing short of utterly disgusting. He's against wokeism except when it comes to Israel. He is no different from a triggered rainbow femicunt.

Nothing so clearly demonstrates the hypocricy of the West than their attitudes to the enslavement and persecution of the Palestinians.

Shitty Haley: "Finish them off!"
Or "We are fighting against animals" by the israeli "defence" minister.
Disgusting!

This doesn't mean I think the entire Gaza op was fake.

They knew nothing about it. But their PR machine is using the situation to shield the public from the defeat in Banderastan.
The people visiting that music festival are the same kind that watched the bombing of Gaza a few years ago like a firework.
Armed radical settlers. They would be called right extremists in every western country but as long as they are in Israel all
western politicians are fine with them.

Ashlenazis, or European Jews, are not a Semitic people, but a Turkic Khazar one who migrated from Central Asia since centuries ago, causing headright trouble wherever they have settled due to this chutzpah doctrine deeply embedded in their Jewish religion.

Kiko wrote:Ashlenazis, or European Jews, are not a Semitic people, but a Turkic Khazar one who migrated from Central Asia since centuries ago, causing headright trouble wherever they have settled due to this chutzpah doctrine deeply embedded in their Jewish religion.

This is pseudoscience.

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:

Kiko wrote:Ashlenazis, or European Jews, are not a Semitic people, but a Turkic Khazar one who migrated from Central Asia since centuries ago, causing headright trouble wherever they have settled due to this chutzpah doctrine deeply embedded in their Jewish religion.

This is pseudoscience.

You are simply disqualifying me without bringing in any arguments.
BTW, Benjamin Netanyahu's real name is Mileikowsky.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jews

The article clearly states they're of mixed Semitic and Southern European ancestry, not Khazar.

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jews

The article clearly states they're of mixed Semitic and Southern European ancestry, not Khazar.

Khazars were a turkic people and there isnt any proof that they converted to Judaism, just unconfirmed mentions and BS probably

Israeli incompetence in mind israel has the fire power and can just carpet bomb for weeks, can't see how this ends well and the scum in the likud regime and that snake Netanyahu are okay with losses now, also Any reason why Trophy systems aren't working on these tanks? it's getting installed on Abrams as well i heard

Trusting Wikipedia is the maximum! Your next step will be resorting to insults.
Might well be this Holocaust complex affecting today's Germans!

Israel received final warning, by Petr Akopov for RIANovosti. 10.10.2023.

The flaring Israeli-Palestinian war concerns the entire world community - regardless of who sympathizes with whom and how far one is from the Gaza Strip. Because we are not just dealing with one (albeit the oldest) of the hot spots in the world, but with a problem that really could blow up the whole world. And neither the conflict in Ukraine nor the hypothetical war for Taiwan can compare with it in terms of the concentration of contradictions and the scale of threats.

Level one: Israeli-Palestinian. In response to an attack by Palestinian Hamas, Israel is now striking the Gaza Strip, having previously cut off its water, gas and electricity supplies. And he is preparing to launch a ground operation with the goal of destroying not just the infrastructure and military strength of Hamas, but also the organization as such. But this is impossible to do: Hamas has long become not just the government, but also the organizational structure of the Palestinians in Gaza. About three million Palestinians live on this small piece of land, and in order to destroy Hamas, Israel needs to either raze Gaza to the ground or ensure that all Palestinians flee to neighboring Egypt. Neither one nor the other is physically impossible - although Gaza has been living for decades in the regime of a large concentration camp (blocked and completely dependent on Israel), the Palestinians will not leave there even under carpet bombing. Israel will also not be able to expel them by force or put Gaza under military control. A ground operation, if it does begin, will cost the Jewish state enormous casualties (in urban battles), and total military superiority, as the events of October 7 showed, is no longer decisive for success.

And so while Prime Minister Netanyahu is now threatening Hamas with horrors and claiming that in retaliation “we are going to change the Middle East,” the chances that Israel will decide on a full-fledged large-scale and short-term military invasion of Gaza seem slim. Not only because in reality Israel does not have the ability to destroy Hamas, but also because a military operation would cause an escalation of the conflict. And this will manifest itself not only in an attack on Israel from the north by the Lebanese Hezbollah, but in the fact that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict will become an Israeli-Arab one. That is, what it was originally.

And this is the second level. Israel, of course, may be trying to bomb the Palestinians into the stone age, but many thousands and then tens of thousands of civilian casualties in Gaza will lead to an explosion of indignation on the Arab street in the Middle East and will force the governments of the region to change their policies not only towards Israel , but also to demand that the United States stop the Israeli war machine. All efforts made in recent years to establish relations between Israel and individual Arab countries will be destroyed. Moreover, the attempt to liquidate Gaza along with the outbreak of clashes in Jerusalem and the West Bankand fighting with Hezbollah on Lebanese territory, the third level of the conflict—Israeli-Islamic—will also intensify. The entire one and a half billion Muslim world will demand to protect the Palestinians and Al-Quds - Jerusalem, holy for all believers. When reaching this third level of conflict, the threat of involving Iran , not just a regional power, but also a contender for the place of the main defender of Islam throughout the world, increases.

Contrary to all speculation, the current Hamas attack was not provoked from Tehran - we are dealing with an uprising of concentration camp prisoners, that is, those who have nothing to lose and who are tired of constant humiliation, dependence on an order of magnitude stronger enemy and hopelessness. Iran does not need a war with Israel now - just as Israel does not need Iran (although there are supporters of an attack on Iran in the Israeli leadership, but they want to do it with someone else’s, American hands - to which Washington definitely won't be solved). But the danger of the Israeli-Palestinian problem is that, due to its multi-layered nature and neglect, it is fraught with uncontrollable developments. After all, the three levels outlined above do not exhaust it, although they themselves can, if escalated, lead to a full-scale war between several countries in the region, including the use of nuclear weapons (Israeli - other countries do not have them). But the Israeli-Palestinian problem is not limited to these three levels.

There is a fourth level in it - this is the conflict between East and West or West and the Global South. Israel is not just a creation, but also a part of the West - more precisely, its Anglo-Saxon avant-garde. Israel is not an ordinary state, but, in fact, the 51st US state brought to the Middle East, and a privileged state. Everyone understands that fighting with Israel is tantamount to fighting with the States. But the problem is that the global dominance of the United States has already been shaken (and the trend is definitely negative for the States). And along with it, Israel’s dominance in the region has been shaken - neither the atomic bomb, nor technological superiority, nor skillful propaganda can no longer ensure its security and existence in the medium term.

Because today's Israel, completely shamelessly and with impunity (if we talk about such a favorite instrument of the West as sanctions) trampling on all the rights of the Palestinians (building its own state on their lands and not wanting to give them the right to create their own), could only exist in the era of American domination ( and before that in the era of Soviet-American confrontation). This era in any case could not last forever, but it could be used to solve the Palestinian problem. Finding this solution was in Israel's interests, because in this way it could prevent the onset of times when it would be left alone with the Arabs around it, that is, it would be doomed.

However, Israel did not want to acknowledge the emerging reality and honestly look at its prospects - and did not allow the creation of a Palestinian state, and he himself did not want to become a state of two peoples (he did not abandon the principle of a purely Jewish national state, making the Palestinians full citizens). Israel itself doomed itself to defeat in a short-term historical perspective - and even now continues to talk about its opponents as “terrorists” and “beasts in human form,” that is, it refuses to admit its responsibility for the decades of humiliation of the Palestinian people.

And these humiliations also remind us of the fifth, most serious level of measurement of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict - the eschatological one. The struggle for Jerusalem was the quintessence of world history for most of our era - and now the holy city remains at the center of global controversy. And it doesn’t just remain: the world has entered a period of major transformations, a change in the entire world order. The half-millennium period of Western dominance is ending - and new times and new rules are coming and being formed. In any case, the Palestinian issue will not be able to remain in its previous, unresolved, suspended form - it will either detonate in such a way that no one will care, or it will actually begin to be resolved, ceasing to be a global tinderbox with ever-smoldering coals on it.

https://ria.ru/20231010/preduprezhdenie-1901620691.html

LIVE: Ansarullah Chief Abdulmalik Al-Houthi delivering speech.


https://twitter.com/PressTV/status/1711730311648657535

Rocket attacks are reported against Tel Aviv.

Video shows the latest barrage of rockets flying from Gaza over the skies of the occupied lands towards Tel Aviv

https://twitter.com/AryJeay/status/1711729292541833251

For the first time since the beginning of the Al-Aqsa Flood, the "David's Sling" Air Defense system had been activated to counter the rockets.

The Zionist regime's army also announced that the recent rocket attack on Tel Aviv was the most severe in recent years.

https://twitter.com/AryJeay/status/1711734812392706138

“By order of the Qassam Brigades, leave your homes immediately. We will launch a missile attack soon.”

Messages arrived on the phones of occupied Asqalan (“Ashkelon”) settlers a while ago.

30 minutes left for settlers to leave.