Russian special military operation in Ukraine #50

ALAMO wrote:

sepheronx wrote:

Yes, US has thousands. Possibly less than you think they do.  

A while ago a number of operational Tomahawks was revealed.
The entire US stock was about 2000 pcs.
It was quite a blow, as it is the only weapon system they can use in a theatre depth.
And proved shockingly ineffective if confronted with reliable forces.
Just for the records, the number of precision guided long range missiles Russkie have used in 404 is more than 3000 pcs, excluding Gerans.
We are not talking about guided bombs and MLRS.

mnztr wrote:

i am hearing that its heavily fortified and that Russia is working on undermining the fortifications. Why would they not try FAB 9K or FOAB?

Has Russia solidified her positions at the garbage dump in the northern wing ? It seems like the Maidan has been violently trying to contested it due to tactical importance of that highpoint

He isnt even that influential it is bizarre.

Regular wrote:

mnztr wrote:

i am hearing that its heavily fortified and that Russia is working on undermining the fortifications. Why would they not try FAB 9K or FOAB?

Good question. They don’t want to risk their planes as it can’t be lobbed from far. UMPK Fab500/1500 and helicopters are being used instead.

I wouldn’t believe that Russians digging under the city, they are advancing on the ground. Terrikon taken, established fire control should slowly cook Adveevka into Bakhmut.

Best to manage expectations, but the ugly grind is benefiting Russia.

Has Russia solidified her positions at the garbage dump in the northern wing ? It seems like the Maidan has been violently trying to contested it due to tactical importance of that highpoint

Yea. Ukraine gave proof of this. But as of yesterday, they tried to counter attack with no luck, so they can contest the control somewhat. Don’t forget about southern advances, too many people looking at north, check caprice maps

They can match Russia pound for pound, simply by being aware of where Russia is moving and concentrating

Arkanghelsk wrote:No Tu22 is going to fly near enough to drop such bombs ,

Su34 is launching FAB from 60km+ of the zone of hostility

Russia tactics are moving from Terrikon to the northern village of Stepove and get some fire control over the north of the coke plant

Once they can suppress those units most north of the AKHZ, they can start storming directly the outskirts of the coke plant

Then they can cutoff the MSR supply route to the coke plant, just like Bakhmut simply by artillery fire and drones

The VSU other supply route other than the MSR is the smaller roads to the south of the MSR, near Severnoe

That area too has to be placed under fire control, but this operation will take a long time just like any other urban battle we have seen

That's the price to pay for allowing NATO ISR to be a force multiplier for Ukraine

They can match Russia pound for pound, simply by being aware of where Russia is moving and concentrating

So the only option is to beat them tactically, even under the plain sight of NATO ISR

You have to use equal numbers of men, firepower, armor, and general resources because as soon as they see you accumulating anything, they will reinforce that sector and nullify anything you do

So you need to just beat them with equal forces and be more tactically savvy then them

And once Donbass is liberated, then the pace of operations will change, until then, it will remain a grinding war mainly within Donbass