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Is an 'afterburner' engine a gas turbine?
Also how do RuN grades of Captain rank map across to Western ranks?
Also how do RuN grades of Captain rank map across to Western ranks?
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Russian Navy: Status and News #5
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JohninMK wrote:Is an 'afterburner' engine a gas turbine?
Also how do RuN grades of Captain rank map across to Western ranks?
Captain in the navy is usually reserved for Crusier and above ships. Tho you need to have some additional qualifications to command an Aircraft carrier.
Commander (O-5) level, typically command destroyer, frigate for 0-5'S with the right qualifications like surface warfare officers, a nuclear-powered attack submarine, or ballistic missile submarine.
In the Navy, The Captian rank is comparable to Colonel in other branches.
Their Captain 1st rank would be comparable to USN Captains.
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On August 18, 2021, the Kerch shipbuilding plant "Zaliv" launched the main cable vessel "Volga" of project 15310 (code "Cabel") with the factory number 301. The construction was carried out in the interests of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.
The vessel received the paint adopted for vessels of the Main Directorate of Deep-Sea Research (GUGI) of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.
The vessel received the paint adopted for vessels of the Main Directorate of Deep-Sea Research (GUGI) of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.
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Russian_Patriot_ wrote:On August 18, 2021, the Kerch shipbuilding plant "Zaliv" launched the main cable vessel "Volga" of project 15310 (code "Cabel") with the factory number 301. The construction was carried out in the interests of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.
The vessel received the paint adopted for vessels of the Main Directorate of Deep-Sea Research (GUGI) of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.
Very good, I remember having read that this (together with his brother) was stuck in the drydock in incomplete state for a few years due to lack of some specific equipment due to sanctions...
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A large ship with a displacement of about 8,000 tons 
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... and the living proof, that Zaliv is working as planned, what used to be neglected by nay-sayers for a long time.
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Most likely, since the construction should have been completed two years ago according to the original planRodion_Romanovic wrote:Very good, I remember having read that this (together with his brother) was stuck in the drydock in incomplete state for a few years due to lack of some specific equipment due to sanctions...
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ALAMO wrote:... and the living proof, that Zaliv is working as planned, what used to be neglected by nay-sayers for a long time.
By the way, was Zaliv in better condition than the shipyards in Nikolaev in 2014?
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Zaliv now has a very ambitious task. Construction of two LHD units with a displacement of 40,000 tons. No other shipyard in Russia builds such large ships aside from Zviezda. I wonder if Zaliv will build a new Russian aircraft carrier in the future? 
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Not so nice to see 
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Arrow wrote:Zaliv now has a very ambitious task. Construction of two LHD units with a displacement of 40,000 tons. No other shipyard in Russia builds such large ships aside from Zviezda. I wonder if Zaliv will build a new Russian aircraft carrier in the future?
Zaliv is slated for construction of the lead ship of the Lider - we'll see?
AND I hope to see a couple of new Zubrs in future!
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Mir wrote:Not so nice to see
I feel the opposite.
Times, when old warships used to rust just along the pier or sink in harbour, are over.
Scrapping is running according to the plan, I'm quite surprised they took care of that with such a rush.
That is yet another piece of evidence that they are getting better and better each week.
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Mir wrote:
Zaliv is slated for construction of the lead ship of the Lider - we'll see?
I think they will not build Lider destroyer. I think they will focus on building the 22350M project.[/quote]
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ALAMO wrote:Mir wrote:Not so nice to see
I feel the opposite.
Times, when old warships used to rust just along the pier or sink in harbour, are over.
Scrapping is running according to the plan, I'm quite surprised they took care of that with such a rush.
That is yet another piece of evidence that they are getting better and better each week.
g the
It may be the end of an era, but also the start of a new one
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Mir wrote:
Zaliv is slated for construction of the lead ship of the Lider
Where did you read that? Any source?
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owais.usmani wrote:Mir wrote:
Zaliv is slated for construction of the lead ship of the Lider
Where did you read that? Any source?
No source, it's not happening
Lider a nowhere in Russian naval planning
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owais.usmani wrote:Mir wrote:
Zaliv is slated for construction of the lead ship of the Lider
Where did you read that? Any source?
OMG that's a tough question but I've read it somewhere when I did some research the around Russian and Soviet shipyards. I'll try and find it for you.
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PapaDragon wrote:owais.usmani wrote:Mir wrote:
Zaliv is slated for construction of the lead ship of the Lider
Where did you read that? Any source?
No source, it's not happening
Lider a nowhere in Russian naval planning
I definitely read it somewhere "official". I'll try and find the source but anyway Russia is quite serious in pursuing and aircraft carrier program in the near future. The Slavas are getting old with no upgrade plans so they will have to look at a replacement quite soon to escort the carriers.
The Gorskov-M destroyers will replace the Udaloys and what's left of the Sovremennys. Lider will likely replace the Slavas.
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I've read it somewhere that the lead ship of the Lider class will start building in 2023 in the Zaliv shipyard. In the same article I've read that the Lider will be nuclear powered and will be quite large at around 18-19000 tons. It could have been something on Balancer.ru as I visit there quite often? However I've only managed so far to get a Wikipedia reference to that effect, but no real details or further citations on Wikipedia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zalyv_Shipbuilding_yard
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zalyv_Shipbuilding_yard
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I think you're mistaken, Russia plans to start building its 2nd and 3rd Lider-Class Icebreakers starting from 2023.Mir wrote:I've read it somewhere that the lead ship of the Lider class will start building in 2023 in the Zaliv shipyard. In the same article I've read that the Lider will be nuclear powered and will be quite large at around 18-19000 tons. It could have been something on Balancer.ru as I visit there quite often? However I've only managed so far to get a Wikipedia reference to that effect, but no real details or further citations on Wikipedia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zalyv_Shipbuilding_yard
The steel cutting for the first Project 10510 icebreaker began at Zvezda on 6 July 2020. The first vessel of the series will be named Rossiya, a name previously given to the third Arktika-class icebreaker that was in service in 1985–2013. It was laid down on 5 July 2021. The construction of two follow-on vessels is planned to begin in 2023 and 2025 respectively. The envisaged dates for making those ships operational are projected as 2030 and 2032
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_10510_icebreaker#Construction
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Mir wrote:I've read it somewhere that the lead ship of the Lider class will start building in 2023 in the Zaliv shipyard. In the same article I've read that the Lider will be nuclear powered and will be quite large at around 18-19000 tons. It could have been something on Balancer.ru as I visit there quite often? However I've only managed so far to get a Wikipedia reference to that effect, but no real details or further citations on Wikipedia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zalyv_Shipbuilding_yard
Don't know what you read, but Zaliv is pretty busy with the two massive heli carriers that got laid down a year ago. Any space in the dock as well as worker capacity is likely to be VERY limited and no way they have enough workers and space for a 20k nuclear cruiser.
Biggest thing that's about to be laid down soon is the Gorshkov-Ms that are confirmed to be laid down as soon as Sev Verf finishes construction of their new large boathouse.
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PapaDragon wrote:owais.usmani wrote:Mir wrote:
Zaliv is slated for construction of the lead ship of the Lider
Where did you read that? Any source?
No source, it's not happening
Lider a nowhere in Russian naval planning
The source is the old troll
.What was his name ? Ehniee or something like that ?
Remember according to his source Lider was already in production back then
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Broski wrote:I think you're mistaken, Russia plans to start building its 2nd and 3rd Lider-Class Icebreakers starting from 2023.Mir wrote:I've read it somewhere that the lead ship of the Lider class will start building in 2023 in the Zaliv shipyard. In the same article I've read that the Lider will be nuclear powered and will be quite large at around 18-19000 tons. It could have been something on Balancer.ru as I visit there quite often? However I've only managed so far to get a Wikipedia reference to that effect, but no real details or further citations on Wikipedia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zalyv_Shipbuilding_yard
The steel cutting for the first Project 10510 icebreaker began at Zvezda on 6 July 2020. The first vessel of the series will be named Rossiya, a name previously given to the third Arktika-class icebreaker that was in service in 1985–2013. It was laid down on 5 July 2021. The construction of two follow-on vessels is planned to begin in 2023 and 2025 respectively. The envisaged dates for making those ships operational are projected as 2030 and 2032
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_10510_icebreaker#Construction
I'm talking about Zaliv and not the Zvezda shipyard and it does not include the icebreakers.
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x_54_u43 wrote:
Don't know what you read, but Zaliv is pretty busy with the two massive heli carriers that got laid down a year ago. Any space in the dock as well as worker capacity is likely to be VERY limited and no way they have enough workers and space for a 20k nuclear cruiser.
Biggest thing that's about to be laid down soon is the Gorshkov-Ms that are confirmed to be laid down as soon as Sev Verf finishes construction of their new large boathouse.
You could be right and they might even build more of those amphibious carriers? If they can build small carriers they shouldn't have too many issues with building cruisers. They have some nuclear experience by building the arctic nuclear cargo ship. I guess we'll have to wait and see.