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    Decline of the western society #3

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    Post  kvs Mon Oct 21, 2024 6:26 pm

    Typical western "due process" and "legality".   If you drive your car through the US and get stopped for some BS reason or another, the cops have the right search your car and if
    they find lots of cash or whatever, they have a "right" to seize it.   Do not drive in the US with lots of cash, just have credit cards.   The video is describing the typical abuse of
    the judicial system.   Some law is passed for allegedly a narrow focused enforcement effort, but this law is then used for everything.   As with the municipality in the Ontario, Kanada,
    which is using traffic ticket regulations to charge people for "violating" illegal by-laws to the tune of tens of millions of dollars.   So a $100 traffic ticket system is abused to extort
    tens of millions from individuals and not in aggregate.  

    The kangaroo laws in the US are getting worse every year.   They can charge you with destroying evidence if you flush a toilet when your house is being raided.   Whether you are
    a criminal and actually doing this is no longer important.   They can't be bothered to check if anything other than urine and feces were actually flushed down the toilet.   You may
    ask why would someone be raided if they were not dirty.   That is nonsense.   There is a term called "swatting" where malicious individuals call the cops on a target individual by making
    false accusations.   For example, claiming that there is a hostage being held or some other "serious crime in progress".   The cops treat such malicious pranks as if they are legit
    and send in the swat team.   If you act the wrong way, the swat team will kill you.   American "freedom" is best "freedom".

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    Post  GarryB Mon Oct 21, 2024 11:01 pm

    I saw a video by a black guy saying he will never call the cops because being a black man, his experience and his family and friends experience is that when they arrive they are just as likely to be arrested or shot than the criminal they were calling the cops for.

    Endless stories of police going to the wrong house and shooting dogs and then finding they are on the wrong street. One case the police was called to a house because a neighbour thought they could hear gunfire so the cops when in guns drawn and saw a figure through an open window of a man holding a gun. They shot him through the window and went inside to find a dead 12 year old boy with headphones still on with his his game controller at his feet where it fell when he was shot through the chest... he was playing call of duty.

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    Post  Odin of Ossetia Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:31 pm

    PhSt wrote:



    The guy is clearly using his kids as a "shield" to do evil.

    Something like "you cannot do anything to me because I have small children in my car."  angel

    He did not expect the "my two years old child was to drink this" countermeasure.


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    Post  kvs Fri Oct 25, 2024 6:32 am



    So, after decades of these walk-in ovens being deployed we still have no inside latch on the doors? Is this supposed to be a technological challenge beyond the
    Moon landing? BTW, even if an adult walks into an oven at 459 degrees, which they normally would not, then they would not faint and die immediately. It would take
    way more time to faint than to open any latch and escape. People would prefer to burn their hands than to die and a latch does not require full gripping and long time
    to activate, it can easily be designed to be pushed for 0.5 seconds.

    There were experiments conducted in the late 1700s that showed human resistance to cooking thanks to sweating:

    https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/experiments-and-observations-in-a-heated-room-1774/

    In 1774 and 1775 the British physician and scientist Charles Blagden conducted a series of experiments concerned with exploring the effects on the human body of extremely high temperatures, "air heated to a much higher degree than it was formerly thought any living creature could bear". In what equated to something akin to a "super-sauna", Blagden and his co-experimenters (including a dog) subjected themselves to enormously hot temperatures. Beginning at a modest 100 degrees Fahrenheit (38 degrees Celsius), by the 1775 session they progressed to temperatures upward of a whopping 260 degrees Fahrenheit (127 degrees Celsius). Not surprisingly the air was at times quite literally scorching, and a full cladding of clothing was mostly worn to protect their skin, though Blagden did experiment one time being in the room naked from the waist up with only a suspended cloth protecting him from the rays of the hot irons.

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    Post  kvs Fri Oct 25, 2024 8:21 pm



    Tesla cars are utter shit. No door handles? Seriously? What sort of retard designs essential features assuming that power will always be available?
    I preferred roll down windows when they were still available. Losers feel the need to push a button to roll down a window. We also have the absurd
    auto-locking when driving. The driver should always have the option to drive with the doors unlocked. Carjacking has not taken over the roads just yet.

    Also, where are all the regulatory agencies that allegedly test cars for safety? Cars which cannot be opened from the outside violate the first item in the
    safety list. Windows that cannot be rolled down manually and doors that lock electrically ensure that you will drown if your car goes into a body of water
    since the electrical system will not work in water. Bring a hammer with you and keep it by your seat. But if the cops stop you and see it, they will charge
    you for driving with a lethal, unsecured weapon. The west is a clown show cluster-f*ck.

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    Post  sepheronx Fri Oct 25, 2024 8:36 pm

    Indians from India love that shit though. All I see is them driving.

    @Sujoy

    Why do you guys love this shit so much?
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    Post  higurashihougi Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:22 am

    kvs wrote:https://youtu.be/AhgKkiuEmnE

    Tesla cars are utter shit.   No door handles?  Seriously?  What sort of retard designs essential features assuming that power will always be available?
    I preferred roll down windows when they were still available.   Losers feel the need to push a button to roll down a window.  We also have the absurd
    auto-locking when driving.  The driver should always have the option to drive with the doors unlocked.   Carjacking has not taken over the roads just yet.

    Also, where are all the regulatory agencies that allegedly test cars for safety?   Cars which cannot be opened from the outside violate the first item in the
    safety list.   Windows that cannot be rolled down manually and doors that lock electrically ensure that you will drown if your car goes into a body of water
    since the electrical system will not work in water.   Bring a hammer with you and keep it by your seat.   But if the cops stop you and see it, they will charge
    you for driving with a lethal, unsecured weapon.   The west is a clown show cluster-f*ck.

    For a while Tesla cars were notorious for its unpredictable brake pedal to the point that users have to install camera on their foot to serve as a proof that they do stomp on the pedal but it does not work.

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    Post  PhSt Thu Oct 31, 2024 3:28 am

    This is beyond creepy affraid

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    Post  andalusia Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:09 pm

    How unsurprising that the athletic director, sitting on millions of dollars of new money, doesn't see any problem with student-athletes traveling this much.  

    Colleges and Universities shouldn't be in the athletic business.  They are places for amateur athletes, not for professionals.  This is not a good trend, paying student athletes...antithetical to education.


    The highest paid employees at most division 1 schools are the coaches. Some make upwards of $10 million per year. The same schools often hire adjunct faculty with PhD’s to teach academic courses as a money saving move since these instructors are essentially temps with little or no benefits and meager salaries often less than $50K. The “student” football and basketball players at big time sports universities  are not college students by any measure, They have become  professional athletes employed in what are essentially the minor league teams for the NFL and NBA. Even at small colleges, often 30 percent of the admitted students are recruited to fill the roster of various athletic teams. This entire collegiate sports system is sick. Schools have lost their way emphasizing sports, which have become a distraction from their academic mission. Moreover, these young athletes in many sports are exploited, mistreated and injured with their coaches and athletic departments forcing them to spend many hours each day in training instead of studying snd doing schoolwork. Hopefully, this entire cynical collegiate sports entertainment empire, promoted by the NCAA and the media, will come crashing down and schools will return to their primary role, teaching.






    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/being-a-college-athlete-now-means-constant-travel-and-missed-classes/ar-AA1tdqll?ocid=BingNewsVerp
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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Fri Nov 01, 2024 8:10 am

    andalusia wrote:
    Colleges and Universities shouldn't be in the athletic business.  They are places for amateur athletes, not for professionals.  This is not a good trend, paying student athletes...antithetical to education.

    I totally agree.
    Furthermore not everyone should study in University.
    I find absurd that there are universities dedicated to this.

    The focus of university should be for studying. Sport there should be only an amateur issue and only in order to offer various sports and physical training to students at low cost.

    I doubt that any of these athletes will have an engineering or medical degree.

    Anyway, 90% of people who nowadays start university should instead be working or doing a practical apprenticeship.
    Furthermore the vast majority of majors should disappear from universities.
    Some of those could remain as vocational studies in some institutions, but should not give those who attend a university degree.

    Finally, I find it absurd that a university degree is requested for many jobs who could in the past be done excellently by someone with a high school diploma and an apprenticeship.
    What happened in Italy (and I believeis that high school quality dropped a lot, and many people who start university have less knowledge than someone at the second year of high school a quarter of century ago.
    In the past (up to the early 90s) we had people with a technical high school diploma who had better technical and theoretical knowledge than someone with an engineering bachelor from UK or US. (And in Italy until the bologna process was implemented many silly bachelor degrees did not exist).

    Instead of improving the quality and preparation of pupils and student, it went down across all schools.

    First school started being treated and managed as enterprises, where the number of pupils who "graduated" or passed to the next year was the deciding factors on the amount of money the school would receive. Thus many students who should have repeated an year or at least spent the summer studying to try pass a repair exam were instead promoted to the next class without having learned the basics needed.

    Also students were relieved of responsibility and of the consequences of their actions.
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    Post  higurashihougi Fri Nov 01, 2024 9:44 am

    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:First school started being treated and managed as enterprises, where the number of pupils who "graduated" or passed to the next year was the deciding factors on the amount of money the school would receive. Thus many students who should have repeated an year or at least spent the summer studying to try pass a repair exam were instead promoted to the next class without having learned the basics needed.
    In East Asian we called it as "financial autonomy", and the proponents of such profit-driven model re-use the boring neo-liberal arguments of "innovation", "competitiveness", "efficiency" and "increased quality" when they PR for turning schools into commercial business.

    But from the experiences of the students themselves, they only see that school fee and tution fee increase, and from the point of view of teachers that is the workload and non-educating works increase. No increase in education quality are observed.
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    Post  GarryB Fri Nov 01, 2024 8:44 pm

    Not sure about the rest of the world but here in NZ we have Universities as tertiary level education, but also Polytechnics at the same level.

    The University studies various subjects, and in some areas there is cooperation with private business, but most of the work is academic in nature.

    The Polytech, in comparison is more like practical stuff like engineering and practical stuff.. like apprenticeships and pre apprenticeship work that you learn the basic practical skills in an area and field.

    Universities have sports branches teaching sports coaching and training and fitness and there are university sports teams, but they don't make millions of dollars and AFAIK are not fully professional.

    The local games are local, it is regional games that are professional AFAIK and they don't have regional university teams.
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    Post  kvs Sat Nov 02, 2024 5:39 am



    The end times are near.

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    Post  PhSt Mon Nov 04, 2024 7:05 pm

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    Post  kvs Mon Nov 04, 2024 9:46 pm



    Software technology prime for the idiocracy. Fake trash reality is what is just so badly needed. Escape into fart bubbles of delusion instead of dealing with
    reality. Social media has already ushered in the era of circle-jerk clubs where people spend their time wallowing in what they want to hear and see. This
    is mental regression enabled by technology.

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    Post  higurashihougi Tue Nov 05, 2024 2:23 am

    kvs wrote:Software technology prime for the idiocracy.   Fake trash reality is what is just so badly needed.   Escape into fart bubbles of delusion instead of dealing with reality.
    They are selling opium to the masses. Just like how organizations like Vatican selling the tickets to Heaven in the past.

    If you can't get nice chicks or luxurious houses in real life then you will get it in animanga and artificial illusions, and hence it become huge profitable business.

    One stone hit two birds. You can distract people from social issues and also you can make money from selling spiritual opium.

    Escapism media, like religion, is the inevitable results of the problems in our society.

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    Post  higurashihougi Yesterday at 6:52 pm

    @kvs:

    https://www.business-standard.com/companies/news/here-s-how-google-spent-15-years-in-creating-a-culture-of-concealment-124112001347_1.html


    Here's how Google spent 15 years in creating a culture of concealment

    Firm told employees to destroy messages, avoid certain words and copy lawyers as often as possible to avoid antitrust suits


    In late 2008, as Google faced antitrust scrutiny over an advertising deal with its rival Yahoo and confronted lawsuits involving patent, trademark and copyright claims, its executives sent out a confidential memo.
     
    “We believe that information is good,” the executives told employees in the memo. But, they added, government regulators or competitors might seize on words that Google workers casually, thoughtlessly wrote to one another.
     
    To minimise the odds that a lawsuit could flush out comments that might be incriminating, Google said, employees should refrain from speculation and sarcasm and “think twice” before writing one another about “hot topics.” “Don’t comment before you have all the facts,” they were instructed.

    The technology was tweaked, too. The setting for the company’s instant messaging tool was changed to “off the record.” An incautious phrase would be wiped the next day.
     
    The memo became the first salvo in a 15-year campaign by Google to make deletion the default in its internal communications. Even as the internet giant stored the world’s information, it created an office culture that tried to minimise its own. Among its tools: using legal privilege as an all-purpose shield and imposing restraints on its own technology, all while continually warning that loose lips could sink even the most successful corporation.
     
    How Google developed this distrustful culture was pieced together from hundreds of documents and exhibits, as well as witness testimony, in three antitrust trials against the Silicon Valley company over the last year. The plaintiffs — Epic Games in one case, the Department of Justice in the other two — were trying to establish monopoly behavior, which required them to look through emails, memos and instant messages from hundreds of Google engineers and executives.

    The exhibits and testimony showed that Google took numerous steps to keep a lid on internal communications. It encouraged employees to put “attorney-client privileged” on documents and to always add a Google lawyer to the list of recipients, even if no legal questions were involved and the lawyer never responded. Companies anticipating litigation are required to preserve documents. But Google exempted instant messaging from automatic legal holds. If workers were involved in a lawsuit, it was up to them to turn their chat history on. From the evidence in the trials, few did. Google is far from the only company trying to keep newer forms of communication out of the courtroom. As instant messages and text messages have become popular office tools, corporations and regulators have increasingly clashed over how the missives can be used in court.
     
    In August, the Federal Trade Commission, which is suing to stop a $25 billion supermarket merger between Albertsons and Kroger, said several Albertsons executives had demonstrated “a pervasive practice” of deleting business-related text messages in defiance of legal requirements to keep them. Some of these texts, the FTC argued, suggested that at least one executive thought prices might increase as a result of the merger. The judge said Albertsons “failed to take reasonable steps” to preserve the messages, but did not punish the chain. Albertsons declined to comment.
     
    In April, the FTC said in a legal filing as part of its antitrust case against Amazon that company executives had used the disappearing message tool Signal to discuss competition issues, even after they were required to keep all communications in the case.
     
    Amazon said the assertions that it had destroyed information were “baseless and irresponsible.” But Google has faced the broadest
    criticism for its actions, with the judges in all three antitrust cases chastising the company for its communications practices.
     
    In a statement, Google said it took “seriously our obligations to preserve and produce relevant documents. We have for years responded to inquiries and litigation, and we educate our employees about legal privilege.”

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