Russian special military operation in Ukraine #53

thegopnik wrote:Putin could have talked about the maiden massacre, the biolabs, more in depth about the treaty being broken multiple times and ethnic cleansing to happen in Crimea because the interview would generate over 100 million views soon on twitter by tomorrow, but instead he goes on a 30 minute warhammer lore about russias history and how ukraine is an artificial state in which the west wouldn't care enough to continue supplying ukraine but if he addressed some other things about the war that could have sparked more protests to the west for western leaders to take action against Ukraine then further support it.

Nobody in the West will protest over Ukraine, especially over conspiracy theories like biolabs

And nobody there gives a shit about Maidan or ethnic cleansing of Russians

You need to do this from fiscal angle, nothing else works

Watching the interview, halfway through.
So I guess we can consider that official.
Putin was persuaded to withdraw the army from Kiev under the pressure of France and Germany.
Both argued that a peace deal being brokered in Istanbul would look bad if considered from the perspective of holding a gun at Kiev's head.
Putin would never say that, addressing directly Edyp and Leberwurst, not having hard proofs on hand.
And he did that multiple times in the interview, suggesting Tucker confront his words by asking his counterparts back home.

ALAMO wrote:Watching the interview, halfway through.
Putin was persuaded to withdraw the army from Kiev under the pressure of France and Germany.

Putin got fooled again? How many times is that now?

lyle6 wrote:Fooling Putler is like fooling your dad. We're laughing now but that shits coming out of your college fund my boy.

This thing seems much more than that.
Keep in mind the difference in phases of the 2014 coup.

The first one was brokered by Europeans. France, Germany and Poland.
And they fukin' agreed!
Things were resolved at that point. Early elections that Yanuk would have not won, even if took part in. Which he would not, as that was a part of a deal.
It was only after fuk the EU! happened.
CIA ignited a bloody part of a coup that was already resolved by political means, because it was not about resolving it.
It was about bloodbathing from the very beginning.
Europe was not dancing with nazis there, it was Anglosaxons who did.
Because this war is a war against the EU same time.

By April 22, the EU position was quite reasonable - it was fear that the west walked a step too far.
Tons of voices were raised all around about how it should be stopped.
To take a step or two back, calm down, sit and talk. There was even talking about a need for common, Euro-Russian safety.
Putin had perfectly zero grounds to consider EU betrayal. Especially considering that by now, everyone in the EU having a drop of oil in the head should already know that the Anglosaxons are trying to steer Europe into a conflict.

Arrow wrote:

https://x.com/squatsons/status/1755908752572580136?s=20

In bakhmut, syrsky burned his reserves by sending them into Andreevka and Klesheevka crumple zones

He established a foothold on the flanks, but the end result, was ultimately losing his reserves and losing the territory as well

That was then, Bakhmut was headed by Wagner and the flanks were covered by VDV , although numbers weren't that high

Today, the situation is very different, both Avdeevka and the flanking "crumple zones" have more manpower than Bakhmut did

At the same time, 115th special forces is.... a Wagner unit

IMO, should Syrsky send reserves to try to unblock Avdeevka, it will just result in massive casualties to lose the city and the flanking positions anyway

The only point why Cocainsky appointed this a#hole in position is the fact that he proved zero political ambitions whatsoever.
Zaluzhny was way too popular, and somehow all the failed actions bumped off him leaving no dirt.

GarryB wrote:page does not exist

Of course it does. Anyway, here is the screen shot and link to the video.

And even if the Storm Shadow was flying at a low altitude it could have been engaged by Pantsir or even Tor. But they failed to.

https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/1754897963820646729?s=20

should Syrsky send reserves to try to unblock Avdeevka

The city isn´t blocked. One side is still open.
A little invitation from the Russian General Staff.

Judging by the reaction of westoids to the Tucker Carlson interview , a nerve has been hit

It seems the Ozempic addicted westoid of the NAFO variety is angry about the history lesson

They don't like history, and they love to partake in Eracism of Russian history, but not only Russia - many other cultures as well

The most unbridled western Eracism is occurring across the board

But it is a very good thing, the mask has dropped and the entire world is watching this

So what good were those Storm Shadows attacking Belbek? What did they do? Nothing. If they did anything we'd have satellite images by now with Ukraine bragging about a successful attack.

Some video showed one crashing in a field?

Maybe due to being shot down by SHORADs after the video was posted? Or EW took it down? Or it hit an empty spot where an AD asset was moved from before it arrived? Or it just failed and fell out of the sky?

Even that Ukrainian domestic ballistic missile attack which made it through Russian AD was better.

dionis wrote:So what good were those Storm Shadows attacking Belbek? What did they do? Nothing. If they did anything we'd have satellite images by now with Ukraine bragging about a successful attack.

Some video showed one crashing in a field?

Maybe due to being shot down by SHORADs after the video was posted? Or EW took it down? Or it hit an empty spot where an AD asset was moved from before it arrived? Or it just failed and fell out of the sky?

Even that Ukrainian domestic ballistic missile attack which made it through Russian AD was better.

It is for westoid consumption

Meanwhile Hezbollah just yeeted settler land

On the one hand, westoids claim the S400 sucks,

On the other Iron Dome got bypassed by Hez rockets

How to reconcile the internal contradiction of NAFOids

You are arguing farts of this "R" retard?

https://responsiblestatecraft.org/zaluzhny-zelensky-ukraine/

Interesting recognition by western think tank, it seems realism is setting in

Summary of points

1. Russia invaded in 2022, with few troops, this is the real reason for Kharkov and Kiev withdrawals - they leave out the Istanbul negotiations but it is fair that they admit it

2. US arguments that if Ukraine had attacked along narrow fronts are flawed and wrong, Satellite intelligence is what hampered any concentration of forces on the front line, he admits that

3. Ukro failure at the counter, was not due to US arguments that Ukraine failed to attack where they told them - Ukraine just didn't have enough manpower or weapons to break Russias defenses

4. He admits Ukraine is out of manpower, and the struggle between Zaluzhny and Zelensky are really a microcosm of the bigger problem

Ukrainian civil society is blaming the military for the failure, when the military told civil servants to expand mobilization, civil society did not want to, as their own sons would have been drafted and sent to grinders

Thats why the mobilization bill is watered down and will not tap into the youngest part of Ukro society

5. Appointing Syrsky will change nothing, Kharkov success was due to few amounts of Russian troops,
However today the situation is reversed, Russia outnumbers Ukraine is every category there is

There will be no successful offensives

6. The average age of Ukro troops are 43 years old, you can't fight a war with that

7. US congress won't agree to more funding/weapons, they are too divided and the political survival of one side depends on denying this aid

8. Euro aid will only keep the economy floating, it is not enough without American support

9. There is Ukrainian sentiment that a negotiation should be made, and more Ukrainians are willing to make peace

10. Due to US insistence that Ukraine would win, Ukro politicians are nailed to the idea that the only possibility for negotiations is that Russia leave its territories, with so many dead, it is impossible to climb down that tree, anything less will be seen as defeat so Ukros are blaming each other now trying to blame it all on something or someone

11. If political unity collapses, Ukrainian statehood will disappear forever, as no negotiations will be possible as there will be no bargaining chip , Russia has no incentive to negotiate anything except for the total exsanguination of Ukraine and the takeover of its military-political structures by the Kremlin

Overall, it seems that more decision makers are arriving at the idea, that it was they who were defeated on the battlefield

Arkanghelsk wrote:https://responsiblestatecraft.org/zaluzhny-zelensky-ukraine/
Interesting recognition by western think tank, it seems realism is setting in
Summary of points
1. Russia invaded in 2022, with few troops,

This one is the most important, as reflects perfectly well the scale of western delusions applied not only to a wide public, but what is more scary - to their own.

It didn't start in 2022.

When Saaka unleashed the "Clear field" operation of ethnical cleansing of South Ossetia, the same song was being played.
How ting, poor Georgia withstands the punches of crazy madmen that will flood them with human waves tactics.
It is 15+ years after, and the western audience still believes that crap.
While in real, Russkie arrived with help charging against much more numerous adversaries, that were already armed&trained up to the teeth by ... surprise surprise... the west!
Saakas army was equipped with everything possible, starting from the Israeli Spyder systems, SIM1 tanks, US based Honeywell/Motorola comm, Colt guns, Ukro made Buk mods - manned by Ukrs, Polish supplied Grom MANPADS and Feniks extended range 122mm Grad missile equivalent reaching 42km.

This music is being played again and again, and won't change.

Russkie should adopt to that, and it is interesting to observe that they finally did.

https://iz.ru/1647353/semen-boikov-roman-kretcul-iuliia-leonova/generalskii-progon-novyi-glavkom-vsu-syrskii-ne-izmenit-khod-svo-v-polzu-kieva
https://regnum.ru/article/3866085 https://regnum.ru/opinion/3866161?utm_campaign=regnum&utm_term=top_opinion

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Putin hinted at the end of the interview

Tucker asked, what about negotiations

Putin replied, I know that they are looking for a way to negotiate

What he left out, was that although they are looking there is no space to do it

They unleashed such a hysterical propaganda, that they are nailed to this idea , of defeating Russia on the battlefield

He insinuates the fate of Ukraine , even though westoids are looking for any possibility to return to dialogue

They just can't

Then it makes sense why Naryshkin says, the fate of Ukraine will be very sad

But if you play stupid games, have yourself a stupid ass prize

He was addressing negotiations multiple times.
None are possible as long as there is Cocainsky presidential decree making any of them lawless.
They can, they are open, but how it can happen if it is against Ukro law?

RTN wrote " ..And even if the Storm Shadow was flying at a low altitude it could have been engaged by Pantsir or even Tor. But they failed to. " I looked at the video . If this is real video and not CGI , and object is real storm- shadow , then problems : ( 1 ) The speed of Storm - shadow is Mach 0.95 , therefore cameraman could not have picked up the sound , and reacted in time  ( reaction time is 7 seconds )  before missile had reached him and allowed him to look back ! ( 2 ) The size of missile very small , unlikely seen by naked eye or through narrow field of view of camera . ( 3 ) Unlikely video leaked by AD unit , because of severe punishment .  If this video is CGI then no problems : ( 1 ) Small size of object , easy to set up on computer , difficult for image analysis software to process the few fake pixels . ( 2 ) Lack of identifying marks on AD vehicles , easy to set up on computer but makes proving a fake easy . ( 3 ) Lack of support vehicles and SHORAD , easy to set up on computer , but again makes proving a fake easy . Therefore a bad fake .

thegopnik wrote:Putin could have talked about the maiden massacre, the biolabs, more in depth about the treaty being broken multiple times and ethnic cleansing to happen in Crimea because the interview would generate over 100 million views soon on twitter by tomorrow, but instead he goes on a 30 minute warhammer lore about russias history and how ukraine is an artificial state in which the west wouldn't care enough to continue supplying ukraine but if he addressed some other things about the war that could have sparked more protests to the west for western leaders to take action against Ukraine then further support it.

I think Russia needs a better leader than the crypto-Ukrainian Putin.

Euro aid will only keep the economy floating, it is not enough without American support

They can´t buy any weapons or ammo with that money, that´s for sure.
If you are stranded in a desert all money of the world won´t help you if you run out of water.

The only thing they can do with that money is bribe officials in the west and in the regions of Banderaland.
To keep the course, so to say.

NAFO is getting wrecked inside of their own reddit threads now lmao

They're all panicking hahahahahaha

One of their threads is what happens if Russia wins the war

This means the grift fest has come to an end

They sound so out of touch with their take on Putins interview

I guess they don't realize that article V doesn't work anymore

Another through the SBU net. This looks like a lot of oil related product going up.

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New aid packages for Ukraine from Lithuania, Norway and Finland

- Norway : 10 launchers and 4 NASAMS air defense control points worth $250 million.
- Finland : military aid package worth €190 million, composition not published for security reasons.
- Lithuania : equipment necessary for the winter season and tens of thousands of sets of warm clothing.