Trump assassination attempt

Video from the event shows that Secret Service snipers were already pointing their rifles at the shooter, but didn’t see him getting into position? But then eliminated him within seconds after he fired?

Also the bullet fired by the assassin would have ripped Trump's ear, but it just managed a scratch?

Sujoy wrote:Video from the event shows that Secret Service snipers were already pointing their rifles at the shooter, but didn’t see him getting into position? But then eliminated him within seconds after he fired?

Also the bullet fired by the assassin would have ripped Trump's ear, but it just managed a scratch?

1. They might have been pointing the guns in his general direction but he was protected by a slanted roof, it basically shielded him from view until he popped his head out, they didn't know he was there until he went to try and line up the shot, he could see the sniper team from where he was, so in panic he just fired quickly and then they killed him.

2. No they didn't see, only civilians saw who told some local cops who seemed to ignore it, why I don't know again, there are a few reasons they where looking in that direction, commotion attracting their attention etc, as people where waving trying to warn them.

3. The building he was on was outside the perimeter, granted it shouldn't have been it was a perfect elevated angle, it should have been secured. Which again goes into the SS Sniper Team couldn't notice him until he peaked out because he was more elevated then them with cover

Mistakes where for sure made here no doubt, the SS did make errors so did the cops, but the sniper team acted correctly. But its been decades since something like this happened in the states so chances are some people just got a bit to careless.

But mistakes do not mean the CIA wanted him dead, Trump even has president cannot touch them, they have no reason to want him dead. He has never even done anything to harm or said anything to give the CIA reasons for that.

Long story this isnt some deep state propaganda thing, just a guy who wanted another guy dead and mistakes made gave him the chance to do.

Looking at the shooter - the whatever is likely from the LGBTWTF woke brigade.

God Saved Trump - But Not America, by Pëtr Akopov for RiaNovosti. 07.14.2024.

The assassination attempt on Donald Trump is surprising only because it happened on July 13, and not earlier — a year, three or eight years ago. The upstart, who challenged not only the majority of the American establishment, but also the "Washington swamp" as such, has been risking his head all these years. Having appeared like a jack-in-the-box during the 2015 election race, he broke the entire game of the "deep state" that had prepared the ground for the victory of Democrat Hillary Clinton (or, at worst, some systemic Republican, such as Bush III). The non-systemic and even anti-systemic nature of the billionaire showman, his Napoleonic plans to drain the "Washington swamp" found a warm response in the deep American people and made him president in 2016.

It is clear that the "swamp" are now kicking themselves for not having thought of killing Trump before November 2016 - they underestimated the threat and did not believe in the reality of his victory. Having become president, Trump was practically blocked by them at the government and congressional level - but plans for his physical elimination were probably already being discussed more than seriously at that time. Yes, it is difficult to kill a sitting president - but for all four years of Trump's presidency, the possibility of a successful assassination attempt was not zero. One could even say that the absence of assassination attempts (there were several prevented preparations - generally not serious) on Trump in 2017-2020 was surprising. Having become the ex-president, Trump did not go into the shadows - he not only believed that the elections were rigged, but also promised to return to the White House.

And if at first he was again not taken very seriously, then in the last two years - and especially the year - it has become clear that Donald cannot be stopped. Not by the courts, not by the media campaign, nothing: he is confidently heading for victory in the rematch. After the recent debates with Biden, many Democrats were convinced of this, facing a very difficult choice: to keep Biden and lose - or to replace Biden with the risk of increasing the likelihood of defeat? There is only one way out of this impasse for the "Washington swamp" - to eliminate Trump.

Yes, this is not a 100% guarantee of Biden's re-election - instead of Trump, a popular Trumpist Republican could be nominated, who, on the wave of indignation over the murder of the former president, will still win in November. But any Trumpist, even the most radical one, will be much weaker and more negotiable than Trump - that is, ultimately acceptable to the "Washington swamp".

Thus, the "kill Trump" scenario becomes the preferred, if not virtually uncontested, scenario for the "Washington swamp."

However, on Saturday, at a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, it was not a "deep state" agent who shot Trump, but 20-year-old Thomas Matthew Crooks. Eight shots from a semi-automatic rifle at a distance of 130 meters is a lot and very dangerous. Trump was incredibly lucky - only one of the bullets grazed his right ear. A couple of centimeters separated him from death. And America from upheaval - with the beginning of mass riots and clashes between opposing camps? God saved Trump - and America?

Yes and no. Trump is certainly lucky, but we have only seen the first act of the drama. Trump has long been used to scare Americans, and it is no surprise that an unbalanced guy decided to eliminate the "threat to America and democracy." It is not even surprising that the secret services discovered the shooter too late (the sniper eliminated Crooks after he had fired the shots): although Trump is protected by the presidential secret service, its competence should not be overestimated. The assassination attempt in Butler was the work of a lone wolf, not a Democrat conspiracy (or Trump's suicide). Yes, it was a consequence of the atmosphere of hatred towards Trump, which the Democrats have been stoking with all their might for eight years, but you can't pin the atmosphere to the case.

But the main thing is that everything is just beginning. To paraphrase Chekhov (if there is a gun hanging on the wall in the first act of a play, it must go off in the second or third act - and if it does not go off, it should not be hanging there), we can say that in the play about President Trump, the gun was not just hanging on the wall from the very beginning - the intrigue was based on when exactly it would be used. But the AR-15 rifle that Crooks fired from was not hanging on the wall, but was brought in by a member of the audience, a lone initiator. And this attempt is an unplanned impromptu, an interference in the author's (collective) plan (conspiracy). The main weapon is still hanging on the wall - and there is no doubt that its owner will soon emerge from the "Washington swamp" on stage.

Trump needs to be more than just careful - he is now in the situation of a man whose sentence has long been passed and can be carried out at any moment. Only a miracle can save him - as partly happened on July 13. Although next time the preparation and execution of the assassination attempt will be as professional as possible.

https://ria.ru/20240714/tramp-1959589675.html

Backman wrote:

https://x.com/baronitaigas/status/1812520433419264372

And? This means they had a potential lead they where looking into it doesn't mean they are tracking him 24/7 etc

Also where are you getting the notion the CIA was tracking him? because some post said "authorities" that could mean literally anything

These tin foil hat stuff is funny, omg A LADDER that so means the CIA was behind it....not like you can go to a store and buy a ladder.....not at all only the CIA has access to such high level technology., he didn't clearly PLAN to do it and brought the tools he would need that can't be the case

This building was OUTSIDE the perimeter meaning, no one was guarding it, he brought it with him

Backman wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:These tin foil hat stuff is funny, omg A LADDER that so means the CIA was behind it....not like you can go to a store and buy a ladder.....not at all, naw only the CIA has access to such high level technology

I agree that the ladder in isolation doesn't seem like anything at all.

But does the shooter look to you like an industrious and resourceful guy ? Let me help you with that. He doesn't. He looks mentally ill.

Getting a properly set up and loaded AR15, getting it through security. Having an egress set up to the roof presumably days before. It takes more time and resources than you think. Then you need to find someone that is either too mentally ill to realize that they are on a suicide mission. Or someone who's willing to die.

OKIE So I have said this two times already, apparently you don't want to read. Lets TRY again.

The position the shooter took, meaning he was at, in, using.

Was OUTSIDE the security PERIMETER The SS set up MEANING, he didn't need to be searched, or checked or ANYTHING else Because THERE WAS NO POLICE OR SS there.

In otherwords you either misunderstood language or are lying and ignoring information to fit your narrative.

kvs wrote:I guess they US deep state could not arrange for the patsy to be a distraction like with Oswald.   So they tried to have this clown make the kill shot
which he did not have the ability to do.   He got close but failed.   A pro would not have missed at this range.

They're out to humiliate and demoralize, not create martyrs that invigorate a movement. Has to be a freak that pulls the trigger.

I think the Kennedy assassination is the reference point.   If they can't get some clown to pull the trigger at close range (e.g. Colosio's murder in Mexico), then they
need a grassy knoll setup.   It is now obvious that this clown was given every chance and had the infrastructure provided.   They expected him to succeed.  So the US
deep state is slipping.   Must be the DEI rot.

I am listening to all the nonsense from the US right how they would be proceeding along just fine if Trump was successfully offed. They are delusional. Trump's son or
anyone else would not seamlessly pick up and run to the finish line. The idea that righteous indignation gives a movement wings is not supported by any real history.
Maybe if the conditions were such that losing the leader did not stop the momentum. But the woke rot in the US is afflicting the minds of most Americans. The
resistance on the right is not organized enough to have such momentum. They don't even fully control the Republican Party and Fox News is part of the rest of the
MSM whore collective. The only ones "organized" are the social media fringe who are irrelevant.

That the roof used by the shooter had no SS is an obvious set up.   They had at least two side by side on the roof behind the podium.   They could have had one of
these agents on this roof.   The excuse that they could not get a line of sight on the shooter is absurd.   That is why you have an agent on that roof.   People were reporting
the shooter climbing on the roof to the police which resulted in no response.   This is yet more proof of set up.   The cops are supper quick to show up at domestic "violence"
locations and start shooting.   But they can't get their shit together at a venue where their one job is to respond to security breaches.  Yeah, right.

There were one continuous stream of bullets . About 9 in total . They say the first three belonged to the shooter and the rest to security ! This is about right , one bullet grazing Trump's Ear , the next killing a man and another hitting woman in arm . They claim that security was not aware of shooter's presence , they could not see him as he was behind slanted Roof . And as he popped up his head to take aim , then they shot him !

But remember , there was no gap between the stream of bullets . Scientists tell us that it takes 15 seconds for the brain to process the information provided by our eyes . That is , we only recognise what we see , 15 seconds after we see an object . That is assuming that security saw immediately the shooter , as he popped his head up . It takes longer still for us to respond to mental recognition of an image ! Even if security saw immediately and processed at maximum speed of 15 seconds and responded with Cat like reflexes , then there should at least be 15 seconds gap , between the shooter and security firing their rounds .

There were one continuous stream of bullets , this means that security had the shooter in their sights , allowing him to take a shot , and only then shooting back with an accurate kill shot , which must have been aimed and zeroed on target . It is the little things that give them away ! Did he carry the ladder on the day , without being noticed ? ......highly unlikely too .


https://studyfinds.org/brain-lives-15-seconds-in-the-past/

Scientists tell us that it takes 15 seconds for the brain to process the information provided by our eyes .

Bullshit... no sports would be possible if it took 15 seconds to process what your eyes see... imagine being a batsman that can't do anything about a ball thrown or bowled or pitched at him till after 15 seconds of processing with you brain....

We would all be dead.

The fact that the roof the dick head was on was out of sight was a bloody good reason for it to be able to be viewed from other angles to make sure no one was there.

Imagine if someone had used a FPV drone... especially one supplied to the Ukraine by the US taxpayer...

I am guessing that 15 is actually 1.5. If you are surprised by something, it takes training to react fast. If you are not trained, then you are like the deer in the
headlights. The nerve impulse time is fast (not computer fast, but a fraction of a second) but the brain engagement is a different issue and aside from basic
instincts is not all that fast.

We had other mass shooting events where people stand around dazed and are not even ducking for cover.

Anyway, if the bullets from both the shooter and the SS were fired off without interruption in a sequence, then that is evidence of a set up. There should have
been a noticeable gap. If they were alerted to the shooter after the first shot (which is their fecking job), then there should have been overlapped shots. If
they were trying to find his location, they would not be seamlessly following up with their own shots.

Talking about FPV drones, you would think that the SS would operate at least one to scope out all the locations as standard procedure. They would not have some
BS excuse that they did not see the shooter (when the rally public saw him getting into position with a rifle).

Yes , but I think the situations are different . We are not talking about clay pigeon shooting . Here the observer " knows , " what to expect and where the target is and has no moral dilemma about " hurting , " the clay pigeon . Therefore the cycle of observation and identification and action becomes shorter . But even here , from the " pull, " command to the shot is a three second gap .

The situation here is more like waking up at night and hearing sounds in the house and not knowing who is making the sounds . Is it an intruder with a knife or your Son ? You don't know and can not shoot until you are sure , when you turn the lights on ! You then take a few seconds deciding who it is and then a few more seconds deciding if you have to shoot or not !

So I stand by what I say , there should have been definitely a gap between the shots , and there were none ! The target was identified and visible long before the shooter opened fire . It then became like clay pigeon shooting ! Fast !

It is not like they don't have money to spend... each party is spending 50 million plus on these campaigns, you would think a drone or two would be sensible precaution for such things... especially when Biden is getting desperate and asking his followers to eliminate Trump from the race...

Wonderful thing plausible deniability... but now of course even the beggar of kiev is denouncing shooting his enemies... because obviously any link to him and it is all over... just a day or two after a top guy in the Ukraine secret service was talking about capping Putin to fix Kievs problems.

Ironically with Putin gone I would guess whoever took over would take it as a green light to solve the problem of the Ukraine fast as possible and would likely include using nukes if they are going to be assassinating Russian presidents.

Indian newspapers on the assassination attempt

Backman wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

Backman wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:These tin foil hat stuff is funny, omg A LADDER that so means the CIA was behind it....not like you can go to a store and buy a ladder.....not at all, naw only the CIA has access to such high level technology

I agree that the ladder in isolation doesn't seem like anything at all.

But does the shooter look to you like an industrious and resourceful guy ? Let me help you with that. He doesn't. He looks mentally ill.

Getting a properly set up and loaded AR15, getting it through security. Having an egress set up to the roof presumably days before. It takes more time and resources than you think. Then you need to find someone that is either too mentally ill to realize that they are on a suicide mission. Or someone who's willing to die.

OKIE So I have said this two times already, apparently you don't want to read. Lets TRY again.

The position the shooter took, meaning he was at, in, using.

Was OUTSIDE the security PERIMETER The SS set up MEANING, he didn't need to be searched, or checked or ANYTHING else Because THERE WAS NO POLICE OR SS there.

In otherwords you either misunderstood language or are lying and ignoring information to fit your narrative.

This is exactly the excuse that the SS is using at the moment. "Outside of our perimeter bruh!" Rooftop within AR15 with iron sites range is outside their perimeter.

Yes and that is where the negiliance comes in.

You do not know what your talking about, this is a prime example of what I mean when I say Bias and hatred makes people blind, in this case your bias and hatred of the US Gov.

150m is a shot you can teach someone to make within five minutes 10/10 with an AR15, Hell I could teach you in three

if the CIA really was behind this they would have made sure the guy can hit that shot.

At about 150m at ground level you can expect your deviation from the target to be at best two inches the the average head is a bit wider then that, wind speed and what not really don't even lay a factor at that point unless its very strong winds but that day the winds where normal, meaning he didn't need to account for wind speed.

Fun fact in marine core basic at week two you are required to make a 200m shot without indicators.

The fact this guy missed the shot, is a clear example the CIA wasn't behind it, because it would be childs play for them to ensure the guy got the four minute training he would need.