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    Post  Hole Fri Dec 06, 2024 9:36 pm

    Don´t forget the Martian air force
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    lol1

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    Post  caveat emptor Fri Dec 06, 2024 10:09 pm

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    Post  GarryB Sat Dec 07, 2024 6:14 am

    We are talking not only about the second visit t o Russia by Tucker, who was considered as a candidate for Trump's vice president at some point ...
    An interview with Lavrov, made in English, will again push Russian perspective in front of the eyes of millions of US citizens.

    That is because the west knows that Putin is not going to fold like so many here think he will... Putin holds all the cards and is winning... he is not going to agree that it is a draw and everyone gets their stake already bet back...

    The west has to basically reveal all the criminality of the Zelensky regime and how Bandera was a nazi collaborator and all the war crimes from Ukraines troops were real when we said they were fake and the vast majority of Russian war crimes were fakes and no real at all, because otherwise how is Trump going to explain to the west how the reality of the final peace is going to be so much different from Zelenskys solution he has been talking about all these years...

    Lavrov might explain it better to the west but again... who cares.... why should Putin care what the west thinks of him... they have essentially been an enemy the last 24 years... either actively or passively... he will work with anyone but I think the idea of partnership and friendship with the west has sailed.

    In fact I would say it is the demonisation by the west that makes the rest of the world realise Russia is strong and Putin is strong and the west fears them... even though he wanted cooperation and all he got back was lectures and sanctions and actually creating proxy forces to murder people for speaking Russian.

    Russia wont get the assets back, but they can use that to get western owned assets in Russia back to the same or similar value, which actually helps root out western influence and ownership inside Russia which makes them stronger too.

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    Post  ucmvulcan Sat Dec 07, 2024 7:24 am

    Hole, per what I gather the Russians have now enlisted Kodos and Kang to lead their new air assaults. Kent Brockman of Eye on Springfield is reporting that Putin is placing Sideshow Bob in charge of Russian ground forces.

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    Post  Hole Sat Dec 07, 2024 10:14 am

    Sideshow Bob in charge of Russian ground forces.
    Good, as long as there are no rakes lying around the command post. lol1

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    Post  ALAMO Sat Dec 07, 2024 10:21 am

    Post #452, for no Russian speaker :

    I was just filming weddings, I swear! Never worked for khokhols!

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    Post  flamming_python Sat Dec 07, 2024 10:21 am

    https://t.me/Slavyangrad/114826

    Reddit users spotted a hilarious flop on the BBC news. Business Today presenter Michelle Flory, thinking the microphone was off, said to the entire studio while the background was playing: "If we talk about Ukraine again today, I swear I'll fucking shoot myself."

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    Post  LMFS Sat Dec 07, 2024 11:04 am

    Re. Trump and Deep State, it is clear that this particular flavor of supremacists that is coming to power with the orange one is focused on baiting Russia out of their alliance with China, and they will offer them some pat on the back, with absolutely nothing of substance, in exchange. Incredibly, these idiots think they are going somewhere with this stunt, which has been predicted ages ago. China is crucial for Russia, indeed, but the inverse is even more true. Together they form an autonomous core which is unassailable for the West and they know it, no chance for two non-traitor leaders at the helm in both countries to change course.

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    Post  franco Sat Dec 07, 2024 12:48 pm

    According to the Russian Defense Ministry, the total losses of the Armed Forces in all directions from August 6 to December 6 this year amounted to about 270.4 thousand soldiers killed and wounded. The Ukrainian military also lost 1,217 tanks during this time.

    At the same time, in the Kursk region, enemy losses amounted to 38.4 thousand people and 232 tanks.

    Thus, the agency notes, every seventh serviceman of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and every fifth Ukrainian tank were lost by Kiev as a result of an attempted invasion of the Kursk region.

    https://rg.ru/2024/12/07/tass-vsu-teriaiut-v-kurskoj-oblasti-kazhdogo-sedmogo-bojca-i-kazhdyj-piatyj-tank.html

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    Post  kvs Sat Dec 07, 2024 2:05 pm

    It looks to me like the Kiev regime has expended fully its fourth army since the start of the SMO. Their first army had the highest quality and
    it has been a slide downward with every new iteration. I think we have reached the collapse stage for Kiev. The NATzO west is scrambling.

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Dec 07, 2024 7:20 pm

    The US give up the Ukraine gravy train?Note the dates. Laughing Laughing Laughing Trump will just spin it differently.


    Elon Musk's SpaceX has signed a contract with the Pentagon to expand Ukraine's access to a more secure version of the Starlink high-speed satellite communications network, Bloomberg reported.

    According to the agency, under the contract, 2,500 of Kiev's existing Starlink terminals will have access to Starshield, a secret and encrypted signal that is harder to hack or jam. So far, only 500 terminals in Ukraine have had access to it.

    In total, we are talking about servicing 3,000 terminals under two contracts, the U.S. Space Command specified. The services will be available in 2025.

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    Post  Kiko Sat Dec 07, 2024 8:30 pm

    Former SBU Colonel Reports Operational Encirclement of Ukrainian Armed Forces Near Kurakhovo, by Vera Basilia for VZGLYAD. 12.07.2024.

    Former SBU Colonel Starikov: Ukrainian Armed Forces units numbering up to three brigades are surrounded near Kurakhovo.

    Units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine numbering up to three brigades have found themselves in operational encirclement near Kurakhovo in the Donetsk People's Republic, said retired Colonel of the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) Oleg Starikov.

    According to Starikov, the battles near Kurakhovo are among the most intense, and if the encirclement is not broken out in time, the situation could develop into a cauldron, TASS reports .

    In turn, the Russian Ministry of Defense also reported that active military operations are underway in the Kurakhovo area. According to the Russian department, the Southern Group of Forces defeated formations of two mechanized, airmobile and airborne assault brigades of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. The battles are taking place in the areas of the settlements of Ulakly, Kurakhovo, Nikolaevka and Dachnoye. As a result of repelling two counterattacks by the enemy's assault units, the Ukrainian Armed Forces lost up to 325 servicemen.

    Earlier, the head of the commission on sovereignty, patriotic projects and support for veterans of the Public Chamber, Vladimir Rogov, stated that Russian troops had advanced 500 meters south from Starye Terny to the Zaporizhia-Kurakhove highway.

    Previously, it was reported that Russian troops had surrounded Kurakhovo in the west of the DPR, controlling the approaches from several sides, and were continuing to encircle the city, where fighting was taking place in the central and southern regions.

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    Post  lyle6 Sun Dec 08, 2024 1:10 am

    The hohols are always terrified of operational encirclements. Nigga you're facing 10:1 odds in artillery and airpower with at least 3:1 odds in armor - your faces melt on contact all the same.

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    Post  flamming_python Sun Dec 08, 2024 7:11 am

    Take it as you will

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    Post  GarryB Sun Dec 08, 2024 8:09 am

    China is crucial for Russia, indeed, but the inverse is even more true.

    The actions of the US and the EU show themselves time and time again to be unfeeling monsters that simply cannot be trusted.

    No agreements are possible, simply because next elections the replacements might just tear any agreement up.

    Putin will understand concessions are not appreciated by the west... in fact they expect them... and Russia has no reason to concede anything to anyone.

    Take it as you will

    That will never be shown in western media... it does no fit with their agenda and is therefore Russian propaganda and also fake news.

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    Post  kvs Sun Dec 08, 2024 1:56 pm

    There is no doubt that the Kiev regime commits atrocities against civilians. It started doing this 2014 and there are real mass graves found. Not
    the dead KLA KIA graves yapped up in 1999 in Serbia. The nazi puppets of NATzO in Ukria think that terror against civilians will help them in their
    ethnic war. This is why the SBU and everyone associated with the Kiev regime needs to be destroyed. They are vermin. I am sure that
    NATzO will be wailing about the "crime against humanity" but NATzO can keep f*cking itself. It is all that it can do.

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Dec 08, 2024 5:39 pm

    Nothing to do with a reaction to a Hazel Laughing but will it pass and be signed by Biden?

    A bill introduced into the U.S. House of Representatives by Rep. Clay Higgins (R-LA) would prohibit the U.S. from sending long-range ATACMS missiles to Ukraine to be fired into Russia. As U.S. personnel and satellites are required to fire the missiles from Ukrainian territory, Moscow considers it a direct U.S. attack on Russia putting it in a state of war with the U.S. which could lead to nuclear conflict. To remove the potential of nuclear war, the proposed legislation seeks to end ATACMS launches into Russia. The bill reads:

        (a) Prohibition.—For the period beginning on the date of the enactment of this Act and ending at the close of January 20, 2025, notwithstanding any other provision of law, during any period for which a state of conflict exists between Ukraine and the Russian Federation—

        1) no Army Tactical Missile Systems (ATACMS) may be transferred to Ukraine; and

        (2) U.S. Military Services or intelligence agencies may not provide support to Ukrainian units operating High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HMARS) platforms utilizing ATACMS munitions to strike outside of internationally recognized Ukrainian territorial borders—

        (A) targeting intelligence support;

        (B) mission planning support; and

        (C) any other type of support.

    Several members of Congress and their staff said they were taken off guard by President Joe Biden’s reversal of his previous decision not to allow the use of ATACMS to be fired into Russia from Ukraine.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-bill-would-reverse-atacms-order

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    Post  franco Sun Dec 08, 2024 9:19 pm

    The press secretary of the Russian president Dmitry Peskov stated that the Russian Federation is ready to cease fire along the entire front line at any moment. At the same time, according to Peskov, Russia will do this only under certain conditions.

    These conditions are as follows:

    - Ukraine must withdraw its troops from the territory of all subjects of the Russian Federation, including the Donbass republics, the Kherson and Zaporizhia regions.
    - Ukraine must also recognize the DPR, the LPR, the Kherson and Zaporizhia regions, Crimea and Sevastopol as the territory of the Russian Federation.
    - Another condition is that Kiev must refuse to join NATO.


    Let us recall that earlier the Kremlin stated that negotiations could not begin if the Ukrainian Armed Forces remained in the Kursk region.

    The day before, our troops drove the enemy beyond the Psel River, liberating Plekhovo.

    It is also worth recalling that after a meeting with Trump in Paris, Zelensky said that he rejected the points of Donald Trump's plan to achieve peace. And among these points is Ukraine's renunciation of territories and a moratorium on joining the North Atlantic military bloc.

    https://topwar-ru.translate.goog/255321-peskov-oboznachil-uslovija-prekraschenija-ognja-rossijskoj-armiej.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Sun Dec 08, 2024 10:47 pm

    How stupid can Russia be, please? If there is even one remaining Ukraine, it will end the same as Syria did yesterday, and Moscow will fall just as undefended in 10 or 15 years.

    The only possible solution is a few provinces in the west which could remain as Ukraine but then immediately with NATO membership. So from there, proxy Nazis can never ignite again just like that, because the reaction against NATO takes place immediately.

    But this rest is likely to be only in the Far West.

    Nevertheless, there should be a change in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia. The negotiations only bring disadvantages which later cost much more lives. At some point we have to put an end to this softgame of Russia.

    No proxy regions on Russia's borders!
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    Post  flamming_python Sun Dec 08, 2024 11:33 pm

    How stupid can Russia be, please? If there is even one remaining Ukraine, it will end the same as Syria did yesterday, and Moscow will fall just as undefended in 10 or 15 years.

    The only possible solution is a few provinces in the west which could remain as Ukraine but then immediately with NATO membership. So from there, proxy Nazis can never ignite again just like that, because the reaction against NATO takes place immediately.

    But this rest is likely to be only in the Far West.

    Nevertheless, there should be a change in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia. The negotiations only bring disadvantages which later cost much more lives. At some point we have to put an end to this softgame of Russia.

    No proxy regions on Russia's borders!

    What are you complaining about now?

    Trump called for a ceasefire immediately

    So Russia reminded him of their conditions for a ceasefire immediately. No more and no less than it always was

    Although yes since Zelensky went nukey a month ago, I doubt Russia will take any chances. This statement is just for show as Moscow knows that it will be rejected regardless. In reality no Zelensky or any of this shit will be allowed to continue breathing there. That's the 'secret appendix' to Russia's "peace formula"; if Zelensky had one then Russia must too.

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    Post  Firebird Sun Dec 08, 2024 11:54 pm

    So no deNazification, no demilitarisation.
    No liberation of Kharkov, Odessa, Dnipropetrosk, Kiev etc?

    Erm sounds like complete AIDS.
    Does Putin want a coup in Russia and then go and ask for asylum in Syria? 🙄
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    Post  calripson Sun Dec 08, 2024 11:58 pm

    Have you been in a coma for the past 38 years?

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