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    Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Fri May 29, 2020 1:52 pm

    dino00 wrote:Dry air: Defense Ministry to purchase an improved version of the Su-34

    Until 2027, it is planned to supply 76 of the latest modernized bombers


    Good, this will load the plant in Novosibirsk (NAPO) for those years!
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    Post  Singular_Transform Fri May 29, 2020 8:51 pm

    dino00 wrote:

    In order to equip the updated bomber as part of the Sych development work, three replaceable hanging containers with reconnaissance equipment are being developed. They significantly exceed the capabilities of the embedded equipment and should give the aircraft a qualitatively new ability to detect targets.

    A variant of the container with the designation UKR-RT is intended for electronic reconnaissance, UKR-OE for optoelectronic, and UKR-RL for radar. They all use a single data bus to interact with the aircraft.Suspended equipment will give the Su-34 the ability to detect the work of radars and radio stations over hundreds of kilometers, as well as determine their coordinates. With the UKR-RL container, the bomber will be able to “see” at any time of the day, even through dense clouds.[/size]

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    https://iz.ru/1016971/anton-lavrov-roman-kretcul/sukhoi-vozdukh-minoborony-zakupit-su-34-usovershenstvovannoi-versii


    Looks like it will be mini AWACS, with single crew.


    More fit for this job than the F35 .
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    Post  Hole Fri May 29, 2020 9:07 pm

    The radar pod is for recon.

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    Post  Isos Fri May 29, 2020 11:41 pm

    It's more a RWR than a radar. It's for having a picture of radar coverage,  jamming and SEAD operations. I guess the datalink btw aircraft will allow to share and coordinate automatically the jamming of radars by another su34 equiped with the big central jammer. This one on the picture can work pretty far away safely as passive radars like this one have two time the range of the radar they are detecting.

    The most interesting should be the UKR-RT as it is for ELINT operation so it will allow detection of datalinks and communication and if it is sophisticated enough, it should allow to detect exact position of the emmiter (no traking just a detection when it's active). Some sort of early warning against low flying fighters and stealth fighters.

    The other two are just updated technologies. UKR-RT technology was never used on such plane. Usually they use big planes like boieng P-8 or tupolevs...
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    Post  GarryB Sat May 30, 2020 8:09 am

    The UKR-RT looks like it is effectively a side looking radar so similar to some of the systems on JSTARS... more focused on ground targets than air targets, but a ground radar view is 24/7 and weather independent... so would provide a useful view of the battlefield without needing to fly over it all the time.
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    Post  dino00 Sat May 30, 2020 10:16 am

    Russian Ministry of Defense in June will receive the last four Su-34 bombers under the existing contract - source

    Moscow. May 30. INTERFAX - In June, it is planned to transfer to the RF Ministry of Defense the last four Su-34 bombers under the current contract of 2012, a source in the military-industrial complex told Interfax.
    Under the current contract with the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, four aircraft remain to be delivered for 92 Su-34 aircraft. It is planned that they will be handed over during June,” the source said.
    On the eve it became known that in early June it is expected to sign a new major contract for the supply of a modernized version of the Su-34 to the Russian Aerospace Forces (VKS).
    "It is expected that a new serial contract with the Russian Defense Ministry for 76 modernized Su-34M bombers will be signed in the very near future - most likely next week," the agency’s source said
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    https://www.militarynews.ru/story.asp?rid=1&nid=532663&lang=RU
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    Post  dino00 Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:06 pm

    Russia’s top brass inks deal on 20 Su-34 frontline bombers

    The contract involves standard Su-34 aircraft with certain alterations based on the experience of the operation of several dozen bombers of this type earlier purchased for the troops, according to a TASS source in the domestic defense industry

    MOSCOW, June 8. /TASS/. Russia’s Defense Ministry has signed a three-year contract on receiving about 20 Sukhoi Su-34 frontline bombers, a source in the domestic defense industry told TASS on Monday.

    "Last week, a contract was signed between the Defense Ministry and the Sukhoi Aircraft Company on building about 20 Su-34 frontline bombers," the source said.

    The contract involves standard Su-34 aircraft with certain alterations based on the experience of the operation of several dozen bombers of this type earlier purchased for the troops, the source said.

    A contract on the purchase of upgraded Su-34M planes "is expected to be signed in 2021," the source added.


    https://tass.com/defense/1165443
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    Post  George1 Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:05 am

    So 20 more Su-34 before Su-34Ms
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    Post  dino00 Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:13 am

    George1 wrote:So 20 more Su-34 before Su-34Ms

    About 20 from the NVO type with 3 new containers and the Syrian experience, and the others ~56 from the M version, that's what I interpret.
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    Post  marcellogo Tue Jun 09, 2020 2:55 am

    dino00 wrote:
    George1 wrote:So 20 more Su-34 before Su-34Ms

    About 20 from the NVO type with 3 new containers and the Syrian experience, and the others ~56 from the M version, that's what I interpret.

    Probably, because the first one would be surely be concluded before 2023, so it would be included into this (already ongoing) framework while the remaining part would go into the following one i.e. 2027.
    And probably it would be the first one batch to go without recon containers, as they are till testing them but didn't want to wait.
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    Post  medo Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:47 am

    dino00 wrote:
    George1 wrote:So 20 more Su-34 before Su-34Ms

    About 20 from the NVO type with 3 new containers and the Syrian experience, and the others ~56 from the M version, that's what I interpret.

    You could be correct. But I hope they will sign for 76 M version in first batch + another batch. Buying only 56 of new version is not economical and RuAF for sure need more of deeply upgraded ones, specially as they will get new or deeply modernized radar although even existing one is very capable.
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    Post  mnztr Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:43 pm

    medo wrote:

    You could be correct. But I hope they will sign for 76 M version in first batch + another batch. Buying only 56 of new version is not economical and RuAF for sure need more of deeply upgraded ones, specially as they will get new or deeply modernized radar although even existing one is very capable.

    Won't they upgrade the existing fleet?
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    Post  marcellogo Tue Jun 09, 2020 5:25 pm

    medo wrote:
    dino00 wrote:
    George1 wrote:So 20 more Su-34 before Su-34Ms

    About 20 from the NVO type with 3 new containers and the Syrian experience, and the others ~56 from the M version, that's what I interpret.

    You could be correct. But I hope they will sign for 76 M version in first batch + another batch. Buying only 56 of new version is not economical and RuAF for sure need more of deeply upgraded ones, specially as they will get new or deeply modernized radar although even existing one is very capable.
    They will, it would either be the second batch of 2027 framework or it will go to the 2032 framework.

    Given that they will deliver the last four of the current batch this month, I 'll expect that they are already modifying the assembly line and so would begin produce the new version from 2021.
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    Post  dino00 Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:12 pm

    The Ministry of Defense intends to upgrade its Su-34

    The military department is considering the modernization of the Su-34 bombers fleet. Representatives of the early series released at the turn of the 2010s can become candidates . When improving combat vehicles, experience gained both in Syria and those obtained during normal daily operation should be taken into account


    The issue of modernizing a part of the Su-34 bomber fleet is currently being worked out, sources in the military-industrial complex told Izvestia. We study the number of machines that may fall under the new program, as well as the amount of necessary work. After that, they will decide on the advisability of concluding a new contract for modernization . It can become an addition to the two existing contracts for new aircraft of this type, according to which it is planned to manufacture about a hundred more shock machines.

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    Post  GarryB Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:35 am

    During the operational life of most military equipment they will occasionally need overhauls of engines or airframes or avionics where old equipment is just replaced with newer stuff.

    Sometimes the performance doesn't change a lot because it might be replacing 5.25 inch floppy disk drives with a 3.5 inch floppy just meant they were smaller and not that much faster, but sometimes the change is dramatic... replacing a 3.5 inch floppy with a CD drive is an enormous change in performance and a DVD drive is equally a huge step up in capacity, but replacing the drive with a USB port is more of a change because as USB pendrives get bigger capacity the system can use the bigger capacity without needing actual hardware upgrades. Of course over time you do upgrade.... USB 1 to USB-2 and now USB-3 or eSATA offers enormous amounts of data going in or coming out rather quickly and of course wifi networks allowing updates in flight or on the runway...

    Upgrading the hardware actually makes it simpler to operate and maintain as well as improving performance improving commonality amongst the aircraft in the fleet is also of benefit too.

    Of course some upgrades are not critical... sometimes the upgrade might be in the self defence EW area so not every aircraft might need it... it might be an upgrade package that allows the aircraft to carry an ESM pod that can protect the entire flight of aircraft the plane in question is operating with. Equally it could be jammer equipment or SEAD equipment that not all the aircraft will need... but might eventually receive as an upgrade to make it flexible later on to choose which aircraft performs which roles on a mission.
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    Post  George1 Tue Jun 16, 2020 12:25 am

    BetAB-500 from Su-34

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:53 am

    Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News - Page 36 Alfa10

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    Post  Cyberspec Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:41 am

    Very interesting, Alfa anti-ship missile...don't remember ever hearing anything about this before
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    Post  TheArmenian Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:51 pm

    Old project. It was never put in service.
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    Post  George1 Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:54 pm

    is that from a recent article/page? because project "alpha" antiship missile was the predecessor of kalibr in 90s:
    http://www.airwar.ru/weapon/pkr/alpha.html

    and also Su-32FN was supposed to be a dedicated maritime strike fighter (and even an ASW one together)
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:41 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:Old project. It was never put in service.

    Indeed an hold over from the disaster of the 90's decade, and been greatly superseded by other more promising AshM's since then.
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    Post  mnztr Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:05 am

    Vid of navlised SU-34 prototype testing on carrier

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:29 am

    That's Su-27KUB, a training jet; the Su-34 has canards & its nose is different.


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    Post  Cyberspec Fri Jul 17, 2020 1:24 am

    First Su-34M has been handed over to the Airforce Very Happy

    The upgraded su-34 bomber has joined the combat staff of the ZVO aviation regiment in the Voronezh region
    https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12302334@egNews

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