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Il-112V/Il-212 light military transport
Hole- Posts : 11122
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Re: Il-112V/Il-212 light military transport
Hole- Posts : 11122
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- Post n°127
Re: Il-112V/Il-212 light military transport
wilhelm- Posts : 348
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- Post n°128
Re: Il-112V/Il-212 light military transport
Any news?
AMCXXL- Posts : 1018
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- Post n°129
Re: Il-112V/Il-212 light military transport
These are the specifications that they must now test with the prototypes
The first prototype could have a bit of overweight that must be corrected in following aircraft
Anyway, it seems the airplane is a lillte "fat" than An-26, and the performance is a little worst in this moment
The wingspan (27.6m) and the wing surface (65m2) are also smaller in the IL-112V than in the An-26
Both the maximum takeoff weight (21 t.) and the maximum payload (5 t.) are somewhat lower than in the An-26, despite "on the paper" the engines have 25% more power (3500 hp compared to 2800hp)
There are still engineering problems to be solved in the coming years
It is unlikely that the Il-112V will enter the troops before 4 or 5 years.
The fleet of An-26 and An-72 is being repaired for keep in operation several more years
Hole- Posts : 11122
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- Post n°130
Re: Il-112V/Il-212 light military transport
But the Il-112V will be faster and have a much greater range with the same payload as the An-26.
LMFS- Posts : 5166
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- Post n°131
Re: Il-112V/Il-212 light military transport
Second prototype is ready for static tests at TsAGI
https/tvzvezda.ru/news/opk/content/2019271719-q2LdR.html
https/tvzvezda.ru/news/opk/content/2019271719-q2LdR.html
PapaDragon- Posts : 13472
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- Post n°132
Re: Il-112V/Il-212 light military transport
Hole wrote:But the Il-112V will be faster and have a much greater range with the same payload as the An-26.
Yeah, nearly three times the range and 30% less fuel consumption, compared to that slightly smaller payload is nothing.
They might has well send it in production now.
Isos- Posts : 11602
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- Post n°133
Re: Il-112V/Il-212 light military transport
Hole wrote:But the Il-112V will be faster and have a much greater range with the same payload as the An-26.
Comparing with much older airplanes is useless.
A comparison with western or chinese analogues would be better.
GarryB- Posts : 40548
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- Post n°134
Re: Il-112V/Il-212 light military transport
And it is Russian so they can export it and fully support it without any ones permission or agreement...
GarryB- Posts : 40548
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- Post n°135
Re: Il-112V/Il-212 light military transport
A comparison with western or chinese analogues would be better.
Bullshit... this isn't a game where the biggest is the best.
They need to analyse their use of An-26 aircraft and work out what they really want... they might find they never actually used the full payload capacity of the An-26, or it might not have been long enough or wide enough, or it might not have had the capacity to operate from some airfields they wanted it to operate from for this or that reason.
Making it faster and longer ranged and make it use less fuel sounds like fairly useful features to me, and along with being an all Russian product it sounds like it ticks all the important boxes to me.
Especially if there was an error in design and there is further potential to improve performance in some areas yet...
GunshipDemocracy- Posts : 6171
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- Post n°136
Re: Il-112V/Il-212 light military transport
PapaDragon wrote:Hole wrote:But the Il-112V will be faster and have a much greater range with the same payload as the An-26.
Yeah, nearly three times the range and 30% less fuel consumption, compared to that slightly smaller payload is nothing.
They might has well send it in production now.
Simply all ruggedness and usability comes from operations' feedback, you cannot design a perfect aircraft without iterations of prototype - test - improve.
GarryB wrote:A comparison with western or chinese analogues would be better.
Bullshit... this isn't a game where the biggest is the best.
I have the longest bolls and chicks dig it !
Isos- Posts : 11602
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- Post n°137
Re: Il-112V/Il-212 light military transport
GarryB wrote:A comparison with western or chinese analogues would be better.
Bullshit... this isn't a game where the biggest is the best.
They need to analyse their use of An-26 aircraft and work out what they really want... they might find they never actually used the full payload capacity of the An-26, or it might not have been long enough or wide enough, or it might not have had the capacity to operate from some airfields they wanted it to operate from for this or that reason.
Making it faster and longer ranged and make it use less fuel sounds like fairly useful features to me, and along with being an all Russian product it sounds like it ticks all the important boxes to me.
Especially if there was an error in design and there is further potential to improve performance in some areas yet...
An-26 was made for the huge soviet army. Modern russian army is no different than western armies. Less people but better reaction time/training... more professional.
So comparing with western light cargo isn't bullshit at all.
GarryB- Posts : 40548
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- Post n°138
Re: Il-112V/Il-212 light military transport
These are transports for up to 5-6 ton loads... the Russian military has been mostly mechanised for a much longer period than any NATO force... what sort of use in the overall scheme of things will the Il-112V be in moving a Russian military force in the future?
Delivering ammo, or mail or food or water?
Would it be critical moving men without their vehicles... it really does not have the capacity to move vehicles without the men except for very very light units operating on four wheel motor bikes.
For force mobility you are looking at the very least at a 20 ton payload capacity aircraft like an Il-276 or larger... otherwise rail and ship make much more sense...
Having the same capability as the west means nothing... the west has an invasion force for imperial conquest and occupation... how could the Russians benefit from having that?
The An-26 fills a size position in their transport range... it replaced the related An-24, but was also found wanting in some hot and high roles so the An-32 was also developed to perform in places where the An-26 was not so good.
The stuff the Il-112V will be carting around will be almost exactly the same as what the An-26 is carting around now, so having a faster aircraft that burns less fuel is a good improvement... but the critical thing is that it is Russian.
Even if its specs were worse it would still be a good replacement for the Soviet An-26 because it is Russian.
Delivering ammo, or mail or food or water?
Would it be critical moving men without their vehicles... it really does not have the capacity to move vehicles without the men except for very very light units operating on four wheel motor bikes.
For force mobility you are looking at the very least at a 20 ton payload capacity aircraft like an Il-276 or larger... otherwise rail and ship make much more sense...
Having the same capability as the west means nothing... the west has an invasion force for imperial conquest and occupation... how could the Russians benefit from having that?
The An-26 fills a size position in their transport range... it replaced the related An-24, but was also found wanting in some hot and high roles so the An-32 was also developed to perform in places where the An-26 was not so good.
The stuff the Il-112V will be carting around will be almost exactly the same as what the An-26 is carting around now, so having a faster aircraft that burns less fuel is a good improvement... but the critical thing is that it is Russian.
Even if its specs were worse it would still be a good replacement for the Soviet An-26 because it is Russian.
dino00- Posts : 1677
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- Post n°139
Re: Il-112V/Il-212 light military transport
Source: Il-112V's first flight will take place in late March - early April
Problems with the rotors of the engines are fully resolved, assured the source TASS
MOSCOW, March 21. / TASS /. The first flight of the Russian Il-112B Russian military transport aircraft will take place in late March - early April, “everything is ready for this,” a source in the defense industry told Tass.
"It is planned that the first flight of the Il-112V will take place in the near future: literally at the end of March - beginning of April, the plane should take off, for this purpose everything is ready," said the agency interlocutor. He added that "the problems with the rotors of the engines were completely resolved," because of which the Il-112B could not take to the air in January.
Another source in the defense industry told TASS that now at VASO in Voronezh, where the Il-112B will take off, preparatory work is going on "almost around the clock, seven days a week." "Experts drive the aircraft engines, check the performance of all its systems, run high-speed runs on the runway of the enterprise," he said.
The interlocutor added that in the first flight the Il-112B will accompany the An-26. "It will go in parallel, at the same height and speed, for the verification of the operating parameters of various systems," the source said.
https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/6241351
Problems with the rotors of the engines are fully resolved, assured the source TASS
MOSCOW, March 21. / TASS /. The first flight of the Russian Il-112B Russian military transport aircraft will take place in late March - early April, “everything is ready for this,” a source in the defense industry told Tass.
"It is planned that the first flight of the Il-112V will take place in the near future: literally at the end of March - beginning of April, the plane should take off, for this purpose everything is ready," said the agency interlocutor. He added that "the problems with the rotors of the engines were completely resolved," because of which the Il-112B could not take to the air in January.
Another source in the defense industry told TASS that now at VASO in Voronezh, where the Il-112B will take off, preparatory work is going on "almost around the clock, seven days a week." "Experts drive the aircraft engines, check the performance of all its systems, run high-speed runs on the runway of the enterprise," he said.
The interlocutor added that in the first flight the Il-112B will accompany the An-26. "It will go in parallel, at the same height and speed, for the verification of the operating parameters of various systems," the source said.
https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/6241351
George1- Posts : 18523
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- Post n°140
Re: Il-112V/Il-212 light military transport
Excellent news!!
dino00- Posts : 1677
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- Post n°141
Re: Il-112V/Il-212 light military transport
Source: the first flight of a new military transport Il-112B is scheduled for March 30
Interlocutor TASS noted that the flight should take place in the morning
VORONEZH, March 29th. / TASS /. The first flight of the Il-112B military transport plane is scheduled for Saturday, March 30, a source in the military-industrial complex told TASS on Friday.
"The first flight of the Il-112V is scheduled for Saturday, approximately it will take place in the morning: if everything is good, it will be at 9 am. But much will depend on the weather," the agency’s source said.
He added that, depending on weather conditions, it is possible to adjust the time of the first IL-112V launch. "What will be the wind, rain or not, for this on Friday at 17:00 Moscow time a clarification will be made, and then another clarification on Saturday morning," he said.
https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/6273737
Tomorrow morning safe flight
Interlocutor TASS noted that the flight should take place in the morning
VORONEZH, March 29th. / TASS /. The first flight of the Il-112B military transport plane is scheduled for Saturday, March 30, a source in the military-industrial complex told TASS on Friday.
"The first flight of the Il-112V is scheduled for Saturday, approximately it will take place in the morning: if everything is good, it will be at 9 am. But much will depend on the weather," the agency’s source said.
He added that, depending on weather conditions, it is possible to adjust the time of the first IL-112V launch. "What will be the wind, rain or not, for this on Friday at 17:00 Moscow time a clarification will be made, and then another clarification on Saturday morning," he said.
https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/6273737
Tomorrow morning safe flight
Hole- Posts : 11122
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Re: Il-112V/Il-212 light military transport
Isos- Posts : 11602
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Re: Il-112V/Il-212 light military transport
https://www.instagram.com/p/BvoNoOVHbaY/
It's flying
It's flying
LMFS- Posts : 5166
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- Post n°144
Re: Il-112V/Il-212 light military transport
Great! I was not sure that the "fatty" was going to make it!
New prototypes should be better!
New prototypes should be better!
ult- Posts : 837
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Re: Il-112V/Il-212 light military transport
Austin- Posts : 7617
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Il-112V light military transport
The first flight of a light military transport aircraft Il-112V
Isos- Posts : 11602
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Re: Il-112V/Il-212 light military transport
LMFS wrote:Great! I was not sure that the "fatty" was going to make it!
New prototypes should be better!
It's really a fat plane for its size.
George1- Posts : 18523
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- Post n°148
Re: Il-112V/Il-212 light military transport
ult wrote:
PJSC "United Aircraft Corporation" wrote:The Il-112B light military transport aircraft made the first flight today from the runway of the aerodrome of the VASO aviation plant.
The plane was piloted by the crew of the Ilyushin chief pilot Nikolai Kuimov. The flight was in normal mode. The Ilyushin IL-114LL flying laboratory accompanied Il-112V in the air.
In the future, Il-112B is meaned to replace the An-26 transport aircraft in Russian Air Force.
Hole- Posts : 11122
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PapaDragon- Posts : 13472
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- Post n°150
Re: Il-112V/Il-212 light military transport
Good to see it in the air where it belongs
Now on to Il-276