Russian Intelligence Services: News & Discussion

Kommersant is the source?

I would wait till non yellow journalism reports it and not citing kommersant.

miketheterrible wrote:Kommersant is the source?

I would wait till non yellow journalism reports it and not citing kommersant.

I tend to agree but it is interesting that RT picked up on it. Hoping for the best.

Something definitely happened

Hopefully this was result of process of supervising staff so they caught it in time and nothing big left the house

It would definitely be idiotic to not keep staff working on something like this under close supervision and surveillance

But given how clumsy the whole thing is unfolding it's just as possible that they simply let them communicate with whomever they wanted without anyone keeping tabs on them

Big_Gazza wrote:I wonder what they will do if they find they have another Adolph Tolkachev in the house? Russia doesn't do capital punishment anymore, but life imprisonment and a diet of cockroaches doesn't seem adequate....

Trivialities

What matters is that they find him/them, it's paramount

As for what comes later don't worry about it and Google "Black Dolphin" (way worse than death and inferior only to Japanese prison)

RT isn't necessarily bastion of honesty all the time either.

I doubt anything huge got leaked.  After what happened in the past, majority of these are broken down between groups so that not 1 person excluding manager has access to all data.  It would be rather easy to boil down who leaked what.  The rest would be rather unimportant because it is little details that would have been leaked.

Sucks that it happened if true, but these days, they have precautions in place.  We do here for sure and I know for fact.

What they will do is put everyone under heavy watch and limit their movement until investigation is over. I imagine someone is going to lose their job, even if they are technically innocent too (that would be upper manager), which is a common practice. But since they are still going head with the development and procurement of the Avangard, guarantee the leak was very minimal. But still unfortunate. The act is being treated as treason, which comes as a very harsh punishment in Russia.

https://vpk.name/news/221976_utechka_dannyih_o_rossiiskom_giperzvukovom_oruzhii_glavnoe.html

Or its just a trick to let the other side think the data they got is real.

Hole wrote:Or its just a trick to let the other side think the data they got is real.

Maybe,, maybe not.

What are the contents that are leaked?
How much was leaked?
Which system exactly?

How I see it is that if it was very sensitive, they would halt production of any kind of such hypersonic system, make adjustments (subtle or not), enough to make the leak pointless - See MiG-31's defector and how they made adjustments to the radar that made the information gained pointless.

Since they are going ahead with production, means what was leaked isn't detrimental. But the leak is a problem and someone will end up getting arrested for it.

http://tass.com/science/1014427

Someone was arrested and they suspect 9 more.

A Spy who is caught is better than a spy who is not caught , So good job FSB of catching these spies and hopefully they can plug this leak for good and fix what got leaked.

I remember reading 2 Professor associated with Bulava program was caught spying for CHinese and they were subsequently imprisoned

Russia DIDN'T hack German election' - new report DISPELS reports of Putin meddling

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/993893/Russia-German-election-Merkel

Still the report claims that most russians are evil hackers. Coming to you from the same department that stood by and watched as a few nazis killed ten people (maybe even more) in Germany.

Claim they are white helmets and send them to France.

Something really strange and bad ,happens to Austria . the major ally in EUrope ,Russia had ,
is now accusing Russia of spying on Austria for 20 years.. and instead of consulting things through
Diplomatic channels , made it public in the media.. and is now speaking of major meeting with EU ,
to find the next step to follow ,how to deal with Russia after this "unpleasant surprise".




Putin "the Wise" told that sports promote good relations , i don't see any good relations
between Europe and Russia , if even the closest allies of Russia ,is using the media to demonize
Putin and Russia..  Russia spent near $ 65,000,000,000 billion dollars ,hosting pointless olympics,
in trying to promote good relations with Europe , to advertise the image of Russia ,and all that money
was a total waste .. it did nothing . zero . to promote any good relations.. americans actually found a way
to use the vents to discredit Russia of cheating in the results and Russia got humiliated with the banning
of many players.. Putin strategy to counter the west.. was all about modernizing the military and nothing else.
For sure US and UK pressured Austria to invent the story they told.  blackmail. perhaps with sanctions on Austria if not cooperate with them..


This is Russia biggest problem.. the #1 problem .. is not ISIS ,is not terrorism.. or the 5th column..in no the central bank or Traitors.  and is neither NATO. the major problem is Putin/Russia lack of influence and leadership in the world. something Russia could have done ,had it created its own System ,and not allowed US to lead the world ,in most important areas of  development. In things nobody could do before.. and makes nations to stand above all others.

and things like this will happen over and over and over.. Russia accused of Criminal behavior or hacking or cheating or receiving sanctions left ,center and right .. and Russian bases attacked.. and Russian military planes will continue to fall because the west and its allies does not respect Russia. So the question is how can Russia earn respect back.. the answer is ,it will not be begging or crying.or praising or being polite ,.or promoting sports ,
as Putin have done. Putin's Russia will only earn Respect ,when start to offer a real alternative to the American system and their leading business. and take the lead in space.

https://youtu.be/ipsdUrmCdVI

Bat cave.

dino00 wrote:https://youtu.be/ipsdUrmCdVI

Very good report..

So the U.S economic sanctions on Japan.. by unintentional reasons ,
ended helping Russia , after the japanese divert their attention to Americans..
after originally they intended to invade the far east of Russia.

Something that allowed soviets send major reinforcements from the east
to the western front. and tipped the tide of the war.