Russian Intelligence Services: News & Discussion

GarryB wrote:The OPCW should consist of experts who actually know the facts... like this chemical is Soviet developed... not Russian... I am sure several Scottish members here would object to being called English... which would be the same thing.

Russia inherited all the weapons of mass destruction of the USSR. It was responsible for disposing of chemical weapons stocks of the
USSR. So what the hell are you going on about. Your point is a total non sequitur to what I wrote.

Most of the people who developed it fled to the west in the 1990s anyway.

This should be a good test anyway... are the OPCW an organisation that can be trusted to be impartial, or are they western stooges that rubber stamp what they are told to rubber stamp.

The point is that neither the USSR nor Russia had any NovickokS stocks since it was never anything more than an experimentation project as
stated by the actual people involved. The OPCW never oversaw the destruction of any Novichok agents.

What would have happened is some of the intel of West or Ukraine would have siphoned of samples of Novichok due the bad days of 90's and they would have preserved it and experimented on it.

Now they used it on the ex-Spy during Putins new term to spoil the relation between EU and Russia as a whole for the next 6 years , UK and US intel ops well executed.

Russian intel would have little incentive to kill the ex-Spy if he was that important they would not have exchanged him 10 years back , he is of zero value to Russian intel today much less valuable enough to kill him with some CW substance.

THis is certainly BlackOps by Mi6 and CIA aided by Baltic and Ukraine Intel

Austin wrote:What would have happened is some of the intel of West or Ukraine would have siphoned of samples of Novichok due the bad days of 90's and they would have preserved it and experimented on it.

Now they used it on the ex-Spy during Putins new term to spoil the relation between EU and Russia as a whole for the next 6 years , UK and US intel ops well executed.

Russian intel would have little incentive to kill the ex-Spy if he was that important they would not have exchanged him 10 years back , he is of zero value to Russian intel today much less valuable enough to kill him with some CW substance.

THis is certainly BlackOps by Mi6 and CIA aided by Baltic and Ukraine Intel

It doesn't seem that the UK or any other Western country has a nerve agent that can be precisely and unequivocally pointed as have been produced in Russia, otherwise the official UK communication wouldn't use the strange wording "of a type developed by Russia", as Craig Murray notices:
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/03/of-a-type-developed-by-liars/

Who cares what those ball tamperers say...

I suspect between today and tommorow US and EU countries some say 20 of them will expel diplomats , this should be bad for new term beginning for Putin , Who would have expected UK to try this dark PR and be sucessful yet they are.

Russia now needs to seriously work its strategy dealing with US , UK and some EU states specially baltic , So far Russian reaction has been with kid glove and the Central Bank has been appeasing the West buying their Bonds

Good Questions some one needs to answer this

30 Questions That Journalists Should Be Asking About The Skripal Case

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-25/30-questions-journalists-should-be-asking-about-skripal-case

Sad that UK could convince France and Germany , I think OPCW would also agree eventually

Modern politics... more important to support your friends than to actually be right.

Nothing to do with truth and justice and all about bullies supporting each other...

Russia inherited all the weapons of mass destruction of the USSR. It was responsible for disposing of chemical weapons stocks of the
USSR. So what the hell are you going on about. Your point is a total non sequitur to what I wrote.

This stuff was supposed to be produced in Kazakhstan, not Russia, but as it was never actually produced no chemical stocks were moved to Russia, and no stocks were destroyed... there was nothing to destroy.

And if this material was used anywhere on the planet in an attack the OPCW should have been the first agency contacted... not some side show where May demands Putin fess up or else by high noon tomorrow.

The Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons deals with Chem weapon attacks, and investigates crimes committed with chem weapons.

If the OPCW is truly unbiased they should get to the bottom of the case rather more effectively and quickly than the British authorities who are likely being pushed hard from above to find a Russian Hacker link.

Of course if they are not then perhaps Putin should restart all those chem and bio weapons programmes again because if they are biased then they are likely ignoring western transgressions as well.

The point is that neither the USSR nor Russia had any NovickokS stocks since it was never anything more than an experimentation project as
stated by the actual people involved. The OPCW never oversaw the destruction of any Novichok agents.

The OPCW already know that, but western reporters are not asking them such questions because they don't want to hear an answer that points suspicion away from Russia.

That is also likely why the UK did not immediately get the OPCW involved because they don't want to hear the truth.

Of course the real question remains... will they tell the real truth or will they slant it like the US intel agencies do... ie we have investigated the so called crime of Russia interfering in US elections and we have found no actual evidence, but we know the Russians are bad and they did something anyway... type verdict...

What would have happened is some of the intel of West or Ukraine would have siphoned of samples of Novichok due the bad days of 90's and they would have preserved it and experimented on it.

All the information was released to the west in the 1990s and most of the specialists working on these sorts of things defected to the west in the 1990s too... no doubt they didn't get jobs building roads or washing cars... they continued their work in the west... the UK, the US, Sweden, the Netherlands, any of which could have produced the toxin agent used.

The fact that the "attack" happened within 10km or Porton Down, the UK location for such warfare development is suspicious... yet never mentioned by so called western reporters... sadly journalism in the west is now a joke.

I suspect between today and tommorow US and EU countries some say 20 of them will expel diplomats , this should be bad for new term beginning for Putin , Who would have expected UK to try this dark PR and be sucessful yet they are.

What are you talking about?

This gives Russia an ideal opportunity to get rid of an equal number of western spies from its cities... this is a good thing... the less ties between Russia and the west the better.

The lure of the west is that they have money, but the reality is that they got that money by ripping off their clients, and screwing their workers, and they certainly wont just give it away. If anything they will end up making more money than their partners... so who wants to be a partner to these crooks.

Companies in Asia and central and south america and africa are crying out to do business... do you want to make the west stronger and give them more strings to pull to keep Russia in line or do you want trading partners that share the wealth of your endevours... and open up large markets for your products that you wont need to hide the made in Russia stickers on to get sales...

Russia now needs to seriously work its strategy dealing with US , UK and some EU states specially baltic , So far Russian reaction has been with kid glove and the Central Bank has been appeasing the West buying their Bonds

Russia should turn its back on the US and UK and some EU states especially the baltic states... they don't want to be friends and they don't want to play fair... they think Russia is the bad guy and that is not going to change while Russia is getting stronger... if you want the situation to improve sell all Russian assets and land to rich Americans and rich Germans for a very cheap price and reduce funding of your military to 5 billion a year and they will be your best friends... and Russia will be their bitch.

The factory was in Usbekistan, not Kasachstan.

The head of the SVR called the expulsion of Russian diplomats from Western countries a "dirty provocation" and promised "an adequate response"

http://militarynews.ru/story.asp?rid=1&nid=477241

03/28/2018 11:15:03

*** According to him, Russia regrets the decision of the "famous group of countries that creates an atmosphere of Russophobia"

Moscow. 28 March. INTERFAX-AVN - Director of the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service Sergei Naryshkin called the deportation of Russian diplomats from Western countries a dirty and cynical provocation.

"First of all, I want to say that, of course, this is a very dirty cynical provocation by a well-known group of countries that simply creates an atmosphere of Russophobia," he said, responding to Interfax's request to comment on the relevant decision of the West.

S. Naryshkin stressed that Russia regrets this decision: "The answer will follow: the answer is adequate, rather tough."

Earlier, more than 25 countries of the world and NATO announced the expulsion of Russian diplomats in connection with the "Skripal case". In total, more than 150 diplomatic workers will return to their homeland. These measures were taken against the background of accusations against Russia of involvement in the poisoning of former Colonel GRU Sergey Skripal and his daughter Julia with the use of a military chemical in the British city of Salisbury in early March 2018. Moscow denies all charges.

McMaster: 'We have failed to impose sufficient costs' on Russia

The head of the SVR: the system of vassal dependence created by the USA gives a failure

https://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201804041133-wf3e.htm

The head of the SVR called the case of the Violins a grotesque provocation by the special services of Britain and the USA

https://russian.rt.com/world/news/499662-svr-skripali-grotesknaya-provokaciya

The head of the Foreign Intelligence Service, Sergei Naryshkin, called the case of the poisoning of ex-colonel GRU Sergei Skripal and his daughter Julia a grotesque provocation, roughly concocted by foreign special services.

As the head of the SVR at the Moscow conference on international security noted, the pressure on the countries in connection with this case was another example of the dictates of Washington and its allies.

"Even in the grotesque provocation with the Violins, roughly concocted by the intelligence services of the United Kingdom and the United States, some European states are not rushing to follow London and Washington recklessly, but prefer to sort out what happened," he said.

Head of FSB: Turkey helped Russia prevent terrorist attack
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Russian special services prevented two terrorist attacks on New Year holidays thanks to information received from the US and Turkey. This was stated by the director of the Russian Federal Security Service, Alexander Bortnikov, during the Moscow conference on international security.
He noted that last year the US timely warned Russia that a terrorist attack was being prepared in St. Petersburg during the New Year holidays.

"At the same time, another attack was prevented thanks to information received from Turkish partners," Bortnikov said.

In December, Russian President Vladimir Putin thanked American leader Donald Trump for information from the CIA, which helped to neutralize the terrorists who were preparing explosions in St. Petersburg.

Austin wrote:The head of the SVR called the case of the Violins a grotesque provocation by the special services of Britain and the USA

Gotta love automatic translators. Took me a while to understand to what Violins it was referring to...

Svyatoslavich wrote:

Austin wrote:The head of the SVR called the case of the Violins a grotesque provocation by the special services of Britain and the USA

Gotta love automatic translators. Took me a while to understand to what Violins it was referring to...

It is not a valid translation. Skripal means "someone who 'skripped'". A violin is a "skripka" so an instrument which is
"skripped". But violin playing is not the unique meaning of "skripping". It can mean scratching as well.

Good reason to use Yandex...

She is UN diplomat for US !

Russia will never be our friend, we’ll slap them when needed’ – US envoy to UN

It is the US ambassador... you can't be right in the head and still do that job... most Americans probably think that way, or at least don't care enough to tell her to act or think any different.

What I want to know is why Russia continues to suck up to these children.

Looks like US is applying pressure on Russia on all fronts and Trump sounds more worse than Obama with John Bolton and Mike Pompey both Russian haters in this team.

For eg US Openly states they want to break Russia relations with India

http://www.business-standard.com/article/economy-policy/us-pacific-command-chief-seeks-to-break-down-russia-s-influence-in-india-118041800963_1.html


Patrushev called for seeking areas of cooperation with foreign states

https://ria.ru/defense_safety/20180420/1519097259.html


I am not sure if Patrushev as NSA has been any good to Russia all he does is blabbers , Not seen any effective policy from him on Sanction or improving relations with other states

Inside the Competitive, Corrupt World of Russian Intelligence

https://www.thecipherbrief.com/inside-competitive-corrupt-world-russian-intelligence

I did not read entire article but I thought it is quite funny that every single quote in the article was from some former CIA functionary. Conspicuous absence of any NSA, DIA, FBI, ONI or any other US intelligence service clearly indicates what agency paid for that article

Yeah, Russia is so corrupt (sais the western politican and puts the bag of money in his pocket)

ZoA wrote:I did not read entire article but I thought it is quite funny that every single quote in the article was from some former CIA functionary. Conspicuous absence of any NSA, DIA, FBI, ONI or any other US intelligence service clearly indicates what agency paid for that article

That is why I posted it , It was was sarcastic post ....its not a paid article more like Propoganda against Russian Intel by CIA state sponsored stuff

Head Of Russia's Foreign Intelligence Service Naryshkin: NATO And The EU Are Obsolete Organizations

https://www.memri.org/reports/head-russias-foreign-intelligence-service-naryshkin-nato-and-eu-are-obsolete-organizations

Russian hypersonic weapon files leaked to West, intel agents seek mole – report

Dozens of employees in the Russian missile industry came under intense scrutiny after the FSB reportedly conducted an all-out search for a mole who leaked top secret files on the newest hypersonic weapons to Western intelligence.

The FSB, Russia’s domestic intelligence agency, believes classified information on top-notch hypersonic projectiles was leaked out of two major research and development centers based in and outside of Moscow. Citing its own intelligence sources, Kommersant newspaper broke the news that an employee with top secret clearance allegedly leaked the data.

Early Friday morning, FSB operatives searched the quarters of TSNIIMASH (the Central Research Institute of Machine Building) and the United Rocket and Space Corporation (URSC), both part of Russian Space Agency Roscosmos, which was involved in the development of hypersonic projects.

The newspaper reported that all of this comes as part of a recent investigation into the leaking of secret files to foreign intelligence services.

The FSB specifically targeted the head of the URSC’s research facility, Dmitry Paison, and conducted a separate search in his office.

A source familiar with the FSB investigation told Kommersant that “it was established that the leak came from TSNIIMASH employees who were in touch with Paison.” He described the inquiry as “unprecedented,” saying one should not expect the agency to be soft on the perpetrator.

“Many heads will roll, it won’t be limited to people being dismissed,” the source said. Later in the day, a Roscosmos spokesman confirmed that FSB searches took place. He added that Dmitry Rogozin, the head of the corporation, directed “our security division to offer maximum support to the investigation.”

Russian hypersonic weapons first came to light after President Vladimir Putin unveiled the futuristic systems during a speech in March. The missiles, some of which are already in service, are said to give Russia an unrivaled deterrent in the future. One was the hypersonic air-launched Kinzhal (dagger) missile, which is able to travel 10 times faster than the speed of sound.

Another is the Avangard (vanguard) hypersonic glider, which is still being tested by the military, while the infrastructure – presumably underground silos – is being tweaked to accommodate the device.
The Russian Defense Ministry released footage of both the Kinzhal and the Avangard. While the latter has only recently entered production, the Kinzhal has been launched numerous times by an air force squadron that has flown over 350 missions involving the missile.

Reports on Russian hypersonic weapons began appearing in the Western media earlier this year. In May, CNBC quoted a source aware of US intelligence reports that claimed the Russian military successfully tested hypersonic weapons twice in 2016. The news piece claimed the third known test of the weapon was carried out in October 2017, but allegedly failed when the device crashed seconds before hitting its target.

In July, CNBC rolled out a similar story, citing an intelligence source again and saying “a Russian missile the US is currently unable to defend against will likely be ready for combat as early as 2020.”

https://www.rt.com/news/433803-russia-hypersonic-missiles-leak/