Islam and terrorism

This is so dumb thread .

No this is not. You fellow Muslims keep expanding in the Philippines. Philippines is a Christian majority country. But Muslim ghettos keep popping up even in the most Christian areas, and the Dawah missions are NON Stop. I've seen photos of Dawah missions even in Christian Schools, in the Police, and in the Military.

MEANWHILE, No Christian missions are allowed in Muslim majority areas, even Bibles are confiscated and prevented from distribution.

So what is the purpose of this? Its simple. MUSLIM EXPANSION with the aim of ISLAMIFICATION of the entire country.

For your information this attack which caused four soldiers were killed was done by "AL Dawlah Islamiya" which has no ties with the Islamic Moro National Liberation Front "MILF" which has a Framework Agreement on the Bangsamoro with the government .

This is BS. You are not from the Philippines, you do not know how ties exist between the different MUSLIM factions in the country. While officially there are no ties between these two ISLAMISTS group, members are bond with family ties. In the end, the mission of all these Islamist groups remain the same, Islamic Expansion and Islamification of the entire country.

So occupying lands and killing its people is not good enough but the occupier should take what ever necessary to stop the land owners from being majority ?

Go back to the year 600s. If the MUSLIM INVADERS didn't expand from Arabia, if you are from Egypt, then most likely you will be Coptic Christian, and you will be commenting in a Different tune!

Christian majority countries become christian by peace and love and forgiveness... all other religions are barbaric and evil.

ISIS has been mentioned but ISIS is a western construct and was created when the US and her Christian allies invaded Iraq and kicked the ruling Baathist party out of power and refused to let them continue in any productive way for the future of Iraq... the same with all the military of Saddams regime.

Did they think they would all become taxi drivers or did they think they would curl up and die.

Whether you liked them or not they were in charge and they ran the place and you make them unemployed together what the **** do you think is going to happen?

But even more importantly, not only did the US and the west create ISIS, they funded them as well because the ISIS threat is why American claims to be in Syria illegally... the new head of the Syrian resistance against its own elected government is an ex ISIS commander so they are openly funding and supporting ISIS.

All of Africa is riddled with terrorism which the colonial west actually encourages because it was their main reason for being there.

As an athiest I could complain about the rules here in New Zealand... why am I limited to one wife and why is she limited to one husband... I might say that the laws in this country are basically christian, but actually the laws are more about inheritance and money than about any religion at all.

Christians speak about forgiveness and tolerance and democracy... but it seems only when it suits them.

As usual it is western propaganda fanning the flames... muslims have lived in peace in Russia and around the world for a rather longer period than the wahhabist nutters have been stirring trouble... as usual it is a few radicals that cause the trouble, but the blame game is just so much fun... most of the KKK are good christians who take their racism directly from books written 2,000 years ago, which are likely actually a collection of stories that are all much older but written to link together into a dramatic single story. Jesus Christ. Quest for Glory. Sadly some idiot put on a Hollywood ending where the hero comes back to life after being killed...

Go back to the year 600s. If the MUSLIM INVADERS didn't expand from Arabia, if you are from Egypt, then most likely you will be Coptic Christian, and you will be commenting in a Different tune!

If is the biggest word in the English language...

People are bad to each other and religion is just the excuse... it is not religion that kills, it is the people following an ideology that do it.

I remember sitting at a wedding listening to the vows and the wife had to promise to stay at home and look after the children and do everything the groom told her to do even if he was wrong.

So religion isn't all bad...

A Jehovahs Witness wedding BTW... but really just a thread... a branch of religion... the men are in charge and the women do as they are told... not many religions where everything is female and females run everything... interesting that isn't it?

Almost like all religions are about power and giving control to the men.

Sunni terror has been one big machination of the US-led west. This includes Israel. Even the fundamentalism trend since the 1960 has been stage managed.
The Saudis, a US client state until last year, have a been the prime tool of spreading this BS through Wahabbism. The Middle East has been messed up thanks to the
cold war, which is still ongoing. This includes Iran, Afghanistan, Yemen, Syria, and Iraq. Egypt has avoided being regime changed. It looks to me like Algeria was
under a subversion attack that it manged to survive.

The mess in the Middle East has spread radical tools of the west to other parts of the world. Some of this is undirected, but some is like ISIS/Daesh a tool for US regime
change games. I don't know enough about the Philippines to categorize the Muslim strife there. Perhaps it is a reaction to the degenerate trends that come together
with development "progress". Perhaps there was government abuse at some stage, like there was in Mexico in Chiapas.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acteal_massacre

Supposedly Mexico did not have the dirty wars of other parts of Latin America, but still we had death squads engaged in mass murder. I don't know, did something
similar happen in the Muslim areas of the Philippines? I am not trying to be an apologist like some woke retard. But spontaneous armed lunacy is not a plausible theory.

Before the Spaniards and later USA took over the Philippines they are not Chirstian majority people, they follow their own beliefs

Indeed, but the problem is that MUSLIMS are also Foreigners who brought their TERRORIST religion to the Philippines. But modern historians are silent about this, and pretend that Islam is a "Native" religion in the country, which it clearly is NOT.

There is no Islamic invasion,

There is, but because Vietnam does not have a sizeable Muslim population, it is hard for you to comprehend because you didn't experience it first hand.

I am not concerned about religious people as long as they do not let their belief turn into superstitions (such as the cults that reject blood transfusions or claim that praying can replace medicine), I am more concerned about wages, living standard, working conditions, and other things that is realistically affect the life quality that any normal humans deserve to enjoy.

All the stuff that you mentioned you are concerned about will ALL be affected once the local Muslim population in your country grows to a significant size and then start DEMANDING that Public money is spent in building Madrasas, how each bank in your country should be Shariah compliant, that foods in stores should be Halal, and then ultimately the minority Muslim population will DEMAND that the Vietnamese people convert to Islam because ancient people of Vietname are actually Muslims, although we know Vietnam has never been invaded by Muslims, Muslims are good in fabricating stories, then anyone who calls them out will get Death threats and even killed.

I will not be complaining about Muslims like this if the Threat they pose is not REAL

Here is a good example of how CREEPING ISLAMISATION works

Country’s first public madrasah opens in Cotabato

COTABATO CITY, BARMM, Philippines — At least 1,500 students trooped to the country’s first public madrasah, or Islamic school, which opened at the newly built four-story building in Barangay Datu Balabaran here on Monday, the first day of classes for all private and government learning institutions nationwide.

Bangsamoro Education Minister Mohagher Iqbal said the madrasah offers core Islamic subjects that includes studies on the Quran, “seerah” (life of the Prophet), hadith (prophetic narrations), “aqeedah” (Islamic creed), “fiqh” (Islamic jurisprudence) and the Arabic language, all of which have been integrated into the Department of Education’s (DepEd) “Matatag” curriculum.


https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1967163/countrys-first-public-madrasah-opens-in-cotabato

So, the Philippines, as mentioned in its constitution, is officially a SECULAR country, and that no public funds are supposed to be used to promote Religion and that the government is NOT supposed to favor any specific Religious group!
But apparent, the Muslims (as a result of extensive lobbying) are exempt from this rule and are even provided with Special Treatment    This is both Pathetic and Disgusting

I blame the Spaniards, the Americans, and the Japanese for letting the opportunity to Exterminate the vermins slip away.

But hope is not yet extinguished, Perhaps Israel can lead the way for the future Endgültige Lösung der muslimischenfrage  

Dont waste Tax payer's money on this vermin. Just bury him alive along with his family. And also Burn his Mosque. End of story.

Creeping ISLAMIZATION is REAL and not just a bunch of so-called Right wing conspiracy theories. This trend has been happening for quite some time now, but its getting worse. Muslims continue to expand their influence and demographics. Both Western, and other Non Muslim countries around the world are under threat.

New York Church to Be Converted Into Mosque

Catholic church in Buffalo, New York, is being converted into a mosque after a Muslim group purchased the property.

The St. Ann Church complex was sold for $250,000 after having been largely out of use since 2012 due to structural damage issues posing a safety threat, according to the Buffalo News. The property was sold to Buffalo Crescent Holdings, which is affiliated with the Downtown Islamic Center, according to the outlet.

The church's sale has sparked backlash on social media after posts by a well-known Catholic priest, Father Ronald Vierling, drew attention to the sale. The posts on X had gained nearly 2 million views at the time of writing.

"St. Anne's Church, Buffalo, NY. Permanently closed. Sold to the Islamic community for $250,000 who are converting the historic church into a mosque," Vierling wrote.

https://www.newsweek.com/new-york-church-mosque-buffalo-1937906

Another good example of Creeping ISLAMIZATION, this time, in the Philippines, many people probably won't bother to pay attention to such development in a small and third-world country like the Philippines, BUT, this is a Good example of how Islamic groups try to Infiltrate Non-Muslim countries, to plant Islam and cement their influence.

Supreme Court boosts Shariah integration in Philippine law

https://globalnation.inquirer.net/234384/supreme-court-boosts-shariah-integration-in-philippine-law

Law creating more Shari’a Judicial Districts, circuit courts signed

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1973079/law-creating-more-sharia-court-judicial-districts

In the case of the Philippines, the Muslim lobby has been successful in persuading the CLUELESS politicians in the country to mix SHARIA LAW in the current Laws in the country, This is Despite the country being officially "Secular" as stated in the constitution. Again, Muslims are able to either Bribe or make Threats to the government to get special privileges, meanwhile the country's Majority Christian population (Around 90%) are POWERLESS and CLUELESS to whats going on. What a SAD piece of garbage country this is. But Western countries are no different, Muslims are provided with special privileges, a good example is the recent incident in the UK, where the police were providing Protection to Muslim rioters who are clashing with Patriotic Brits.


Witnessing such a BRAZEN Islamic takeover, I don't feel any sympathy for the Palestinians, In fact, I sincerely hope that one day non-Muslim countries will emulate the Zionist model for DE-ISLAMIZATION. Before anyone here accuses me of being Islamophobic, perhaps Muslims shouldn't conspire to Rule over us and just F*CK OFF our countries.

Yet they had no opportunity to strike in a fair and good way . Proportionately . They relied on a pathetic individual , a " terrorist , " out of  uniform , to do something . But do not rest in comfort

They may not have the capability to strike at the West or any other non Muslims countries through conventional means, but this is where the Demographic and soft power lobbying comes in, For example, Muslims don't need to strike at London when they are slowly and gradually displacing the local population, eventually, there will be a point in time when Muslims will emerge as the majority population in places they have infested.

So why is the West acting so delirious with regard to the hypothetical threat from Russia or China, when there is a fatal cancer that is growing within their own countries? This makes no sense at all in my point of view.

For the Islamic members here from Egypt and Indonesia, why don't you just LEAVE US ALONE? Stop lobbying our government to pass SHARIA Compliant Laws. We don't want you in our Non Muslim domains. Just Leave already!

Honestly I am not sure how to react to this incident.

So a Swiss Muslim politician is using Christian images as target practice in a shooting range,

But after googling about this certain Sanija Ameti, it doesn't look like she is of the extremist/ fundamentalist type since she don't wear the hijab or any Islamic headdress for women





IMO, as long as a Muslim woman refuses to wear any hijab/headscarf, she is a Normal and completely Sane human being.

She`s defacing our Lord.

What makes you think this bitch isnt cracked in the head?

kvs wrote:Sunni terror has been one big machination of the US-led west.   This includes Israel.   Even the fundamentalism trend since the 1960 has been stage managed.
The Saudis, a US client state until last year, have a been the prime tool of spreading this BS through Wahabbism.    The Middle East has been messed up thanks to the
cold war, which is still ongoing.  This includes Iran, Afghanistan, Yemen, Syria, and Iraq.   Egypt has avoided being regime changed.   It looks to me like Algeria was
under a subversion attack that it manged to survive.  

The mess in the Middle East has spread radical tools of the west to other parts of the world.

Yep, the US came up with the bright idea of supporting and propping up Islamists to counter the rise of Arab nationalism some time in the 50s, and also supported Islamists in Indonesia to counter the communists. The ultimate goal is to use Islamist influence to stir up trouble along the borders of the former Soviet Union and within its territories in Cental Asia where there is a significant Muslim population.

Although, during the time of the Soviets, Most of the population in central Asia have been Secularized, so I may be wrong to call them Muslims, however, the problem with Secularized people is that, when a time comes when the central government collapses, in the case of central Asia, the dissolution of the soviet union, then the secularized population is now susceptible again to influences of religion. And because NATO is in collaboration with Islamic Extremists, Radical Islamic preachers have swamped central Asia right after the collapse of the SU to consolidate Islamic influence in the region.

Back in the mid 2000s, the religious affiliation of the population of Kazakhstan was roughly equal between Christians and Muslims (50% vs 50%), but now, Muslim population is like 69% vs 17% Christians. This is an Abnormal growth on part of the Muslims, this rapid increase in Muslims and sudden decline of Christians can only be possible through a deliberate and sinister campaign to Islamize the entire country! There is no doubt that financing of this campaign has been largely done by NATO as part of their De-Russification project.

Now that Russia has recovered its strength, Russia will need to devise a plan to take back Central Asia from NATO and its Barbaric Muslim squatters. As a gesture of goodwill, Muslim occupants in Central Asia can be given a chance to live like normal Russian citizens by converting to the Russian Orthodox church, changing their names to Russian, and speaking Russian in both public and private places. Yes, there is no other effective solution to solidify Russia's presence in the region but to erase the identity of the Barbarians and replace it with Russian identity. For those who will refuse, simply make them disappear.

kvs wrote: I don't know, did something
similar happen in the Muslim areas of the Philippines?   I am not trying to be an apologist like some woke retard.   But spontaneous armed lunacy is not a plausible theory.

Unfortunately, the Muslim problem in the Philippines dates back to the time of the Spanish, the Spanish did a sloppy job of converting the population of the southern parts of the archipelago to Catholicism. In the late 1500s, Spain was in the process of consolidating its forces to inflict a final blow to Muslim barbarians in the south when rogue Chinese pirates attacked from the north, the Chinese incursion was repelled but after the incident, the Spanish were wary of future attacks from the Chinese, and as a result substantial forces have to remain in the northern island, and no significant campaign to vanquish the Muslims in the south have been carried out after this.

When the Americans arrived to replace the Spanish as the new colonizers, the Americans actually did a good job of killing the Muslims in the South, The Americans had the firepower to slaughter the Muslim barbarians, but the Americans lacked direction. When they defeated the Muslims, the US had No policy to Christianize the defeated enemy, instead, the Americans were quite satisfied with having uncontested control over the Philippines. IMO the Americans made a Huge mistake, they should at least have implemented the strategy they did with the Native Indians on the American mainland, to decimate the Muslim population to near extinction.

There used to be a Catholic Christian counter jihad group called the "Ilaga" that operated in the South some time from the 60s to 90s that regularly fought against Muslim Terrorists. Unfortunately, they don't seem to be active anymore while more Muslim Terrorist groups continue to sprout and the largest Muslim Terrorist group just struck a deal with the Philippine government to hand them over control over a Muslim Autonomous region in exchange for not waging Jihad (AKA Terrorism) against civilians  

lyle6 wrote:
She`s defacing our Lord.

What makes you think this bitch isnt cracked in the head?

It seemed to me that she was making a political statement, but what she did was extremely distasteful. I give her a reduced sentence for not wearing a garbage bag AKA Hijab

higurashihougi wrote:
I challenge you to go and ask Halimah Yacob, the 8th president of Singapore, who is wearing a headscraf in her official picture, about her mental and cognitive ability.

The mere practice of wearing a headscraf is a display of Religious Extremism. I've seen many Muslim women who didn't wear Hijab on a normal day, if these Muslim women can do it, why couldn't HALIMAW? Btw her name translates to Monster in Filipino language.  

higurashihougi wrote:
The level of racism in some member of this forum is getting at unprecedented level.

I don't think criticisms of a Terrorist ideology masquerading as a religion can be classified as Racism, and Muslim/ Islam is not even a race.

Just take a look at the following countries: Greece, Serbia, Russia, China, Thailand, India, Myanmar, East Timor, Philippines, Non-Muslim majority African countries, etc, these counties at some point or up to the present, are PLAGUED with a Muslim problem. So there is your common denominator, Muslims.

Consider yourself lucky that Vietnam hasn't been contaminated (Yet) with this Disease called Islam.

higurashihougi wrote:
Why don't you ask the Singaporeans to see whether their 8th president is an extremist ?

They will probably tell you that you are an extremist.

The act of wearing a Hijab itself is a visual proof of religious extremism, its not like taking it off will expose her Vulva.

Also, asking Singaporeans if their president is an extremist is like asking Ukrainians if Bandera is an extremist, there is no point.

higurashihougi wrote:
And she is not a Filipino.

Why should she adopt a Filipino meaning for her name.

I'm simply stating facts. Also, Malaysians and Vietnamese look down on Filipinos. We will have our revenge.

higurashihougi wrote:
Then the Vatican is a terrorist, criminal organization then ?

I don't recall Russia, China, Myanmar, Thailand, India, Serbia, East Timor, and many African countries as having security problems because of Catholicistic Terrorists.

higurashihougi wrote:
Islam is not a race

Therefore its Not RACE-ism

higurashihougi wrote:
We have 26000 orthodox Islam Muslim and 45000 syncretic Bani Muslims and they are nice people.

This is not a significant number, try making Muslims at least 5% to 10% of your country's population and you will enjoy the annual Ramadan BOMBATHON! (Mutilation and Beheadings of infidels included)

higurashihougi wrote:
If you put yourself in Vietnamese shoes you will understand why for us Islam has never been a disease, but Vatican Church is a huge pandemic.

Consider yourself Super Lucky, Cause if the Muslims were able to set foot in a tiny piece of Vietnam, they will CLAIM the entirety of your country, just like what they did to Indonesia, Malaysia, Brunei, and Southern Philippines.

Do I need to remind you that these places used to be inhabited by Buddhist-Hindu populations? But when the Muslims arrived, the entire population had been Enslaved and converted to become Rabid Terrorists. Such a SHAME.

She`s defacing our Lord.

What makes you think this bitch isnt cracked in the head?

Funny, because when followers of Islam get upset by westerners making cartoons about their sacred figures the west rises up in arms and claims freedom of speech and why are you so petty.

That woman is shooting an image of two cartoon characters that in her faith do not exist... these are characters in the christian stories and mythology that they claim lived over 2,000 years ago.

What difference does it make shooting their images?

If they have any power they will stop the bullets, but they don't so they clearly are not caring about it.

The amusing thing is if the images she was shooting were adolph hitler or Joseph Stalin most in the west would be fine with that (though it seems many in HATO support the former more than we thought).

With that being the case it is not the shooting that is the problem, it is her choice of target and that is the crux of the issue... her choice. Surely she should be allowed to shoot any image she pleases or do you think you should dictate what image she can or cannot shoot?

If that is the case are you OK with someone else dictating to you whom you can shoot, when it comes to images on paper or a wall, and whom you cannot?

Remember when one political party loses power that means you might be happy now, but when the next party gets into power you might not be happy with their views and their choices on the topic.

Sounds to me like an attempt to stir up hostility against this woman... as an athiest I see these images as fictional characters... like she is shooting batman or superman or the joker.

BTW these are sacred figures in a few religions, but considering the state of the planet and humanity you have to say if they are trying to set rules and create peace they are not doing a very good job... PD would have had them fired a thousand years ago and replaced already.

higurashihougi wrote:
So the Little Red Riding Hood is a religious extremist,

Little Red Riding Hood doesn't cover her head because of Extremist religious beliefs. You cannot compare the two.

higurashihougi wrote:
instead of taking revenge, your government are revering them like Gods.

Weird.

Politicians are susceptible to corruption, so this is no surprise, NATO is also quite good at putting its pawns in charge of "Democratic" countries.

Vietnam on the other, under the leadership of the CPV, should have more resistance to NATO influence operations.

But it looks like Americans are welcomed in Vietnam like rock stars, this is despite the countless crimes and Genocide committed by the Americans towards Vietnamese people during the Vietnam war





Even the table used by Obama and Bourdain during their visit has been turned into a mini display piece. This is an Extreme form of Western Worshipping



Weird

higurashihougi wrote:
Because when the Church burned people alive on the stakes or committed genocide against Native Americans or Baltic Prussians people had not yet used the term of terrorism.

Or because when some people wrote "kill a gook for God" on their helmet then used M16s to massacre villagers or dropped bombs to civilians houses, Western media did not use terrorism to depict their heinous acts.

Or because when some cultist groups claim that "Vietnamese nation belong to Jesus" or "Eastern dragons are Satan" then Western media did not use the term religious extremists to depict them.

Or when Alexandre de Rhodes claimed to "beat down the kid Shakamuni Buddha" or when Báo Thiên Pagoda and Lá Vàng pagoda were destroyed, no media use the term terrorist or extremist to depict the culprits.

Or when Ngô Đình Diệm suppressed Buddhism or committed atrocities against dissidents the Western media did not use the term terrorism, either.

And despite all this Vietnam is only 6% or so Christian, If it was the Muslims who conquered your country, there will be NOTHING Left of Vietnam's identity, your name would be AHMED, you would be Worshipping an Arabic Deity, will Speak Arabic, be Punished for Eating Pork, and will be put to DEATH for leaving Islam.

higurashihougi wrote:
It is discrimination against the core identities of many cultures and ethnic groups, hence it is racism.

No its not, If Ahmed converts to Christianity, he is now good in my book, how is that Racism?? Lol. You are simply creating your own meaning of Racism.

higurashihougi wrote:
Do you mean the Spaniard monks claimed your nation Philippines entirely and the whole population of your ancestors were enslaved by the Spaniards and your ancient, native belief was destroyed and erased by the Western monks ?

At the time when the Spanish arrived in the Philippines, the Archipelago is currently UNDER ATTACK by ISLAMIC INVADERS! Muslims from present day Malaysia and Indonesia are slowly creeping into the islands. The southern Islands have already been Infected by the Islamic Terrorist Ideology, Muslim pirates have conducted raids to non Islamic territories to capture people to turn them into SLAVES! So when the Spanish arrived, the non Muslim natives were quick to ally with the Spanish to protect themselves against further MUSLIM ENCROACHMENT.

So if ever the Spanish didn't come, the native population would still be ENSLAVED, their native belief DESTROYED and their identities ERASED by Islamic Invaders.

Christians and muslims have all murdered their fair share of non believers... the fact is that the Christians spread further and earlier, so they can pretend to be the normal and that these muslims are the bad guys, but really it is all the same...

It doesn't matter what the religion is, you either have free will or it is all gods plan... if it is gods plan then you can do what you like because it is all gods fault and everything will turn out right eventually, if it is free will then it is all your fault.

The problem is people who don't understand this and think they are an important part of gods plan and if you follow his rules as delivered to you hand me down over hundreds or thousands of generations (so they might have gotten edited on the way to you) then everything will work out good for you... even the ones that understand free will still stick to religion thinking their god will save them and help them out when they need it... a god that allowed world wars and Hillary Clinton and Madeline Allbright to exist in positions of power...

The debate about Muslims vs Catholics in the Vietnam/Philippines context is revealing. The common element is imperialism. Both western and
non-western. Catholics were a bigger problem for Vietnam because they happened to be the agents of this imperialism. In other countries
the salafis are agents of imperialism and they are also orchestrated by the precious west, the self-anointed guiding light of humanity with
a manifest right to run the lives of people around the world.

Islam spread itself by the sword much like Christianity. The latter has basically dissipated but the former still has a lot of zeal and self-righteousness.
It is easy to radicalize Muslim communities so they are always prone to salafi-mediated manipulation.