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    Islam and terrorism

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    Post  higurashihougi Fri Sep 20, 2024 2:34 pm

    kvs wrote:The common element is imperialism.

    Off topic, but it is also noteworthy to remember that in 1960s, 14th Dalai Lama received an annual subsidy 180000 USD from the CIA, and his clique received 1.7 mil USD yearly.

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    Post  PhSt Thu Sep 26, 2024 2:29 am

    higurashihougi wrote:
    Do the Muslims in Malaysia and Indonesia speak Arabic ? From what I see that they are speaking Bahasa Melayu and Bahasa Indonesia.

    Ask them which language is better and any Muslim will answer Arabic (despite it not being their native language) just because its the language of the Pedophile and Terrorist inventor of Islam MuhamMAD

    higurashihougi wrote:
    By the way, Muslims in China and Vietnam speak the national language, not Arabic.

    In the Philippines and other Christian countries, religious services, ceremonies, prayers and other activities are performed in their native language. In Islam, Arabic is FORCED to be the medium of prayer to its followers. Stop defending this TOTALITARIAN Cult

    higurashihougi wrote:
    And Chinese Hui Muslims use Chinese name.

    Lucky for them, all other Muslims across the world are BRAINWASHED to adopt Arabic names. This is very nauseating.

    higurashihougi wrote:
    But it is not like the imperialist that abuse the name of Jesus are not really better than the terrorist abusing the name of Allah.

    The PROBLEM right now is that Muslims continue their dreams of conquering the world and enslaving humanity in the name of Allah.

    higurashihougi wrote:
    And has things been better under the domination of Spaniards and later USA imperialist ? Did they respect your native culture ? Did they see the native Filipinos as equal and friends ? Or they were just another invaders that exploited and mistreated your nation ?

    The Spanish and the Americans can be described as Cough and Flu. The Muslims on the other hand is CANCER. In short, although the Spanish, Americans, and the Japanese have caused misery and committed injustice to the Filipino people, its nothing compared to what would have been if the Muslim Cancer had taken over.

    To be honest, I'm really perplexed by your pleasant opinion of Muslims. Its quite worrisome that you might simply be inventing your own reality of how Muslims behave, versus how Muslims actually behave in the real world.

    Why am I worried about Muslims? Because they want to TAKE OVER our countries one by one! This is not a rant, Open your eyes and you will see their Creeping take over.


    higurashihougi wrote:
    I forgot to say that, using your own criteria, people can argue that when Christian monks set foot on Frankish kingdom, Rus principalities, duchy of Poland, kingdom of Lithuania, Scandinavian peninsula and Ireland island, they CLAIMED the entirely of these lands.

    If you claim that Islamization of Malays and Indonesians as evil then what was the Chirstianization of the whole Europe ?

    You love to dwell in the past, perhaps because its the only place where you can find arguments against me, But HOW ABOUT NOW??? In 2024, Who is in a Relently Pursuit to Expand and Conquer and Enslave Humanity? Christianity or Islam? Churches are closing while Terrorist Breeding Grounds (Mosques) are metastasizing like Cancer everywhere. Open your eyes and don't let your deep hatred of past colonizers blind your sight to the PRESENT danger.

    higurashihougi wrote:
    And so do Islam in some very big communities.

    Yes, and they want to Expand even more until All of Humanity is Enslaved by this Moronic ideology. Living under Islamic Sharia law is like HELL on Earth. I'd rather see a cybernetic revolt/ takeover like in the Terminator or the Matrix than to see Humanity succumb to the Islamic Cancer. this is the DARKEST of all FATES for everyone.


    higurashihougi wrote:
    So when you are making hate speeches against Islam you are also making insults against many ethnic groups.

    Its not a hate speech when Muslims want to Enslave and take over my country.



    I'll give a small sneak peak of how Slimy Muslims are:

    There is a Catholic cathedral on Mindanao island in the Southern Philippines. The name of the Church is St. Mary's Cathedral

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    Its situated in a City called Marawi, This city is a Majority Muslim, and is also the scene of the 2017 ISIS siege incident in the Philippines, commonly known as the Siege of Marawi.

    After the city has been freed from ISIS occupation, a lot of buildings, including schools, and residential areas, were destroyed.

    The main Mosque at the center of the city were used by ISIS terrorists as their base of operations, naturally, the Mosque has been targetted by the military to destroy the ISIS terrorists hiding inside.

    The St. Mary's Cathedral is located also in the city center, the church has been ransacked, desecrated, and burned by the ISIS terrorists.

    Fast forward to the present, The Main city Mosque has been repaired and restored which made it look like its a brand new construction. On top of that, Another Big Mosque has been built only a few streets away.

    Meanwhile, the St. Mary's Cathedral is still in ruins, after SEVEN Years! No effort was made to rebuild the Chruch for fear of OFFENDING the Muslims.  Rolling Eyes

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    And from the looks of it, the entire complex might just be demolished.

    Can you Imagine? Both the Mosque and Church has been destroyed by the siege, Yet only the Mosque was rebuilt, but NOT the Church, even worse, The Church will be demolished altogether!

    Would they have done the same to the ruined Mosque?? Ohh Noo because the MUSLIM ASSHATS will be offended, But its okay to Demolish the Church because its okay to Offend the Christians.

    Just think about this for a second, MUSLIMS Thinking they can Push around and Dominate Christians in a country where 90% of the population is Majority Christian!

    And even before the events in 2017, The St. Mary's Cathedral wasn't allowed to display the Cross outside the building because its in a "Majority Muslim" city

    But Muslims on the other hand are Okay with displaying the Cresent Star in their Mosques in Majority Christian cities, and even play the Adhan on loudspeakers, again in Majority Christian cities. angry

    So no, my Deep Dislike of Muslims is not just because of some irrational prejudice. Muslims are Backstabbing double crosser vermins who will resort to any crooked methods to gain the upperhand over the non Muslims.

    Thats why, for me, the approach by China, India, and Israel to their Muslim problem is understandable. The Muslims only understand the language of Force!
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    Post  higurashihougi Thu Sep 26, 2024 10:55 am

    PhSt wrote:Thats why, for me, the approach by China, India, and Israel to their Muslim problem is understandable. The Muslims only understand the language of Force!

    1) China does not use force against Muslim. Muslim are free to practice their belief in China.

    Do you realize that you are broadcasting Western propaganda ?

    2) Do you know that Israel massacred thousands of civillian, women, children, infant... ?

    Not long ago an Israel missile target a house and killed a woman with her two twins that were just several days old.

    And you consider that "Understandable" ?

    In the SVO thread you called for genocide against Ukrainians and now you are calling for the genocide against Palestinians ?

    Do you realize how severe your claim is ?

    Is that how you follow Jesus's teachings ? Jesus taught Love and what you preach is genocide ?
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    Post  GarryB Fri Sep 27, 2024 5:24 am

    The case of Israel is unusual... it is as if a rich white colonial power could no longer stay where it was and had to take over one of its colonies, but the colony is small and there was not much room and the damn natives were breeding faster than than their white European colonial betters.

    The best comparison would be Hong Kong... imagine the UK economy collapses and ownership of the UK is transferred to the debtors... so the rich and upwardly mobile of the UK decided to move to Hong kong and make it their promised land.

    Problem is that it is full, so obviously the entire bureaucracy and military and police structure has to be taken over by native White Anglo Saxons and the native Chinese people become a second class in their own country.

    To justify it of course the British come up with a 5,000 year old Druid tablet that talks vaguely of a promised land far away... promised by god, so murder and violence and terrorism to create this new state... they will likely call it something stupid like Camelot or Avon or something... so after they have brutalised the locals and put them in their ghettos with all their restrictions and limitations, then they go about finding reasons to steal land these Hong Kong Natives actually live on, but of course there can be no possibility of a two state solution because Hong Kong is a made up country... made up by the UK... even though before Camelot was created the people in the region called themselves natives of Hong Kong and had passports that said as much.

    When these white Europeans push the natives off their land and bulldoze it so new settlements can be built for the chosen race, then of course some of these damn natives are going to object... but who can they object to? The local police and government are the ones kicking them off their land and the UN is fucking useless and toothless.

    So eventually they use violence... which the government and the police report as widely as they can... these aggressive Chinese activists killing innocent settlers and police.... they are terrorists so it becomes OK to murder them... and that is what they will do.

    Every now and then the unrest explodes into a larger conflict which the government can exploit and use to level enormous numbers of houses and buildings and kill lots of those damn natives as quickly as possible because then it is self defence and they can get away with it.

    This is genocide... die or leave the land we want to take from you.

    What Israel is doing has nothing to do with any religion but their own and they have masterfully converted a world that was largely sympathetic to their cause to a world divided because they are acting in many ways worse than the nazis they were victims of.

    The key is power, and their behaviour towards the Palestinians suggests that if the roles were reversed in WWII it might have been Jewish forces with concentration camps exterminating Nazis, or at least keeping them in ghettos...


    Of course there are many Jewish people who view Zionism and the idea of Israel as all wrong and creating more problems than it is worth.... the idea of Zion or Israel was to have a place where it would be safe to be jewish without oppression... well there are regions in Russia where they have such places without murdering their neighbours and making themselves into monsters to justify their way of life.

    I don't think it is an accident that most of the most extreme Israelis have American accents... both chosen people, and both more interested in their own rights and not so much their responsibilities.
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    Post  lyle6 Fri Sep 27, 2024 6:41 am

    Christianity is not some hippy feel good religion where you are supposed to be vaguely nice to other people.

    Its a psychosocial-spiritual weapon against the forces of evil that rule this planet.

    Big J does not come in peace, he comes with a sword.

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    Post  higurashihougi Fri Sep 27, 2024 12:26 pm

    lyle6 wrote:Big J does not come in peace, he comes with a sword.

    Like you people burnt alive the ones you claimed to not follow your version of worshiping Jesus, although they might actually practice a less corrupted, and more moral and more humane worshiping ritual than you ? 

    Or you people brutally killed marginalized women who you wrongly accused as witches without any evidences ?

    Like you people distorted the Teachings of Jesus to making excuses for launching Crusades and genocidal wars against the Muslims, the pagan Baltics, the Native Americans ?

    And yet you people always whine about why commie use iron fists against landlords and aristocrats whose evidences of exploitation and oppression piled up higher than the tower of Babel.

    Yes, land reforms and eradication of landlords are evil... but reactionary, USA-backed Venezuelan landlords hiring hit-men and gangsters to kill and terrorize campesinos are God's will.

    You right-wing people always claim the mantle of divine morality but what you behave are even worse than scoundrels with no familial upbringing.

    Disgusting hypocrites.

    Jesus should have been vomiting when he witnessed what you people did using His name as an excuse.

    lyle6 wrote:Its a psychosocial-spiritual weapon against the forces of evil that rule this planet.

    And how killing women with days old infants are related to fighting "forces of evil" ?

    Do you consider infants as evil ?

    lyle6 wrote:Christianity is not some hippy feel good religion where you are supposed to be vaguely nice to other people.

    What is real nice then ?

    Then calling genocide against people is real nice ?

    Then killing women, children, infants, pregnants... is real nice ?

    Then brush off your mother's care for you as "f**king housechores" like a scoundrel with no familial upbringing and no sense of filial piety, is real nice ?
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    Post  lyle6 Fri Sep 27, 2024 2:48 pm

    Lots of spittle flying around. But at the end of the day here's the truth: Communism was defeated by a pair of Levis and diet coke. What an awful god to worship. Razz
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    Post  kvs Fri Sep 27, 2024 6:16 pm

    Soviet communism failed because it was a one-party experiment that rotted out. All of the claimed superiority of capitalism is an add on.
    In particular multi-party elections and "pluarlism". I have not seen a single serious party within range of winning seats ever, ever question
    the economic system. In fact, they are all singing from the same choir sheet across the whole political spectrum. The USSR could have
    implemented multi-party votes and pluralism as well. As long as none of the parties wants to stage a capitalist revolution, the system would
    work. Same case for the capitalist west, where none of the parties wants to overthrow the system.

    The US loves to dick stroke that it won the cold war. That it supposedly bankrupted the USSR with military spending.

    1) It was impossible to bankrupt the USSR in any sense that is being claimed by western revisionists. The only metric that could be relevant
    is how many workers were being diverted into the military sector to lead to an economic crisis. The claim that 30% of the Soviet GDP was
    spent on the military is utter nonsense since nowhere near 30% of the Soviet workforce was deployed in this sector. There are no prices
    which would complicate this analysis. A command economy does not operate on prices and money.

    2) The USSR was destroyed by the nomenklatura who got pathologically greedy and wanted capitalist riches. The Soviet system kept their
    wealth under control even though you could see them abusing power by having lavish dachas with security. Soviet gated communities for
    the party elite. Raygun Reagan had zilch to do with the collapse of the USSR. Grobie gets vastly more credit by being a comprador who
    sold his country down the river.

    3) It is true that jeans and bubble gum had a magic effect in the USSR. I recall in the 1970s somebody asking me for my aunt, living in the west
    at the time, to send over exactly jeans and bubble gum. Most humans are low IQ as dictated by entropy. So consumer trash and soft head
    marketing actually work on them.

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    Post  GarryB Sat Sep 28, 2024 9:19 am

    And how killing women with days old infants are related to fighting "forces of evil" ?

    Do you consider infants as evil ?

    He is agreeing with you... his comments are not his own views, but the views of those who justify what they do in the name of a higher power.

    God and Mohammad must be pussies if they need their followers to destroy all who don't believe they exist.

    Especially when they can't be bothered to appear to these people and prove they exist... being all powerful beings that are everywhere and in all things.

    They expect everyone to take someone elses word... and this is people who can and do lie all the time about all sorts of things but on religion you can trust them?

    Seems a bit shaky to me.

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    Post  kvs Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:21 pm

    I will not dismiss reality beyond our perception and understanding, but organized religion is rot. Supposedly the omnipotent and omniscient deity does not act directly but
    through its meat puppet followers. So is the Devil as saint or a demon? He also acts through meat puppets if he exists. The theologians will claim that God is testing us
    and that is why his action appears in "mysterious ways". This is utter BS. So this holy deity is engaged in an unethical experiment where he tests us in cruel and unusual ways
    so that we can "prove" our faith or some nonsense. I would think that such proof would be established after your life comes to an end and your behaviour while you were alive
    is evidence. Where is the need for engaging in some testing all the time? Seems like the deity is like a gang leader who needs to endlessly check the loyalty of his gang members
    because he is afraid of being removed from power.

    Then we have the gem: fornication is a sin, but be fruitful and multiply. It highlights the nature of organized religion. Don't use the brain you have for some reason, just obey
    and be a good little meat puppet.

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    Post  higurashihougi Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:38 pm

    Religious people always tell me that their religion taught them to be good and to avoid the evil. Being an atheist, I have my own opinion about that claim, but I acknowledge that most of the religious people I know take that claim seriously and sincerely attempt to apply the moral teachings at least at a visible level. For me, as they are encouraged to be good people due to their belief, I am OK with them as religious people.

    Jesus and Mohammed did preached many great moral teachings compare to the average level of their time.

    But what I am concerned is the banality of evil: the religious believers sincerely want to do good things, but the priests tell them that massacre of Native Americans are good things...

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    Post  lyle6 Sun Sep 29, 2024 7:51 pm

    From my experience there is no such thing as an "atheist" - you're worshipping another low rent demon, you're just embarrassed to admit it as such.

    Anything can be abused - even religion.

    higurashihougi wrote:
    Jesus and Mohammed did preached many great moral teachings compare to the average level of their time.
    You never read the Koran if you're putting the one true God and a [redacted] in the same sentence...

    kvs wrote:
    I will not dismiss reality beyond our perception and understanding, but organized religion is rot. Supposedly the omnipotent and omniscient deity does not act directly but
    through its meat puppet followers. So is the Devil as saint or a demon? He also acts through meat puppets if he exists. The theologians will claim that God is testing us
    and that is why his action appears in "mysterious ways". This is utter BS. So this holy deity is engaged in an unethical experiment where he tests us in cruel and unusual ways
    so that we can "prove" our faith or some nonsense. I would think that such proof would be established after your life comes to an end and your behaviour while you were alive
    is evidence. Where is the need for engaging in some testing all the time? Seems like the deity is like a gang leader who needs to endlessly check the loyalty of his gang members
    because he is afraid of being removed from power.
    Read the bible very, very closely. The malevolent volcano demon in part I is not God.

    And mine didn't. Dude went into the trouble of experiencing the human condition first hand, found out it sucks massive ass - and proceeds to give a chance at eternal life in paradise.

    How many gods do you know of that actually do that shit for you?



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    Post  GarryB Mon Sep 30, 2024 3:12 am

    Religious people are amongst the worst sinners and pretend to be good by getting forgiveness for their sins via their franchise of religion.

    Look at the IRA, going out and bombing and killing people and then getting forgiven by their god in their religion... thinking what they are doing is right and good.

    Most religious people use the parts of their religion that suit at the time... how often does Christian America turn the other cheek or forgive... or for that matter treat others as they would have others treat them?

    It is all horseshit.

    As an Athiest I see my problems as my problems and I don't expect any higher power to fix things for me and this is not a test of my faith.

    If you are religious then either it is all gods plan... in which case it is gods fault, or everyone has free will, which means it is your fault.

    Nowhere in any bible does it say god will fix your problems for you, or help you in any way... all it says is when you die he will look after your soul/spirit forever in a place you will like with the people you love.

    Well that sounds great but how big is this place... what is its capacity, and how are they going to deal with the complexity of human relations... someone may have loved people who don't get to go to heaven... love is supposed to be unconditional and if, after they are dead, they reflect and realise what terrible things they have done and repent is there no room for forgiveness religious people seem to be able to get on demand here on earth?

    It is a big scam and more recent scams like Scientology just prove that to be the case.

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    Post  higurashihougi Mon Sep 30, 2024 3:16 am

    lyle6 wrote:From my experience there is no such thing as an "atheist" - you're worshipping another low rent demon, you're just embarrassed to admit it as such.

    If projecting your subjective theistic viewpoint into atheists make you happy... then so be it.

    Although today when people are more knowledgeable about various beliefs and cultures in the world, they may see that revering a demon is a better alternative than serving the church you claim to believe in.

    A church which is a den of mass murderer, genocide, burning people on stakes, pedophile, rapist, and hypocrite... no wonder why people turn to demons instead.

    Probably that church is actually demon worshipers who pretend to worship Christ but instead abusing Christ's image to extort money from believers ?

    lyle6 wrote:Dude went into the trouble of experiencing the human condition first hand, found out it sucks massive ass - and proceeds to give a chance at eternal life in paradise.

    Why promise an eternal life in netherworld and not use your power to change the current mortal world ?

    For example many Filipino still have to eat pagpag and live in extreme poverty, while the political lords indulge in corruption and police abuse is rampant... where are your divine power ?

    You are promised an eternal happy netherworld therefore just suffer in silence and let the USA masters and native compradors a**rape your nation ?

    lyle6 wrote:How many gods do you know of that actually do that shit for you?

    Not that I care, because I worship no god. For me every deities are the same, the mystical product of human minds in an attempt to explain or to attribute responsibility for what they don't understand or have no control.

    But what I care is whether you people behave as worthy of the moral teachings of the religion you believe in. The Ten Commandment said you must honor your parents, however you people brush off your mom's care and labour for you and family as "f**king housechores".

    Or as Jesus judge the Samaritan who what he did, not where his background come from, however you people call for genocide and massacre of civilians of the states you dislike regardless of age, gender, thinkings.

    Is that how you honor Jesus ?
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    Post  lyle6 Mon Sep 30, 2024 5:23 pm

    This debate is hilarious. Atheism and its demonic offshoots in communism, nazism, and capitalism are responsible for causing more human deaths and suffering than any religion on this planet.

    It changed the world alright. Brought us slavery, genocide, abortion, the atom bomb, addictions of every kind... Razz

    And what the **** is it with the commie and his obsession with dumpster diving? Nigga you eat bugs. Our poorest of the poor eat from the trash, but even they, don't eat bugs. Razz

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    Post  higurashihougi Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:19 pm

    Except that slavery emerged long long ago when most of the people that time were deities believers... USA slaveowners and Tsarist serfowners claimed to be God believers. USA installed puppet regimes in Philippines have been self-proclaimed God-believers and their USA masters claimed that "In God We Trust", and USA soldier wrote "kill a gook for God" (remember your skin color, lyle).

    Is being ignorant of history how you honor Jesus ?

    Regarding insects, many Filipino dishes consist of insects as delicacies, too. Are you ignorant of your own national cuisine ?

    Is pagpag acknowledged as national delicacy in Philippines or are seen as a symbol of extreme poverty and extreme exploitation in Philippines ?

    First you whitewashing the crimes of your USA masters on your country by blaming your own nation not controlling birth rate. Now you whitewashing your USA masters by deceptively compare pagpag with cuisine delicacies.

    Is that how you honor Jesus's name ? By kneeling like a dog and backstabbing your own nation for your USA masters ?

    Are you really a Filipino ? Or are you a foreign agent installed by USA to enslave the Filipino ?
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    Post  lyle6 Mon Sep 30, 2024 8:34 pm

    >Except that slavery emerged long long ago when most of the people that time were deities believers... USA slaveowners and Tsarist serfowners claimed to be God believers. USA installed puppet regimes in Philippines have been self-proclaimed God-believers and their USA masters claimed that "In God We Trust", and USA soldier wrote "kill a gook for God" (remember your skin color, lyle).
    Noticed you didn't deny the other charges. Razz

    But no, chattel slavery - and modern incarnations of it - have its roots in capitalism. That's why they call it the slave trade. Get it?

    Surely I don't have to school you on Marxist theory now? Razz

    >Is being ignorant of history how you honor Jesus ?
    You're the commie. You're the one doing the historical revisions. Razz

    >Regarding insects, many Filipino dishes consist of insects as delicacies, too. Are you ignorant of your own national cuisine ?
    **** no. Mad

    Maybe some weirdos from some backwater ass crack eat insects but at least from where I'm from we don't. Most we can stomach is animal intestines and even that's stretching the palate. No

    >First you whitewashing the crimes of your USA masters on your country by blaming your own nation not controlling birth rate. Now you whitewashing your USA masters by deceptively compare pagpag with cuisine delicacies.
    I'm not whitewashing. I'm taking responsibility for my own shit. Only niggers blame some retard 30, 60, or 100 years ago for his current predicament.

    >Is that how you honor Jesus's name ? By kneeling like a dog and backstabbing your own nation for your USA masters ?
    Nigga you commies base your economy on working for a pittance for western and Chinese companies. Ho Chi Minh would have acked himself silly if he sees you kow towing to your former brutalizers - the Chinks and the Gringos. Razz

    >Are you really a Filipino ? Or are you a foreign agent installed by USA to enslave the Filipino ?
    They do that shit themselves. Nobody has to lift any finger. dunno
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    Post  higurashihougi Mon Sep 30, 2024 10:01 pm

    lyle6 wrote:But no, chattel slavery - and modern incarnations of it - have its roots in capitalism. That's why they call it the slave trade. Get it?

    1) So ancient Hellenic and Roman were capitalism ?

    Did you attend high school ?

    2) And yet the slave owners and slave traders in the 17th-19th century claimed themselves as Christians.

    White supremacists and apartheid claimed the mantle of Christianity when they shouted out their racist mantra, too, they did not claim atheism.

    Jesus judge the Samaritan for what he did, not where his background come from, however you people shouted out skin color slurs and still dare to claim Jesus's legacy ?

    What's going on ?

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    Post  PhSt Mon Sep 30, 2024 11:08 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:
    China does not use force against Muslim. Muslim are free to practice their belief in China.

    I am talking about Chinese measures against Radical/ Extremist Islamic ideology in their country.


    higurashihougi wrote:
    2) Do you know that Israel massacred thousands of civillian, women, children, infant... ?

    Yes its quite unfortunate, but I know how Muslims behave. Show Muslims leniency and they will cut off your head and take your property. So Israel's actions are understandable.


    higurashihougi wrote:
    Is that how you follow Jesus's teachings ? Jesus taught Love and what you preach is genocide ?

    You cant follow Jesus' teachings when Muslims are actively trying to Kill you. Once the Muslims are gone, then perhaps these teachings will be easier to practice

    Also, did you completely skip the part where I mentioned about Muslim atrocities? Here you are again protecting people who wants to Chop your head off. Malaysia is your neighbor, did you know leaving Islam in Malaysia is punishable by DEATH? Ohh but you will probably skip this part as well because it doesn't fit your "Muslims are benevolent" narrative.

    Another way how Muslims are trying to expand is by making Brazen Historical Revisionism. For example, A Vietnamese person has been FOOLED to convert to Islam. Then this Vietnamese Muslim convert will move to a district in Hanoi or Saigon and then Declare himself as the "Sultan of Hanoi" or "Sultan of Saigon". Muslims are doing these pathetic land grab modus operandi in the Philippines. This should serve as a Warning to lyle6, sooner or later this might happen in your neighborhood, but the problem is the Philippine government seems Blind to these kinds of developments. There is no other choice but to invite Israeli settlers to the Philippines and let them KILL the Muslim Terrorist Land Grabbers.  attack
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    Post  lyle6 Mon Sep 30, 2024 11:27 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:
    1) So ancient Hellenic and Roman were capitalism ?

    Did you attend high school ?
    WTF! You're not aware of the class feud between the optimates and the populares?

    And you dare call yourself a communist. Razz

    higurashihougi wrote:
    2) And yet the slave owners and slave traders in the 17th-19th century claimed themselves as Christians.

    White supremacists and apartheid claimed the mantle of Christianity when they shouted out their racist mantra, too, they did not claim atheism.

    Jesus judge the Samaritan for what he did, not where his background come from, however you people shouted out skin color slurs and still dare to claim Jesus's legacy ?

    What's going on ?
    We have records of who owned the slave ships. They're not Christian.
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    Post  flamming_python Tue Oct 01, 2024 1:13 am

    PhSt wrote:You cant follow Jesus' teachings when Muslims are actively trying to Kill you. Once the Muslims are gone, then perhaps these teachings will be easier to practice

    Well you can, that's what Jesus himself did, he called it like he saw it.
    And he got himself crucified for going against the local religious beliefs.

    This is what Christianity teaches. You must show courage and right the wrongs where you find them, but without harming anyone. And if the consequence is martyrdom then so be it. Now if you want to do something else fine, no-one here's judging, but it's not the Christian way, since this subject is being brought up in this thread so much.

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    Post  PhSt Tue Oct 01, 2024 2:07 am

    flamming_python wrote:
    This is what Christianity teaches. You must show courage and right the wrongs where you find them, but without harming anyone.

    This is a Bizarre interpretation of the Christian texts and shows a complete and utter Defeatist mentality. I am all for applying more emphasis on the old testaments to instill more warfighting indoctrination among Christians, and re-interpret one of the ten commandments that prohibit murder, this needs to be Corrected to its True nature which is prohibiting murder only towards fellow Christians. Therefore, the slaughter of non-Christians should not be considered a sin and should be encouraged in times of war or when there is aggression towards Christians.

    Look at how the Jews wage war, this is HOW Christians should have waged the Crusades against the cruel and wretched Muslim savages. I believe there is still hope, perhaps when Israel is done with the Shias, the Sunnis will be next. Exterminate them all!

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    Post  flamming_python Tue Oct 01, 2024 2:27 am

    PhSt wrote:This is a Bizarre interpretation of the Christian texts and shows a complete and utter Defeatist mentality. I am all for applying more emphasis on the old testaments to instill more warfighting indoctrination among Christians, and re-interpret one of the ten commandments that prohibit murder, this needs to be Corrected to its True nature which is prohibiting murder only towards fellow Christians. Therefore, the slaughter of non-Christians should not be considered a sin and should be encouraged in times of war or when there is aggression towards Christians.

    Look at how the Jews wage war, this is HOW Christians should have waged the Crusades against the cruel and wretched Muslim savages. I believe there is still hope, perhaps when Israel is done with the Shias, the Sunnis will be next. Exterminate them all!


    It's not a bizarre interpretation at all, it's exactly how Jesus Christ himself acted in the sort of hostile situation that you described, and although it led to his crucifixion, it also led to his teachings spreading. His disciples, and early Christians in general, attempted to follow his example closely too, many of them ended up martyred for sticking to their faith and became canonized as Saints. Their conviction in the face of adversity led to Christianity spreading further throughout the ancient world.
    And where are the followers of the Roman and Greek pantheons and the Viking pagans and everyone else today?

    So this is the Christian way, what it actually originally was. I'm sure it was reinterpreted to be whatever else as time went on and of course today's Christians are not big on following Christ's example literally. Myself included. Takes a strong person to be a proper Christian.

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    Post  GarryB Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:20 am

    Atheism and its demonic offshoots in communism, nazism, and capitalism are responsible for causing more human deaths and suffering than any religion on this planet.

    Stalin embraced religion during the great Patriotic war, and Hitler was not above talking about chosen people... and by definition demonic does not apply to Athiests... demons are fabrications of religion... the devil made me do it... does not work so well when you don't believe in heaven or hell.

    It changed the world alright. Brought us slavery, genocide, abortion, the atom bomb, addictions of every kind...

    None of those things have anything to do with religion, except genocide which is how members of each religious cult would like to treat members of different religions or different factions of the same religion. Most wars are about money or territory or religion and often even when they don't start out being religious they become religious to get more allies into the fight on your side.

    It was good Christian Britain that got the Chinese addicted to Opium so they could offset the trade deficit where the UK imported silk and spices and all manner of other goods from China but China wasn't interested in anything the UK produced and was prepared to sell to China.

    And what the **** is it with the commie and his obsession with dumpster diving? Nigga you eat bugs. Our poorest of the poor eat from the trash, but even they, don't eat bugs.

    If you eat anything that is coloured red with food colouring then actually, you do eat bugs.

    Yes its quite unfortunate, but I know how Muslims behave. Show Muslims leniency and they will cut off your head and take your property. So Israel's actions are understandable.

    Funny because that sounds more like something Israel or the US or Nazi Germany would do and has done...


    You cant follow Jesus' teachings when Muslims are actively trying to Kill you. Once the Muslims are gone, then perhaps these teachings will be easier to practice

    But Jesus teaches love and forgiveness, you want extermination... perhaps you should be a muslim, from what you are saying they are more like you than you are like Christians.

    We have records of who owned the slave ships. They're not Christian.

    Hahahaha... the slave ships... did all slaves travel by ships? Are the only slaves that ever existed in the US, having being sent there from Africa where all slaves come from to the US where all slaves lived?

    It has been normal practise for thousands of years for many native people to take slaves from captured enemy tribes in many regions around the entire planet... the slave trade you speak of was for a period of time when the growth of the US was not matched by its available labour so BLACK AFRICAN NATIONALS would sell other BLACK AFRICAN NATIONALS to western slave traders who could not go too deep into the African continent for fear of Malaria. Blacks captured blacks and took them to the coasts and sold them to foreigners to be shipped to the US for sale as menial workers. It was not even a black slave issue because some of the slave owners were black. It was more about rich and poor and the rich using essentially free labour to earn more money than they could on their own.

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    Post  lyle6 Tue Oct 01, 2024 5:25 am

    >Stalin embraced religion during the great Patriotic war, and Hitler was not above talking about chosen people... and by definition demonic does not apply to Athiests... demons are fabrications of religion... the devil made me do it... does not work so well when you don't believe in heaven or hell.
    They`re offshoots of atheism because they reject God and substitute belief in false gods of thier own - to commies the party, the nazis their race and capitalism materialism.

    Demons are real. Very.

    >None of those things have anything to do with religion, except genocide which is how members of each religious cult would like to treat members of different religions or different factions of the same religion. Most wars are about money or territory or religion and often even when they don't start out being religious they become religious to get more allies into the fight on your side.
    Most religions are demonic cults in disguise...

    >It was good Christian Britain that got the Chinese addicted to Opium so they could offset the trade deficit where the UK imported silk and spices and all manner of other goods from China but China wasn't interested in anything the UK produced and was prepared to sell to China.
    The Sassoon family werent Christian...

    But if we`re talking history it was the Christian abolitionists who were instrumental in the outlawing of slavery in the British empire...

    >If you eat anything that is coloured red with food colouring then actually, you do eat bugs.
    I dont eat processed food. You should too.

    >It was more about rich and poor and the rich using essentially free labour to earn more money than they could on their own.
    my point exactly.

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