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Su-30 for Russian Air Force
medo- Posts : 4343
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- Post n°256
Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force
The picture show British Typhoon FGR4. I don't know, if this is tranche 4 Eurofighter. However, position of MMW pulse doppler MAWS radars in Eurofighter in the wing leading edge and in the back, indicate, that new Flankers (SU-27SM, Su-30M2, Su-30SM and Su-34) could use similar MAWS complex in their wing leading edges and in their stings as they have new RWR sensors on the wings and on tails. If they don't have optical MAWS sensors, that doesn't necessary mean they don't have any.
Werewolf- Posts : 5933
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- Post n°257
Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force
medo wrote:The picture show British Typhoon FGR4. I don't know, if this is tranche 4 Eurofighter. However, position of MMW pulse doppler MAWS radars in Eurofighter in the wing leading edge and in the back, indicate, that new Flankers (SU-27SM, Su-30M2, Su-30SM and Su-34) could use similar MAWS complex in their wing leading edges and in their stings as they have new RWR sensors on the wings and on tails. If they don't have optical MAWS sensors, that doesn't necessary mean they don't have any.
I'm not really convienced by radar based MAWS, i doubt they can outperforme optical UV/IR spectrum MAWS which have about 15km+ detection range, i doubt those little pulse doppler radar sensors have enough power to beat 15km and ATAM missilse are freakish fast and you need all time you can get and the earlier you detect a threat the more time you have to react.
medo- Posts : 4343
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- Post n°258
Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force
Werewolf wrote:medo wrote:The picture show British Typhoon FGR4. I don't know, if this is tranche 4 Eurofighter. However, position of MMW pulse doppler MAWS radars in Eurofighter in the wing leading edge and in the back, indicate, that new Flankers (SU-27SM, Su-30M2, Su-30SM and Su-34) could use similar MAWS complex in their wing leading edges and in their stings as they have new RWR sensors on the wings and on tails. If they don't have optical MAWS sensors, that doesn't necessary mean they don't have any.
I'm not really convienced by radar based MAWS, i doubt they can outperforme optical UV/IR spectrum MAWS which have about 15km+ detection range, i doubt those little pulse doppler radar sensors have enough power to beat 15km and ATAM missilse are freakish fast and you need all time you can get and the earlier you detect a threat the more time you have to react.
Difficult to say. Radar based MAWS could not be compromised by any weather condition and work equally day and night. In my opinion it could be same effective as IR/UV MAWS. Maybe they are just easier to install in places of older RWRs in Flankers.
Viktor- Posts : 5796
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- Post n°259
Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force
Nice
Russian Air Force received a new batch of Su-30M2
mack you spoke of something like this happening few days ago. Any numbers?
Russian Air Force received a new batch of Su-30M2
mack you spoke of something like this happening few days ago. Any numbers?
mack8- Posts : 1039
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- Post n°260
Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force
The insiders were mentioning about borts 70, 91, 92, 93 being transferred to VVS soon, but only bort 70 was confirmed as a Su-30M2. It wasn't clear if the other 3 were also M2 or perhaps Su-27SM3. Perhaps all four are M2s after all?
PS: Looks like there are 4 Su-30M2 delivered today, bringing the total so far to 12.
PS: Looks like there are 4 Su-30M2 delivered today, bringing the total so far to 12.
mack8- Posts : 1039
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- Post n°261
Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force
Here they are, all are Su-30M2 indeed.
medo- Posts : 4343
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- Post n°262
Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force
I suppose red 70 will go to Krymsk, while blue 91, 92 and 93 will serve in far East regiments.
mack8- Posts : 1039
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- Post n°263
Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force
The rumour mill goes that 70 will indeed go to Krymsk, but 91, 92, 93 might go to Belbek in Crimea (which will also allegedly host Su-27SMs).
Btw, i know there are some VVS Su-27Ps detached to Crimea, does anyone have a link to images of them, and any other details, like how many (there should be 20 by the end of the year, but how many are there now), what regiment are they from etc.
Btw, i know there are some VVS Su-27Ps detached to Crimea, does anyone have a link to images of them, and any other details, like how many (there should be 20 by the end of the year, but how many are there now), what regiment are they from etc.
mack8- Posts : 1039
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- Post n°264
Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force
The proverbial rumour mill goes that 2 new Su-30SM, red 24 and 25 have been transferred to Domna few days ago.
medo- Posts : 4343
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- Post n°265
Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force
mack8 wrote:The proverbial rumour mill goes that 2 new Su-30SM, red 24 and 25 have been transferred to Domna few days ago.
I hope there will soon be some pictures of them.
medo- Posts : 4343
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- Post n°266
Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force
Anyone know, if those new Su-30SM and Su-35 in Domna and Dzemgi air bases have or will get hangars for them, or will be stored outside? They are expensive and have sensitive electronics, so it will be good to store them in warm and dry places, when not active.
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- Post n°267
Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force
They have talked about upgrading a lot of airfields, so I would suspect they will upgrade fields with new and upgraded aircraft to protect their investment.
medo- Posts : 4343
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- Post n°268
Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force
This photo is from Su-30SM cockpit. I would like to ask what is the function of LCD display system on the left side panel? Is it for autopilot programing? For control of on-board systems? The same LCD have WSO in right side panel.
GarryB- Posts : 40597
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- Post n°269
Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force
Being a multi function display it could be used for a range of things... fuel management, weapon management, navigation... the position suggests it would be information that is not critical all the time but something that needs to be checked from time to time... like weapon information... preparing weapons for launch, or for navigation, or engine or fuel management...
mack8- Posts : 1039
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- Post n°270
Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force
Domna Su-30SMs:
Mike E- Posts : 2619
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- Post n°271
Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force
Nice find! Always nice to see the SUs in action.
Viktor- Posts : 5796
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- Post n°272
Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force
3 Su-30SM and 3 Yak-130 delivered to RuAF
Russian Air Force received another batch of Su-30cm and Yak-130
Russian Air Force received another batch of Su-30cm and Yak-130
mack8- Posts : 1039
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- Post n°273
Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force
Great news, the number of Su-30SMs delivered should be rapidly heading towards 30 by now (i lost count!)?. Unfortunately, the Yak-130 deliveries seems way behind schedule this year, hope they can somewhat catch up if possible.
mack8- Posts : 1039
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- Post n°274
Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force
Thanks to Berkut, here they are, Su-30SM are borts 21, 23, 26. Can't see the Yak-130 borts though.
medo- Posts : 4343
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- Post n°275
Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force
I wonder how many Su-30SM were already delivered this year? On the photo we could see red 17, 18 and 19. I think IAPO plan to deliver 21 Su-30SM this year.
Maybe it is just me, but Su-30SM really remind me on F-14.
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- Post n°276
Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force
mack8 wrote:Great news, the number of Su-30SMs delivered should be rapidly heading towards 30 by now (i lost count!)?. Unfortunately, the Yak-130 deliveries seems way behind schedule this year, hope they can somewhat catch up if possible.
27 Su-30SM and 12 Su-30M2
medo- Posts : 4343
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- Post n°277
Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force
mack8 wrote:Great news, the number of Su-30SMs delivered should be rapidly heading towards 30 by now (i lost count!)?. Unfortunately, the Yak-130 deliveries seems way behind schedule this year, hope they can somewhat catch up if possible.
I think Yak-130 deliveries are delayed because of changes after crash.
medo- Posts : 4343
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- Post n°278
Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force
It looks like a picture in helmet mounted display in Su-30SM.
Mike E- Posts : 2619
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- Post n°279
Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force
Cool, but is that the Sun in the background?
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- Post n°280
Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force
Mike E wrote:Cool, but is that the Sun in the background?
No that is the target exploding.