Russia Defence Forum

Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

Military Forum for Russian and Global Defence Issues


+80
Big_Gazza
Rodion_Romanovic
LMFS
dino00
Isos
eridan
Hole
miketheterrible
GunshipDemocracy
AMCXXL
Austin
d_taddei2
Peŕrier
MC-21
hoom
ZoA
T-47
marcellogo
Cheetah
slasher
George1
franco
ATLASCUB
KomissarBojanchev
Svyatoslavich
Admin
VladimirSahin
KiloGolf
higurashihougi
JohnSnow
azw
AK-Rex
ult
David-Lanza
Arrow
jhelb
Berkut
artjomh
Notio
Morpheus Eberhardt
AlfaT8
PapaDragon
OminousSpudd
Book.
JohninMK
Honesroc
ahmedfire
nemrod
TheArmenian
Manov
RTN
Giulio
Flyingdutchman
navyfield
Mike E
Werewolf
Hannibal Barca
GJ Flanker
Indian Flanker
etaepsilonk
magnumcromagnon
flamming_python
calripson
Viktor
spotter
Stealthflanker
sepheronx
zg18
kopyo-21
mack8
a89
AJ-47
Cyberspec
Shadåw
Sujoy
SOC
TR1
Russian Patriot
GarryB
medo
84 posters

    Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    medo
    medo


    Posts : 4343
    Points : 4423
    Join date : 2010-10-24
    Location : Slovenia

    Su-30 for Russian Air Force - Page 11 Empty Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  medo Thu Jul 24, 2014 4:31 pm

    The picture show British Typhoon FGR4. I don't know, if this is tranche 4 Eurofighter. However, position of MMW pulse doppler MAWS radars in Eurofighter in the wing leading edge and in the back, indicate, that new Flankers (SU-27SM, Su-30M2, Su-30SM and Su-34) could use similar MAWS complex in their wing leading edges and in their stings as they have new RWR sensors on the wings and on tails. If they don't have optical MAWS sensors, that doesn't necessary mean they don't have any.
    Werewolf
    Werewolf


    Posts : 5933
    Points : 6122
    Join date : 2012-10-24

    Su-30 for Russian Air Force - Page 11 Empty Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  Werewolf Thu Jul 24, 2014 6:55 pm

    medo wrote:The picture show British Typhoon FGR4. I don't know, if this is tranche 4 Eurofighter. However, position of MMW pulse doppler MAWS radars in Eurofighter in the wing leading edge and in the back, indicate, that new Flankers (SU-27SM, Su-30M2, Su-30SM and Su-34) could use similar MAWS complex in their wing leading edges and in their stings as they have new RWR sensors on the wings and on tails. If they don't have optical MAWS sensors, that doesn't necessary mean they don't have any.

    I'm not really convienced by radar based MAWS, i doubt they can outperforme optical UV/IR spectrum MAWS which have about 15km+ detection range, i doubt those little pulse doppler radar sensors have enough power to beat 15km and ATAM missilse are freakish fast and you need all time you can get and the earlier you detect a threat the more time you have to react.
    medo
    medo


    Posts : 4343
    Points : 4423
    Join date : 2010-10-24
    Location : Slovenia

    Su-30 for Russian Air Force - Page 11 Empty Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  medo Thu Jul 24, 2014 8:33 pm

    Werewolf wrote:
    medo wrote:The picture show British Typhoon FGR4. I don't know, if this is tranche 4 Eurofighter. However, position of MMW pulse doppler MAWS radars in Eurofighter in the wing leading edge and in the back, indicate, that new Flankers (SU-27SM, Su-30M2, Su-30SM and Su-34) could use similar MAWS complex in their wing leading edges and in their stings as they have new RWR sensors on the wings and on tails. If they don't have optical MAWS sensors, that doesn't necessary mean they don't have any.

    I'm not really convienced by radar based MAWS, i doubt they can outperforme optical UV/IR spectrum MAWS which have about 15km+ detection range, i doubt those little pulse doppler radar sensors have enough power to beat 15km and ATAM missilse are freakish fast and you need all time you can get and the earlier you detect a threat the more time you have to react.

    Difficult to say. Radar based MAWS could not be compromised by any weather condition and work equally day and night. In my opinion it could be same effective as IR/UV MAWS. Maybe they are just easier to install in places of older RWRs in Flankers.
    Viktor
    Viktor


    Posts : 5796
    Points : 6429
    Join date : 2009-08-25
    Age : 44
    Location : Croatia

    Su-30 for Russian Air Force - Page 11 Empty Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  Viktor Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:46 am

    Nice  thumbsup 

    Russian Air Force received a new batch of Su-30M2

    mack you spoke of something like this happening few days ago. Any numbers?
    mack8
    mack8


    Posts : 1039
    Points : 1093
    Join date : 2013-08-02

    Su-30 for Russian Air Force - Page 11 Empty Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  mack8 Tue Aug 05, 2014 12:40 pm

    The insiders were mentioning about borts 70, 91, 92, 93 being transferred to VVS soon, but only bort 70 was confirmed as a Su-30M2. It wasn't clear if the other 3 were also M2 or perhaps Su-27SM3. Perhaps all four are M2s after all?

    PS: Looks like there are 4 Su-30M2 delivered today, bringing the total so far to 12.
    mack8
    mack8


    Posts : 1039
    Points : 1093
    Join date : 2013-08-02

    Su-30 for Russian Air Force - Page 11 Empty Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  mack8 Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:49 pm

    Here they are, all are Su-30M2 indeed. Very Happy 
    Su-30 for Russian Air Force - Page 11 142953
    Su-30 for Russian Air Force - Page 11 142954
    Su-30 for Russian Air Force - Page 11 142956
    Su-30 for Russian Air Force - Page 11 142955
    medo
    medo


    Posts : 4343
    Points : 4423
    Join date : 2010-10-24
    Location : Slovenia

    Su-30 for Russian Air Force - Page 11 Empty Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  medo Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:47 pm

    I suppose red 70 will go to Krymsk, while blue 91, 92 and 93 will serve in far East regiments.
    mack8
    mack8


    Posts : 1039
    Points : 1093
    Join date : 2013-08-02

    Su-30 for Russian Air Force - Page 11 Empty Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  mack8 Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:39 pm

    The rumour mill goes that 70 will indeed go to Krymsk, but 91, 92, 93 might go to Belbek in Crimea (which will also allegedly host Su-27SMs).Smile

    Btw, i know there are some VVS Su-27Ps detached to Crimea, does anyone have a link to images of them, and any other details, like how many (there should be 20 by the end of the year, but how many are there now), what regiment are they from etc.
    mack8
    mack8


    Posts : 1039
    Points : 1093
    Join date : 2013-08-02

    Su-30 for Russian Air Force - Page 11 Empty Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  mack8 Sun Aug 17, 2014 5:06 pm

    The proverbial rumour mill goes that 2 new Su-30SM, red 24 and 25 have been transferred to Domna few days ago.
    medo
    medo


    Posts : 4343
    Points : 4423
    Join date : 2010-10-24
    Location : Slovenia

    Su-30 for Russian Air Force - Page 11 Empty Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  medo Sun Aug 17, 2014 8:06 pm

    mack8 wrote:The proverbial rumour mill goes that 2 new Su-30SM, red 24 and 25 have been transferred to Domna few days ago.

    I hope there will soon be some pictures of them.
    medo
    medo


    Posts : 4343
    Points : 4423
    Join date : 2010-10-24
    Location : Slovenia

    Su-30 for Russian Air Force - Page 11 Empty Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  medo Mon Aug 18, 2014 11:04 pm

    Anyone know, if those new Su-30SM and Su-35 in Domna and Dzemgi air bases have or will get hangars for them, or will be stored outside? They are expensive and have sensitive electronics, so it will be good to store them in warm and dry places, when not active.
    GarryB
    GarryB


    Posts : 40597
    Points : 41099
    Join date : 2010-03-30
    Location : New Zealand

    Su-30 for Russian Air Force - Page 11 Empty Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  GarryB Tue Aug 19, 2014 7:55 am

    They have talked about upgrading a lot of airfields, so I would suspect they will upgrade fields with new and upgraded aircraft to protect their investment.
    medo
    medo


    Posts : 4343
    Points : 4423
    Join date : 2010-10-24
    Location : Slovenia

    Su-30 for Russian Air Force - Page 11 Empty Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  medo Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:44 pm

    Su-30 for Russian Air Force - Page 11 2014_010

    This photo is from Su-30SM cockpit. I would like to ask what is the function of LCD display system on the left side panel? Is it for autopilot programing? For control of on-board systems? The same LCD have WSO in right side panel.
    GarryB
    GarryB


    Posts : 40597
    Points : 41099
    Join date : 2010-03-30
    Location : New Zealand

    Su-30 for Russian Air Force - Page 11 Empty Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  GarryB Thu Aug 21, 2014 8:41 am

    Being a multi function display it could be used for a range of things... fuel management, weapon management, navigation... the position suggests it would be information that is not critical all the time but something that needs to be checked from time to time... like weapon information... preparing weapons for launch, or for navigation, or engine or fuel management...
    mack8
    mack8


    Posts : 1039
    Points : 1093
    Join date : 2013-08-02

    Su-30 for Russian Air Force - Page 11 Empty Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  mack8 Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:51 am

    Domna Su-30SMs:
    Mike E
    Mike E


    Posts : 2619
    Points : 2651
    Join date : 2014-06-19
    Location : Bay Area, CA

    Su-30 for Russian Air Force - Page 11 Empty Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  Mike E Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:50 am

    Nice find! Always nice to see the SUs in action.
    Viktor
    Viktor


    Posts : 5796
    Points : 6429
    Join date : 2009-08-25
    Age : 44
    Location : Croatia

    Su-30 for Russian Air Force - Page 11 Empty Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  Viktor Fri Aug 29, 2014 3:01 pm

    3 Su-30SM and 3 Yak-130 delivered to RuAF

    Russian Air Force received another batch of Su-30cm and Yak-130
    mack8
    mack8


    Posts : 1039
    Points : 1093
    Join date : 2013-08-02

    Su-30 for Russian Air Force - Page 11 Empty Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  mack8 Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:39 pm

    Great news, the number of Su-30SMs delivered should be rapidly heading towards 30 by now (i lost count!)?. Unfortunately, the Yak-130 deliveries seems way behind schedule this year, hope they can somewhat catch up if possible.
    mack8
    mack8


    Posts : 1039
    Points : 1093
    Join date : 2013-08-02

    Su-30 for Russian Air Force - Page 11 Empty Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  mack8 Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:01 pm

    Thanks to Berkut, here they are, Su-30SM are borts 21, 23, 26. Can't see the Yak-130 borts though.
    medo
    medo


    Posts : 4343
    Points : 4423
    Join date : 2010-10-24
    Location : Slovenia

    Su-30 for Russian Air Force - Page 11 Empty Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  medo Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:08 pm

    Su-30 for Russian Air Force - Page 11 0_8fef10

    I wonder how many Su-30SM were already delivered this year? On the photo we could see red 17, 18 and 19. I think IAPO plan to deliver 21 Su-30SM this year.

    Maybe it is just me, but Su-30SM really remind me on F-14.


    Last edited by medo on Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:10 pm; edited 1 time in total
    George1
    George1


    Posts : 18530
    Points : 19035
    Join date : 2011-12-22
    Location : Greece

    Su-30 for Russian Air Force - Page 11 Empty Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  George1 Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:08 pm

    mack8 wrote:Great news, the number of Su-30SMs delivered should be rapidly heading towards 30 by now (i lost count!)?. Unfortunately, the Yak-130  deliveries seems way behind schedule this year, hope they can somewhat catch up if possible.

    27 Su-30SM and 12 Su-30M2
    medo
    medo


    Posts : 4343
    Points : 4423
    Join date : 2010-10-24
    Location : Slovenia

    Su-30 for Russian Air Force - Page 11 Empty Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  medo Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:20 pm

    mack8 wrote:Great news, the number of Su-30SMs delivered should be rapidly heading towards 30 by now (i lost count!)?. Unfortunately, the Yak-130  deliveries seems way behind schedule this year, hope they can somewhat catch up if possible.

    I think Yak-130 deliveries are delayed because of changes after crash.
    medo
    medo


    Posts : 4343
    Points : 4423
    Join date : 2010-10-24
    Location : Slovenia

    Su-30 for Russian Air Force - Page 11 Empty Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  medo Sat Aug 30, 2014 7:39 pm

    Su-30 for Russian Air Force - Page 11 0_8fef11

    It looks like a picture in helmet mounted display in Su-30SM.
    Mike E
    Mike E


    Posts : 2619
    Points : 2651
    Join date : 2014-06-19
    Location : Bay Area, CA

    Su-30 for Russian Air Force - Page 11 Empty Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  Mike E Sat Aug 30, 2014 7:42 pm

    Cool, but is that the Sun in the background?
    Werewolf
    Werewolf


    Posts : 5933
    Points : 6122
    Join date : 2012-10-24

    Su-30 for Russian Air Force - Page 11 Empty Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  Werewolf Sat Aug 30, 2014 7:44 pm

    Mike E wrote:Cool, but is that the Sun in the background?

    No that is the target exploding.

    Sponsored content


    Su-30 for Russian Air Force - Page 11 Empty Re: Su-30 for Russian Air Force

    Post  Sponsored content


      Current date/time is Thu Nov 28, 2024 2:28 am