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    Su-30 for Russian Air Force

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    Post  George1 Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:00 am

    So we will have 12 birds delivered to black sea fleet regiment and the first contracts will be fulfilled (5+7).

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    Post  GarryB Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:52 am

    A very wide choice... but would it be a sensible one?

    The Su-30 series are the low cost low priority aircraft so replacing the MiG-29SMT makes sense if longer range flight performance is required.

    I doubt they will make enough MiG-35s to replace all existing MiG-29s in service, so many MiG-29SMT units will be replaced with cheaper model Flankers... but I suspect many of them will also be replaced with MiG-29M2s as well and later MiG-35s.



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    Post  Guest Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:05 am

    KiloGolf wrote:
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    franco wrote:Here is a bit of a surprise. The next unit to convert to the Su-30SM will be the 14th Guards Regiment at Kursk presently flying the Mig-29SMT. No word on where the Mig's will then transfer to.

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2289926.html


    Seems like 29s have no future in RuAF at all.

    A wide choice would be to hand all their MiG-29s (incl. SMTs) to Armenia and Syria. Focus on the Flankers and future PAK FA.

    I wouldnt mind if they gave few of those SMTs to us here either.
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    Post  George1 Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:13 pm

    "Russian Knights" received today the next 4 Su-30SMs, in addition to the ones previously delivered. So now they are fully re-grouped with 8 birds. russia

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    Post  George1 Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:53 pm

    Sukhoi-30SM fighter to join Baltic Fleet’s aviation in 2017

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    Post  George1 Thu Dec 08, 2016 8:18 pm

    First Su-30SM for Baltic fleet delivered!! russia Two more are expected before the end of the year

    Press service of the Baltic Fleet reported that "on December 8 at the airfield in Chernyakhovsk Kaliningrad region held a solemn meeting of the first Su-30SM, which will be part of one of the squadrons of the air base. In the framework of the state defense order in 2017 in the naval aviation of the Baltic Fleet planned delivery of several fighters of this type. " The report also says that the first fighter crews already were retrained for the Su-30SM at the Center for operational use and retraining of pilots of the Navy Naval Aviation in Yeisk.

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    Post  franco Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:21 pm

    Four more Su-30SM's to Naval Aviation. Squadron of 12 aircraft complete for the Black Sea;

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2309685.html
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    Post  George1 Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:22 pm

    franco wrote:Four more Su-30SM's to Naval Aviation. Squadron of 12 aircraft complete for the Black Sea;

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2309685.html

    these four mentioned are the previoys delivered from November yes
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    Post  franco Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:30 pm

    George1 wrote:
    franco wrote:Four more Su-30SM's to Naval Aviation. Squadron of 12 aircraft complete for the Black Sea;

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2309685.html

    these four mentioned are the previoys delivered from November yes

    According to the article this makes 7 for the navy and 10 to the air force this year.
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    Post  George1 Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:32 pm

    franco wrote:
    George1 wrote:
    franco wrote:Four more Su-30SM's to Naval Aviation. Squadron of 12 aircraft complete for the Black Sea;

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2309685.html

    these four mentioned are the previoys delivered from November yes

    According to the article this makes 7 for the navy and 10 to the air force this year.

    exactly
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    Post  George1 Mon Dec 12, 2016 3:13 pm

    The Sukhoi-30SM has impressive flight range and duration parameters, such as a combat range of 1,500 kilometers. It can also be used for training pilots for single-seat fighter jets of the future.

    Twelve suspension devices enable the plane to carry medium-range air-to-air missiles of the R-27 family (up to eight), R-77 (ten) and short-range R-73 missiles (up to six).

    Armed with anti-radar and anti-ship missiles Kh-31P and Kh-31A (up to six) the Sukhoi-30SM can be used in operations to suppress enemy air defense and destroy surface ships. Also, the Sukhoi-30SM is capable of delivering pin-point strikes with:

    • Kh-59 family missiles (up to five);

    • Guided air bombs KAB-250 (up to six), KAB-500 (up to six) and KAB 1500 (up to three);

    • Kh-29T missiles with a TV-guided warhead (up to six);

    • Unguided air bombs (100 kg, 250 kg and 500 kg).

    • Sets of unguided missiles S-8 (set B-8M) and S-13 (B-13P), and S-24 and S-25 missiles.


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    Post  medo Tue Dec 27, 2016 7:01 pm

    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/88168/

    Northern fleet receive first two Su-30SM fighters with b/n 22 and 23.
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    Post  George1 Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:22 pm

    medo wrote:http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/88168/

    Northern fleet receive first two Su-30SM fighters with b/n 22 and 23.

    Thank you Medo, with 2 two Su-30SM deliveries completed for 2016!

    279th Shipborne Fighter Aviation Regiment has the carrier fighters Su-33.
    I wonder what is the purpose of Su-30SM fighters there. Naval strike for protection of the base??

    Naval Aviation Su-30SM
    Black sea fleet: 12
    Baltic fleet: 1
    Northern fleet: 2

    Total: 15
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    Post  Isos Wed Dec 28, 2016 3:52 pm

    George1 wrote:"Russian Knights" received today the next 4 Su-30SMs, in addition to the ones previously delivered. So now they are fully re-grouped with 8 birds. russia

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    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2293427.html

    Are these combat ready ? They should give them to the airforce instead of using them for shows.
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    Post  medo Wed Dec 28, 2016 4:29 pm

    George1 wrote:
    medo wrote:http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/88168/

    Northern fleet receive first two Su-30SM fighters with b/n 22 and 23.

    Thank you Medo, with 2 two Su-30SM deliveries completed for 2016!

    279th Shipborne Fighter Aviation Regiment has the carrier fighters Su-33.
    I wonder what is the purpose of Su-30SM fighters there. Naval strike for protection of the base??

    Naval Aviation Su-30SM
    Black sea fleet: 12
    Baltic fleet: 1
    Northern fleet: 2

    Total: 15

    Northern fleet Su-30SM will do the job, which was meant for land based Su-33 fighters, but for which non modernized are not good at. Su-30SM will give air protection of Northern fleet bases and Mirmansk area and over the sea patrols between Murmansk, Novaya Zemlya island and Franz Joseph islands, where anti-ship missiles are the basic weapons. Modernized Su-33 would be perfect for this job, but non modernized are not as they don't have multi role radar with air to sea modes and could not carry anti-ship missiles.
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    Post  Guest Wed Dec 28, 2016 5:58 pm

    Isos wrote:
    George1 wrote:"Russian Knights" received today the next 4 Su-30SMs, in addition to the ones previously delivered. So now they are fully re-grouped with 8 birds. russia

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    Are these combat ready ? They should give them to the airforce instead of using them for shows.

    Yes they are, its one of the requirements so pilots can normally train for combat duties too.

    They needed replacement so...
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    Post  KiloGolf Thu Dec 29, 2016 12:32 pm

    Isos wrote:
    George1 wrote:"Russian Knights" received today the next 4 Su-30SMs, in addition to the ones previously delivered. So now they are fully re-grouped with 8 birds. russia

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    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2293427.html

    Are these combat ready ? They should give them to the airforce instead of using them for shows.

    Yeah, I never quite understood the point of this in Russia... If they want to demo the plane, they should go for a solo display of one plane. Parade it in airshows all over and be done with it. If they want to have an acro team, older Su-27s should be enough. FFS they don't have many Su-30 Flankers at all, to deploy so many like that... stress them up with acrobatics. Rolling Eyes
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    Post  George1 Thu Dec 29, 2016 1:09 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:FFS they don't have many Su-30 Flankers at all, to deploy so many like that... stress them up with acrobatics. Rolling Eyes

    with the last deliveries the number of Su-30 Flankers in VKS is:
    81 Su-30SM
    20 Su-30M2

    101 in total
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    Post  KiloGolf Thu Dec 29, 2016 2:03 pm

    George1 wrote:101 in total

    Which is way too low for utilizing 4% of the fleet like that.
    They should go solo with those acrobatics or use some of their new trainers. Also plenty of older Flankers around to waste in that department.

    my two cents
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    Post  miketheterrible Thu Dec 29, 2016 3:24 pm

    They will get more. Its just that they give to this group first. There will be plenty more orders so lots of work still given.
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    Post  medo Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:11 pm

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2395476.html

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    KRET show diagrams of replacement of foreign components with domestic ones in Su-30SM. Thery also wrote, that radar have increased range comparing to export one and new ESM equippment.
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    Post  KomissarBojanchev Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:26 am

    franco wrote:Here is a bit of a surprise. The next unit to convert to the Su-30SM will be the 14th Guards Regiment at Kursk presently flying the Mig-29SMT. No word on where the Mig's will then transfer to.

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2289926.html

    WTF? Why not replace unupgraded MiG-29S or Su-27s?
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    Post  miketheterrible Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:31 am

    medo wrote:http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2395476.html

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    KRET show diagrams of replacement of foreign components with domestic ones in Su-30SM. Thery also wrote, that radar have increased range comparing to export one and new ESM equippment.

    Please, provide more details.
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    Post  GarryB Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:07 am

    WTF? Why not replace unupgraded MiG-29S or Su-27s?

    If that unit got MiG-29SMT upgraded aircraft it probably needed them... which suggests when newer aircraft become available then newer aircraft will be deployed there and their upgraded MiG-29SMTs can be transferred elsewhere to where they are needed more.
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    Post  medo Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:38 pm

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2439802.html



    RuAF Su-30SM and Su-30M2 from Southern Military District have trainings with inflight refueling with Il-78 tanker.

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