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"Syrian" Su-30SMs returned home
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2075793.html
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Su-30 for Russian Air Force
George1- Posts : 18523
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It is interesting to see, that all four Su-30SM return without ECM pods, so those two pods from the first group remain in Syria. It Will be interesting to see, if the new group will be fully equipped with ECM pods and if they will be armed with R-77-1 missiles as well as Su-35.
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First Su-30SM ready for the Russian Knights aerobatic team at Kubinka. Apparently 6 will be delivered by years end.
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2134724.html
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2134724.html
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According to this article only 16 Su-30SM's to be delivered this year. Two to Naval Aviation, six to the Aerobatic Team and eight to Fighter units.
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2160364.html
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2160364.html
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Six to the aerobatic team? WTF I'd say we need more modern fighters in service in active units...
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VladimirSahin wrote:Six to the aerobatic team? WTF I'd say we need more modern fighters in service in active units...
The flight team is used as a promotional tool. If they fly old defective aircraft they could have accidents which greatly diminishes confidence in our products. It also hurts national morale which is more important than anything. Public Relations is half the game both in war and in sales.
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Vladimir79 wrote:VladimirSahin wrote:Six to the aerobatic team? WTF I'd say we need more modern fighters in service in active units...
The flight team is used as a promotional tool. If they fly old defective aircraft they could have accidents which greatly diminishes confidence in our products. It also hurts national morale which is more important than anything. Public Relations is half the game both in war and in sales.
That's true actually, I reacted too early it's just we need more modern aircraft in service.
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franco wrote:According to this article only 16 Su-30SM's to be delivered this year. Two to Naval Aviation, six to the Aerobatic Team and eight to Fighter units.
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2160364.html
franco, Su-30s for aerobatic team are included in the number of total orders?? (30+30+28) ??
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Apparently so, the third order was for 36 aircraft wasn't it. I believe the 88 figure is that of aircraft due for delivery by the end of 2018. So 10 for Naval Aviation and 72 for VKS delivered by the end of 2016. That leaves 34 (18+16) for delivery in 2017 and 2018.
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One Su-30SM delivered to Russian Navy
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2160364.html
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2160364.html
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The group "Russian Knights" has received four Su-30SM
According to reports on the web-site forums.airforce.ru, October 8, 2016, these four aircraft flew to the place of permanent stationing of "Russian Knights" at the Kubinka airfield near Moscow.
Total in 2012 for the Ministry of Defense of Russia was contracted 116 Su-30cm, of which 88 are intended for the Air Force (FSI) of Russia, and 28 - for the Russian Navy Naval Aviation. So far, so VKS Russia within the framework of the signed contracts received 60 Su-30SM, and the Naval aviation - nine.
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2170525.html
According to reports on the web-site forums.airforce.ru, October 8, 2016, these four aircraft flew to the place of permanent stationing of "Russian Knights" at the Kubinka airfield near Moscow.
Total in 2012 for the Ministry of Defense of Russia was contracted 116 Su-30cm, of which 88 are intended for the Air Force (FSI) of Russia, and 28 - for the Russian Navy Naval Aviation. So far, so VKS Russia within the framework of the signed contracts received 60 Su-30SM, and the Naval aviation - nine.
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2170525.html
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I hope Irkut will deliver more of them soon.
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Why don't they order just Su-35 ? It's better than Su-30 in all aspects.
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Isos wrote:Why don't they order just Su-35 ? It's better than Su-30 in all aspects.
I think Su-30SM is actually a double seat Su-35
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Isos wrote:Why don't they order just Su-35 ? It's better than Su-30 in all aspects.
Its alot more expencive actually, almost double expencive actually when you take everything in count.
30SM on other hand is tandem seater with almost identical kinematic performance, payload and range but is less capable in terms of avionics, but is quite alot cheaper and allows introduction in numbers to replenish decaying T-10 fleet. And current goal is to get rid of MiG-29s and oldest T-10s asap.
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Only if by "Su-35" you mean the old Su-27M developed during the very last years of the Soviet Union. Su-35S is an entirely different machine, with deep changes to the airframe, much newer engines and avionics.George1 wrote:Isos wrote:Why don't they order just Su-35 ? It's better than Su-30 in all aspects.
I think Su-30SM is actually a double seat Su-35
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Two more Su-30SM delivered to Millerovo;
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2194760.html
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2194760.html
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Till now for 2016
Su-30SM Navy - 1
Su-30SM AF - 2
Su-30SM Knights - 4
Su-30SM Navy - 1
Su-30SM AF - 2
Su-30SM Knights - 4
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franco- Posts : 7057
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The next Su30SM is apparently ready for the Naval Aviation and is flying to Yeisk, the Naval Aviation Training Center. The writer suggests this aircraft will be the first for the Baltic Fleet squadron.
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2257873.html
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2257873.html
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Interesting picture of Su-30SM armed with R-77-1 and R-73 AAMs and KH-31 missiles flying over the sea. I wonder if this Su-30SM is one from contingent in Syria? Would be nice if RuAF finaly equip them with Hibiny ECM pods like Su-35 are.
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It is the same plane and the same session of this photo:
This seems to be the Astrakhan area, taken over the lower Volga and the Caspian sea coast.
This seems to be the Astrakhan area, taken over the lower Volga and the Caspian sea coast.
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Another Naval Aviation Su-30SM delivered with 2 more to follow shortly. Will make the unit in Crimea up to full squadron size;
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2290633.html
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2290633.html
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Here is a bit of a surprise. The next unit to convert to the Su-30SM will be the 14th Guards Regiment at Kursk presently flying the Mig-29SMT. No word on where the Mig's will then transfer to.
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2289926.html
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2289926.html
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franco wrote:Here is a bit of a surprise. The next unit to convert to the Su-30SM will be the 14th Guards Regiment at Kursk presently flying the Mig-29SMT. No word on where the Mig's will then transfer to.
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2289926.html
Seems like 29s have no future in RuAF at all.
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Militarov wrote:franco wrote:Here is a bit of a surprise. The next unit to convert to the Su-30SM will be the 14th Guards Regiment at Kursk presently flying the Mig-29SMT. No word on where the Mig's will then transfer to.
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2289926.html
Seems like 29s have no future in RuAF at all.
A wide choice would be to hand all their MiG-29s (incl. SMTs) to Armenia and Syria. Focus on the Flankers and future PAK FA.