Mistral News thread

macedonian wrote:

Zivo wrote:US lawmakers urge France to sell Mistral warships to NATO, not Russia

http://rt.com/news/162412-france-warships-sale-russia/

I doubt that will happen, but it certainly will deter Russia from further NATO-state purchases.

Not only Russia, the French will have problems selling weapons to anyone outside NATO (or US satellite states). Even if the deal goes through in the end, with all this talk of canceling the contract under American pressure potential clients will be wary of making a deal with France.

Such is the life of a puppet state.
The once proud French nation under de Gaulle is now a shadow of what it used to be.
In the not so distant future the guillotine might make a reappearance, and I'd be very afraid if I was Hollande or Sarcozy...  

TASS wrote:ST. PETERSBURG, June 26. /ITAR-TASS/. Russia’s Baltic Shipyard on Thursday, June 26, shipped the stern of the second Mistral-type landing ship to France for assembly.

The shipment was initially scheduled for early July. “This means that the Baltic Shipyard has fulfilled all of its obligations to the customer - the STX France shipyard by preparing the stern of the second Russian Mistral for shipment within the time period provided for in the contract,” United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC) spokesperson Alexei Kravchenko said.

fragmachine wrote:​France to deliver Mistral ships to Russia, if no new EU sanctions introduced
Two French Mistral aircraft carriers will be delivered to Russia on time, if no further sanctions are introduced by the EU against Moscow, French President Francois Hollande said. “France will fulfill its contract obligations and sees no obstacles for delivering the warships on time,” Hollande said in Brussels. “The situation will be certainly different…, if European sanctions are imposed [against Russia],” Itar Tass quotes. Under the contract, Russia is to receive the first of the two warships in October this year.

source: RT.com

US Justice Dept to announce near-$9bn fine for France’s BNP –
reports The US Justice Department is expected to unveil on Monday a settlement with BNP Paribas involving a record fine of nearly $9 billion, Reuters said. The fine comes over alleged US sanctions violations by France’s biggest bank, sources said. The penalties may also include a temporary ban on some dollar-clearing business and could hit BNP’s dividend payout, regulatory capital ratios and its investment banking targets, analysts say. BNP is expected to plead guilty to a criminal charge in Manhattan Federal Court on Monday."

Vann7 wrote:

fragmachine wrote:​France to deliver Mistral ships to Russia, if no new EU sanctions introduced
Two French Mistral aircraft carriers will be delivered to Russia on time, if no further sanctions are introduced by the EU against Moscow, French President Francois Hollande said. “France will fulfill its contract obligations and sees no obstacles for delivering the warships on time,” Hollande said in Brussels. “The situation will be certainly different…, if European sanctions are imposed [against Russia],” Itar Tass quotes. Under the contract, Russia is to receive the first of the two warships in October this year.

source: RT.com

This is how U.S.. control  The European Union.. including France.. and force them to do as they are told..

From RT today..

US Justice Dept to announce near-$9bn fine for France’s BNP –
reports The US Justice Department is expected to unveil on Monday a settlement with BNP Paribas involving a record fine of nearly $9 billion, Reuters said. The fine comes over alleged US sanctions violations by France’s biggest bank, sources said. The penalties may also include a temporary ban on some dollar-clearing business and could hit BNP’s dividend payout, regulatory capital ratios and its investment banking targets, analysts say. BNP is expected to plead guilty to a criminal charge in Manhattan Federal Court on Monday."

So basically This is how The Exceptional US rogue state use the US banking system ,to blackmail their European allies through extortion and sabotage to their economies using fabricated charges.. In the case of Germany they
are pretty much owned because they have 370 million tons of Gold in US banks in New York.. and they invent any excuse to not give back their Gold ,that is not ready for the transfer.   That said..if the Neocons really wants something from Europe ,they can get it ,by extortion and sabotage to their economies.

So France have the option to back down the Mistral deal in order to get the fine to their banks forgiven or they can go ahead with the mistral and risk losing a lot more through extortion. The US in alliance with jewish bankers is a mafia terrorist state that surpass any other criminal organization in the world ever created,and if the Europeans do not wake up now and do not stand against the Neocons mafia and rebel ,they will wake up one day ,
with US homeland security heavily armed police at their doors ,across all europe replacing their own authority and nation sovereingnity . THis is what is all about US foreign Policy,which is controlled by jews banking elite ,that is creating a one World  banking system with one world Government all controlled by them. And thats the reason why
the west is at war with Russia.  They are the only ones that stand in the way against the american-jewish Fascist world empire.

So the mistral sale is obvious France is highly interested on it ,however the retaliation of US to France economy can be bigger through the Jewish Elite Banks. When France is saying that they could cancel the sale if the EU do more sanctions.. is because they are trying to get all EU in the same boat. So they saying if we will be doomed ,then all the EU will have to be doomed too..means the ball is on the side of the white house and they only will need to pressure all EU ,with major economic sanctions against Russia , and that france is saying they do not want to be alone with US retaliation  to their economy so is forcing US to retaliate all EU with sabotage to their economies too ,if they want to sanction Russia.  

So is indeed very interesting the developments happening between US -EU and Russia.. because the Ukraine conflict that was provoked by US congress, perfectly illustrate to the EU what they are ,colonies of US and will have them thinking about if they want to continue being slaves of US with a very hostile relation based on extortion or if they will fight back.  Austria is already is on full rebellion , they signed the southstream regardless of US pressure and will go ahead with south stream pipeline no matter what the US state department says to their EU colonies.

It remains to be see if France,Germany and the EU will rebel too.So things to carefully pay attention is to the
South Stream pipeline and Mistral sale. if both projects go ahead regardless of the white house and US congress and Senate rage then it will be a major blow in the face to Obama administration and US elite banking system.The fight to defend their interest and not americans ones is at full scale in EU,so is going to be very interesting.  
believe it or not there is an Intense fight behind the scenes of Pressure to the EU to stop trading with Russia
something that will bankrupt their economies if Russia leave and or retaliate because they import a lot from them.

On another note Russia is already near signing another Energy deal with China  
For 30 Billion Cubic Meter natural gas per year for 30 years for the western part.. the contract should be close to US $400 billions. so thats about $800 billions contract for gas with China alone. And India is already saying is ready for an extension of that second China pipeline to extend all the way to their territory. that should be close to $400 billions too. from US $ 1 - 1.2 trillions ,Russia will be making contracts.  This means that in the next decade Russia pretty much will be fully Independent nation of the EU and will have nothing to worry about any US blackmailing of EU.And and will be filthy rich . Because Asia is highly undeveloped and the energy consumption can only go up with the development of EuroAsian nations. China own numbers estimate their Gas consumption with near tripe in just 10 years. So expect more mega sales of energy.

Putin told today...
"We know about the pressure that our American partners put on the French so that they would not deliver the Mistral [ships] to Russia,” Putin said. “And we know that [they] hinted that if the French don't deliver Mistral, sanctions on banks will be gradually removed, or at least minimized. What is this, if not blackmail?"

Austin wrote:EU third level of sanctions can hamper Mistral supplies to Russia - defence minister

GarryB wrote:Stealth cruiser?

Where will the engine for that come from?.

Flyingdutchman wrote:http://en.ria.ru/news/20140730/191483499/Russia-Could-Build-Mistral-Class-Ships-on-Its-Own--Rogozin.html

Why not build another two yourself after the sevastopol and vladivostok?

A Russian defense official said two French-built Mistral-class warships on order for the Russian navy will be retrofitted with Russian weapons systems after their delivery, signaling that Western sanctions against Russia may have succeeded in scaling back the military technology transfer proposed in the Mistral sale deal.

"The construction of the Vladivostok [the second Mistral ship] is being completed. … She will be retrofitted with Russian-made weapons at port [in St. Petersburg]," Igor Sevastyano, a spokesman for Russia's state arms import and export agency was quoted by news agency Interfax as saying Wednesday at an arms expo outside Moscow.

France's 2011 deal to supply Russia with two Mistral assault ships was part of a 1.2 billion euro ($1.6 million) technology transfer agreement. Officials have remained coy about exactly what cutting edge French technology would be supplied along with the ships, but the expectation was that the deal would be a major boost to Russia's technical military expertise.

But since Russia's annexation of Crimea from Ukraine in March, the West has been expanding sanctions against Russia. In July, the country's defense industry was hit by an EU arms embargo. While stopping short of actually prohibiting the delivery of the ships and transfer of related shipbuilding technologies, this appears to have nixed the possibility of the warships from being outfitted with advanced French gear.

The first of the two warships, the Sevastopol, has already been launched and is undergoing final preparations for its delivery to the Russian navy later this year, while its sister ship, the Vladivostok, is not expected to be delivered until November 2015.

Washington and several of its NATO allies have pressured Paris to ax the deal, which Western leaders believe will enable potential Russian military aggression against NATO member states and pro-Western post-Soviet states near the Black Sea.

France, for whom the loss of the contract would be a major economic blow, has resisted pressure to withhold delivery of the first Mistral. French President Francois Hollande said in July the decision to follow through on the second vessel would "depend on Russia's attitude," referring to Moscow's support of separatists in eastern Ukraine, Reuters reported.

If everything goes according to plan and Moscow receives its new warships, the vessels will begin their induction into the Russian navy by stopping off at St. Petersburg's Northern Wharf shipyard to receive a full complement of Russian-made weapons systems.

Russian sailors are currently training on how to operate the warships, which are unlike anything else currently serving in the Russian navy. Although one Soviet-era aircraft carrier remains in service, it is plagued by technical troubles. The Mistral-class amphibious assault helicopter carriers are significantly more advanced in the areas of command and control systems, as well as communications.