The T-80s future in the Russian Army

Burlak had 22 in the AZ AL and 22 in the turret bustle AL:

So the bustle autoloader is smaller on the Burlak than the Black Eagle.

It makes sense I suppose, the Black Eagle didn't have any other ammo so having 31 rounds in the turret bustle made sense.

With the Burlak with another 22 rounds in the underfloor autoloader they didn't need a huge number in the turret bustle so only having 22 in there makes it a smaller target and also lighter.

Sadly they decided it was too exposed and easily targeted by enemy fire to carry ammo in the turret bustle.

In WWII they found T-34s and other tanks with decent turret bustles were vulnerable to enemy troops placing satchel charges under them and setting off any ammo stored in there.

From a design point of view a turret bustle is nice because its weight offsets the frontal weight of the turret front armour which is normally the thickest and heaviest on the tank, and also the weight of the gun barrel on the front of the turret ring... a decent autoloader not only allows long rod penetrators be be carried and used, but it allows the main gun to be located further forward in the turret allowing better elevation and depression options normally.

Of course it means anyone with an RPG-18 could detonate all the tanks ready to use ammo in the case of the Black Eagle.

Regarding the Black Eagle there were plans to make the turret bustle autoloader a complete cassette that was removable and could be ejected if it caught fire or was damaged by enemy fire. It would mean that a crane could load fully loaded turret bustle autoloader onto tanks like a rifle magazine is used to store ammo in a rifle.

With the Burlak you could have two magazines... the first with HE and HEAT and other rounds which you fit and run the autoloader but cycle the rounds into the internal autoloader instead of loading them into the gun. Once the internal autoloader is full and the external cassette autoloader is empty... remove it and load the cassette with the long rod rounds and you are ready to go...

With standard rounds projectiles and propellent stubs had to be hand loaded one part at a time into the autoloader... indicating to the system which round was being loaded into each autoloader location, so the system knew which round was where... like a drinks vending machine... you want a HEAT so the autoloader rotates to the nearest HEAT round and loads it and then its propellent stub.

BTW I actually think the Burlak programme was a T-72 based system... as confirmed by the numbers given.

The T-72 autoloader has 22 rounds in it... the T-64 and T-80 has 28 rounds in its underfloor autoloader.

64th motorized rifle brigade received modernized T-80BVM tanks

April 9th, 0:01

As the press service of the Eastern Military District reported on April 7, 2021, for the first time modern T-80BVM tanks entered service with the motorized rifle unit of the Eastern Military District. The day before, several dozen tanks arrived in Khabarovsk as part of a railway echelon. Upgraded T-80BVM tanks received for re-equipment of the tank battalion of the 64th separate motorized rifle brigade of the 35th combined-arms army of the Eastern Military District in the village of Knyaze-Volkonskoye (Khabarovsk Territory), April 2021 (c) Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation



Earlier, the personnel of the tank divisions of the motorized rifle formation passed specialized courses on retraining for new equipment. The training of specialists took place on a modern educational and material base, including the latest computerized simulators and allowing servicemen to learn the operation and combat use of modern equipment and weapons in a short time.

In the near future, the new tanks will take part in the performance of combat training tasks at one of the training grounds of the Air Defense Forces.

For reference:

T-80BVM is a Russian modernization of the T-80BV tank, developed by Omsktransmash. The modernization includes the installation of the Sosna-U multi-channel gunner sight, which includes sighting, thermal imaging, rangefinder channels, as well as a missile control channel. The tank is equipped with a 125 mm cannon, a modified GTD-1250 gas turbine engine, an armament stabilizer and a TVN-5 driver's observation device. Improving the command controllability of the tank is provided by the VHF radio station "Aqueduct" and measures have been introduced to reduce fuel consumption. To protect against enemy fire, the vehicle is equipped with anti-cumulative lattice screens, a complex of modular dynamic protection "Relic" and active protection "Arena-M". Combat weight 46 t.


BMPD comment.Thus, we are talking about the fact that the upgraded T-80BVM tanks received a tank battalion of the 64th separate motorized rifle brigade of the 35th combined-arms army of the Eastern Military District. The brigade is stationed in the village of Knyaze-Volkonskoye (Khabarovsk Territory). Previously, this tank battalion, according to known information, was equipped with T-80BV tanks.

JSC "Scientific and Production Corporation" Uralvagonzavod "on August 24, 2017 signed the first contract with the Ministry of Defense of Russia for the serial modernization of 62 T-80B tanks to the T-80BVM level (with delivery of 31 units in 2018 and 2019). T-80B to the level of T-80BVM are produced at JSC Omsk Transport Engineering Plant (Omsktransmash, part of NPK Uralvagonzavod JSC of Rostec State Corporation).

Subsequently, according to known data, in 2019 and 2020, NPK Uralvagonzavod signed at least two more contracts with the Russian Ministry of Defense for the modernization of up to 140 T-80B tanks to the level of T-80BVM.

In fact, the first battalion set of modernized T-80BVM tanks (31 tanks) under the first contract of 2017 entered only in 2019 for the rearmament of the tank battalion of the 200th separate motorized rifle brigade of the Northern Fleet.

Of the rest of the T-80BVM tanks contracted under the first contract in 2017, about 20 units receivedin two batches in August and December 2020, a tank battalion of the 423rd Guards Motorized Rifle Regiment of the 4th Guards Kantemirovskaya Tank Division of the 1st Guards Tank Army of the Western Military District. In November 2020, another batch of T-80BVM tanks was delivered to the Kazan Tank School.

The delivery of now T-80BVM tanks to the tank battalion of the 64th separate motorized rifle brigade indicates the beginning of the implementation of the following modernization contracts for the T-80BVM variant. Earlier it was reported that in 2021 the Russian Ministry of Defense plans to receive about 80 modernized T-80BVM tanks.





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magnumcromagnon wrote:

Fvck yeah, that's the stuff

Just in case there is confusion about what T-80s are for

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Some of those 64 MSBr T-80BVMs delivered last month in arctic livery, painted especially for the upcoming Victory Day parade in Khabarovsk. Earlier images show a white T-80BVM before it was fully painted

Rare picture of the T-80U showing a naked turret back in 1984.

The T-80BV was tired and had to rest during transportation

It's still in better shape than most Ukropi tanks.

Isos wrote:
I heard their t-84's ERA has so much explosives that it became dangerous for the tank itself .

The tendency of KMDB ERA to sympathetically detonate is not to be understated. Lots of T-64BM tanks on lostarmor have had substantial parts of their coverage ripped off cleanly even from just one sabot hit, nevermind the effect of setting off the couple kilos of explosives per each module. Best ERA my ass.

The T-80BV was tired and had to rest during transportation

I am guessing it was on a tank transporter truck and came towards the camera on the road to the left going a little too fast and rolled off...

Have to admit I have been a little insecure when going round the bend on occasion...

Omsk Tank Plant (Omsktransmash) sent the first batch of T-80BVM tanks to the Russian Defense Ministry in 2021. The combat vehicles were manufactured as part of the execution of the state defense order.

Inside the T-80BVM

It seems that this is a T-80BVM from an early series, since it is equipped with equipment from the French company Thales, which is replaced on later series

The place of the commander in the T-80UE-1 tank