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    Russian Ground Forces: News #1

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:04 pm

    TR1 wrote:Russian Ground Forces: News #1 - Page 31 Screenshot_3

    Russian Ground Forces: News #1 - Page 31 CmjaC

    Russian Ground Forces: News #1 - Page 31 JCGXt

    Too compliment the photos here's some footage of the turret, located at 1 minute in to the video:

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    Post  collegeboy16 Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:49 am

    They forgot the grenade launcher at the foreground, maybe they can replace the dual Kornets at one side, make a box behind it to store ammo.
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    Post  medo Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:53 am

    TR1 wrote:Hell of a sight:

    Russian Ground Forces: News #1 - Page 31 KWMiG

    To be honest, this RWS turret remind me on turret in German Puma IFV. I read somewhere, that this KBP turret was bad, because it have vulnerable FCS optics. I think they could very easily place armor around optics as Germans did with Puma. Placing more channels in optics take more space, so it become bigger.

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    Post  Zivo Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:26 am

    Who's to say the sides and rear of the optic boxes are not protected from small arms fire? There's plenty of space to sandwich ballistic material. A lightweight hardened shell around each component of the optics system seems like a good way to go IMO.

    BTW, doesn't the Puma have weight problems?
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    Post  Regular Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:52 pm

    It reminds me a bit of Polish RWS, but Russian one looks more potent.
    Russian Ground Forces: News #1 - Page 31 ZSSWtyp2plusKOBUZ

    I'm not sure about optics placement, any experts could comment more about it?
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    Post  GarryB Sun Jan 26, 2014 8:36 am

    They forgot the grenade launcher at the foreground, maybe they can replace the dual Kornets at one side, make a box behind it to store ammo.

    My favourite position for a grenade launcher upgrade is on the BMP-2 upgrade with the grenade launcher centre rear of the turret with the ammo on the roof top and the grenade launcher able to elevate independently but turn with the turret.

    I think they could very easily place armor around optics as Germans did with Puma.

    The optics on the Russian vehicle seems to have armoured covers.

    Placing more channels in optics take more space, so it become bigger.

    Hardly fair... if the German vehicle had Kornet it would need more optics channels too. Personally I would rather have an anti tank missile able to penetrate 1.4 metres of steel armour at 8.5km and shoot down enemy light aircraft or point ground targets at 10km.
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    Post  Viktor Fri Jan 31, 2014 7:25 pm

    RIP to the dead.

    WTF happened here LINK
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    Post  TR1 Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:31 pm

    Viktor wrote:RIP to the dead.

    WTF happened here LINK

    Yep, it was a T-72B3 too.

    Russian Ground Forces: News #1 - Page 31 WoV1q

    Apparently it was a human factor cock-up. RIP!

    Don't want to sound insensitive, but I shudder to think how the current army is going to handle Armatas and all the new fancy stuff.
    From photos in line units, some of the personnel are extremely careless with ammunition and such...

    By the way, same unit managed to blow a BMP up:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-isOpBNi12Y
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    Post  collegeboy16 Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:43 am

    TR1 wrote:
    Apparently it was a human factor cock-up. RIP!

    Don't want to sound insensitive, but I shudder to think how the current army is going to handle Armatas and all the new fancy stuff.
    From photos in line units, some of the personnel are extremely careless with ammunition and such...

    By the way, same unit managed to blow a BMP up:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-isOpBNi12Y
    Actually the next gen vehicles would be a lot harder to blow up intentionally or otherwise anyway, what with the crew compartment seperate from the rest of the tank. afaik there would be as much as 2 pro crew per Armata MBT, the others too maybe.
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    Post  zg18 Mon Feb 03, 2014 1:28 pm

    Defense minister Shoigu visit 74th motorized brigade and awards with Order of Kutuzov , Kemerovo - Siberia. Unit has been equipped with new uniforms.

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    Post  Austin Mon Feb 10, 2014 4:21 pm

    This is a very nice and interesting interview with Military Topographic Directorate

    Though I dont understand what they are trying to say  Sad  Can some one get key information ?



    http://www.redstar.ru/index.php/2011-07-25-15-55-32/item/14237-karty-reshayut-vsjo Maps solves everything


    Questions of "Red Star" meets Head of the Military Topographic Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces - Chief of the Topographic Service of the Armed Forces, Rear Admiral Sergei Kozlov.
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    Post  Viktor Mon Feb 10, 2014 5:10 pm

    Austin wrote:This is a very nice and interesting interview with Military Topographic Directorate

    Though I dont understand what they are trying to say  Sad  Can some one get key information ?



    http://www.redstar.ru/index.php/2011-07-25-15-55-32/item/14237-karty-reshayut-vsjo Maps solves everything


    Questions of "Red Star" meets Head of the Military Topographic Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces - Chief of the Topographic Service of the Armed Forces, Rear Admiral Sergei Kozlov.

    Austin haha Very Happy  really a good question. In Russian PVO there is a separate and elusive (to my findings) branch of army tasked to produce HQ/3D etc topographic maps of the battlefield or

    area of planing in peacetime and wartime. They are to me in unknown way integrated with Russian radar troops (separate branch) and Russian missile man (SAM). I guess they also work

    under Russian Ground Army/Airforce/Strategic and Navy. And what they do is described here:

    First, it is a theoretical basis and practical implementation topogeodesic integration and navigation support into a single system of geographic information to support the Armed Forces at various levels of military command.

    Secondly, the refinement of the structure and content of the Bank's digital cartographic information, astronomical-geodetic and gravimetric data the Defense Ministry, the development of technology of automated conversion of analog survey information into digital form, integrated presentation and problem-oriented compression processing space and terrestrial geodetic information necessary troops.

    Thirdly, improvement and organization of industrial use of automated technology to create digital terrain models and the Earth's gravitational field.

    Fourth, the development of methods for verifying gravity maps the territory of Russia, overseas territories and waters of the oceans.

    Fifthly, the definition of geodetic points in landfills, airfields and special facilities of the Armed Forces, the recalculation of coordinates from foreign systems in the domestic system of geodetic coordinates, compilation and publication of a new map of the ellipsoidal heights quasigeoid Krasowski

    etc ... etc anyway nice read ...
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    Post  flamming_python Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:36 pm

    That topographic work -

    Is it really necessary to keep this as a military role? Can this not be done by civilian specialists working for defense contractors or the MoD?

    The Russian military has been converting a lot of roles from military to civilian over the last few years.
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    Post  TR1 Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:38 pm

    And a lot of that has ended in disaster, with established military expertise lost to incompetent civilian managers and functionaries.
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    Post  flamming_python Mon Feb 10, 2014 11:30 pm

    TR1 wrote:And a lot of that has ended in disaster, with established military expertise lost to incompetent civilian managers and functionaries.

    I don't doubt it. Things are done ass-backwards in Russia all too often.

    But IMO, it's a necessary change in the long run
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    Post  Viktor Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:32 pm

    Russian army receives 4500 GLONASS devices  russia 

    New "Grot-M" in the military

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    Post  TR1 Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:46 pm

    http://gurkhan.blogspot.com/2014/02/2.html

    Wow. Reason those 3 soldiers died in the tank explosion is a factory defect.
    The defect was a crack in the gun, specifically in the breech.


    And a nice photo from UVZ, looks old though.

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t31/1912479_585925421503673_1965657640_o.jpg


    EDIT: Take it with a big pinch of salt. Russian forums are questioning the details of the report.
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    Post  TheArmenian Mon Feb 17, 2014 7:44 am

    TR1 wrote:
    And a nice photo from UVZ, looks old though.

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t31/1912479_585925421503673_1965657640_o.jpg


    Photo is not from UVZ. It is from Kurganmashzavod.
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    Post  Austin Tue Feb 18, 2014 2:39 pm

    Was this posted before

    Layouts 2S35 Coalition SV

    http://twower.livejournal.com/888964.html
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    Post  zg18 Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:12 am

    Nice photo report from Tver missile brigade Armed with "Smerch"

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    http://jury-tver.livejournal.com/175208.html
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    Post  Zivo Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:21 am

    New ground radar developed.

    32 km range

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    "[...] Digital signal processing algorithm is capable to adapt to clutter and interference environment and enables detection of moving targets and bursts of artillery shells and mortar bombs."

    http://www.npostrela.com/en/products/new-dev/104/267/
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    Post  AlfaT8 Fri Feb 21, 2014 4:39 am

    Russia to Adopt ‘Future Soldier’ Gear in Summer
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    Finally!!  attack 
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    Post  George1 Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:12 pm

    What’s Been Bought

    It’s usually challenging to discover what the Russian military bought in any given year. But it’s somewhat easier now that procurement is increasing.

    On January 14, Defense Minister Sergey Shoygu reviewed 2013 procurement in a year-opening videoconference.

    He indicated that GOZ-2013 was fulfilled at 96 percent for RDT&E, 93 percent for armament and military equipment purchases, and 91 percent for repairs and servicing. Purchases increased by 70 percent over 2012.

    Beyond that no details.

    If Shoygu’s scant and statistical, Topwar.ru’s Kirill Ryabov rescues us.

    Ryabov says GOZ-2013 amounted to 1.45 trillion rubles, two-thirds more than 2012. Roughly the same accounting as Shoygu’s 70 percent. But Ryabov’s also tracked what was bought. He doesn’t give full citations for his data. But it’s a working list.

    He starts with air defense:

    6 S-400 SAM battalions.
    6 Pantsir-S1 missile-gun systems (ZRPKs).
    24 Tor-M1-2U SAMs (SA-15 upgrade).
    12 Tunguska ZRPKs.

    More than 300 combat and support vehicles for the Ground Troops, including:

    2 Iskander-M SSM brigades (107th in the Eastern and 1st in the Southern MD).
    54 BTR-82A APCs.
    12 BMO-T flamethrowers.
    90 Tornado and Grad MLRS.
    20 Khosta SP guns.
    40 Msta-S SP howitzers.
    16 Zoopark counterbattery radars.
    16 Leyer-2 EW systems.
    10 Redut-2US communications systems.


    And reportedly more than 5,200 other vehicles and automobiles.

    http://russiandefpolicy.wordpress.com/2014/01/17/whats-been-bought/
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    Post  Viktor Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:13 am

    These are massive exercises .... (air defense, regional, aviation, VDV ...  Shocked  Very Happy )


    "Grad", "Hurricane" and "Tornado" will take part in exercises in JUVO

    Assembly will employ approximately 8500 artillery and multiple rocket launchers "Grad-M", "Hurricane," "Twister," howitzer "MSTA-S" self-propelled artillery "Nona", anti-tank guns "Rapier".
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    Post  Viktor Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:03 pm

    Interesting article from Charly blog about Russian army communications

    Russian Ground Forces: News #1 - Page 31 WvsWjUa

    http://charly015.blogspot.com/2014/03/la-gran-diferencia-entre-el-soldado_14.html

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