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Have there been any large slipping of dates recently of ships for the US navy, german or French ones?TR1 wrote:So, Grigorovich will supposedly be launched on the 28th of next month.
Hope it enters service within a year of launch. Oh well, I am well used to dates slipping.
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Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich
KomissarBojanchev- Posts : 1429
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TR1- Posts : 5435
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KomissarBojanchev wrote:Have there been any large slipping of dates recently of ships for the US navy, german or French ones?TR1 wrote:So, Grigorovich will supposedly be launched on the 28th of next month.
Hope it enters service within a year of launch. Oh well, I am well used to dates slipping.
Are you serious?
Good luck finding any major project in any major nation that has not slipped.
GarryB- Posts : 40489
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At a time when the west is cutting back budgets to the bone the future of the Russian Navy is looking very good.
A few people are getting impatient, but skills have to be learned, tools mastered, systems tested and improved.
A few people are getting impatient, but skills have to be learned, tools mastered, systems tested and improved.
navyfield- Posts : 118
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yeah youll probably say the same around 2024 ,more patience 
GarryB- Posts : 40489
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I probably will... by 2024 they will likely be launching their first nuclear powered carrier (the Kuznetsov will be fitted with a nuke power plant but was not launched with one)... and it will likely be running a few months late because of all the other super tankers that shipyard is building... 
The issue is that they are building up production capacity, but it is critical that they don't build it up too fast... otherwise when they have rebuilt the fleet they will be redundant and unemployed.
A steady growth in capacity makes sense even if it doesn't please the fanbois or the haters.
The issue is that they are building up production capacity, but it is critical that they don't build it up too fast... otherwise when they have rebuilt the fleet they will be redundant and unemployed.
A steady growth in capacity makes sense even if it doesn't please the fanbois or the haters.
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Are the zumwalt, independence, Ford, freedom and type 45 constructions delayed by many months nor years? They sure don't seem to.TR1 wrote:KomissarBojanchev wrote:Have there been any large slipping of dates recently of ships for the US navy, german or French ones?TR1 wrote:So, Grigorovich will supposedly be launched on the 28th of next month.
Hope it enters service within a year of launch. Oh well, I am well used to dates slipping.
Are you serious?
Good luck finding any major project in any major nation that has not slipped.
TR1- Posts : 5435
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KomissarBojanchev wrote:Are the zumwalt, independence, Ford, freedom and type 45 constructions delayed by many months nor years? They sure don't seem to.TR1 wrote:KomissarBojanchev wrote:Have there been any large slipping of dates recently of ships for the US navy, german or French ones?TR1 wrote:So, Grigorovich will supposedly be launched on the 28th of next month.
Hope it enters service within a year of launch. Oh well, I am well used to dates slipping.
Are you serious?
Good luck finding any major project in any major nation that has not slipped.
Yeah, Zumwalt, only cut down from 20+ units to.....3.
Ford won't be fully operational for YEARS. Have you read the reports on the ship? The catapults have no reliability so far, at all.
LCS is a clusterfuck of epic proportions.
But if you want to find actual ships being constructed slowly, no problem either. Look through the major units in major European navies.
You will find plenty examples.
The US has a 600 billion dollar budget, that is why they get it done relatively on time.
Royal Navy surface units have been doing ok timewise.
The Astute program has run into multiple delays and slip ups.
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What makes the LCS bad?
Viktor- Posts : 5796
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According to Dimi LINK we wont wait for long until the first one hits the water 
TR1- Posts : 5435
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Damn you Viktor, was about to post.
http://itar-tass.com/spb-news/926823
Finally. Ship will be launched in February.
http://itar-tass.com/spb-news/926823
Finally. Ship will be launched in February.
Viktor- Posts : 5796
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TR1 wrote:Damn you Viktor, was about to post.
http://itar-tass.com/spb-news/926823
Finally. Ship will be launched in February.
Im on the roll
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Some news on Upgraded Shtil-1
Test head launcher SAM "Calm 1" on the multipurpose frigate 11356 planned for this summer
http://vpk.name/news/104698_ispyitanie_golovnoi_puskovoi_ustanovki_zrk_shtil1_na_mnogocelevom_fregate_proekta_11356_zaplanirovano_na_leto_etogo_goda.html
is this upgraded Shtil-1 with new Guidance ?
http://vpk.name/news/104698_ispyitanie_golovnoi_puskovoi_ustanovki_zrk_shtil1_na_mnogocelevom_fregate_proekta_11356_zaplanirovano_na_leto_etogo_goda.html
What guidance system with that? She then underwent modernization or even entirely transferred by inheritance from Hurricane "as is"?
At least IR channel added with the same upgraded Arrow-10M4
New GOS with three receivers working in contrasting photos, and infrared spectral bands jamming provides breeding targets against optical interference and spectral trajectory characteristics and greatly improves noise immunity complex.
Test head launcher SAM "Calm 1" on the multipurpose frigate 11356 planned for this summer
http://vpk.name/news/104698_ispyitanie_golovnoi_puskovoi_ustanovki_zrk_shtil1_na_mnogocelevom_fregate_proekta_11356_zaplanirovano_na_leto_etogo_goda.html
Ekaterinburg, February 3. (ARMS-TASS). Test head launcher (PU) anti-missile (SAM) "Calm 1" will be held at the multipurpose frigate 11356 summer 2014 journalists today said CEO Research and Production Enterprise "Start" im.Yatskina Marat Izgutdinov.
"Now the company is completing assembly of the head of the launcher. According to the plan this summer, it must be delivered to the multi-purpose frigate in Kaliningrad," - said General Director.
According to him, the UE will be mounted to the deck of the frigate.
As previously reported, SAM "Calm 1" with a launcher 3S90E.1 to be delivered to the Navy in 2014 3S90E.1 allows you to place a different number of modules of 12 containers with rockets launchers on ships of various types, according to ITAR-TASS. The original technical solution allows the SAM and previously built ships with their minor upgrade.
As stated Izgutdinov through this installation combat grade Russian ships will be improved significantly.
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is this upgraded Shtil-1 with new Guidance ?
http://vpk.name/news/104698_ispyitanie_golovnoi_puskovoi_ustanovki_zrk_shtil1_na_mnogocelevom_fregate_proekta_11356_zaplanirovano_na_leto_etogo_goda.html
What guidance system with that? She then underwent modernization or even entirely transferred by inheritance from Hurricane "as is"?
At least IR channel added with the same upgraded Arrow-10M4
New GOS with three receivers working in contrasting photos, and infrared spectral bands jamming provides breeding targets against optical interference and spectral trajectory characteristics and greatly improves noise immunity complex.
TR1- Posts : 5435
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That is not Shtil, that is the missile from Strela-10 I think.
However the Shtil news are encouraging, further support to the idea that the first ship will have VLS
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EDIT: Strela-10m4.
However the Shtil news are encouraging, further support to the idea that the first ship will have VLS
.EDIT: Strela-10m4.
Viktor- Posts : 5796
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2 more days until first one hits the water
New warship to Russia's Black Sea Fleet was launched on March 14 See the original material on http://www.interfax.ru/russia/364105
New warship to Russia's Black Sea Fleet was launched on March 14 See the original material on http://www.interfax.ru/russia/364105
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Hey Austin, that is definitely an SA-13 missile, but the second photo of the optical ports on the side of the missile suggests a laser proximity fuse... more accurate and reliable than a radio proximity fuse and harder to interfere with...
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Nice 
first frigate "Admiral Grigorovich" new 11356 launched in Kaliningrad
first frigate "Admiral Grigorovich" new 11356 launched in Kaliningrad
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Viktor wrote:Nice
first frigate "Admiral Grigorovich" new 11356 launched in Kaliningrad
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No gun yet......lame.
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And no Shtil yet either it looks like (though that does confirm it is VLS ) ...inside looks barely finished....yeah this guy isn't going to be in service until 2015.
Contract missed by a bout a year.
Oh well, there has been worse.
) ...inside looks barely finished....yeah this guy isn't going to be in service until 2015.Contract missed by a bout a year.
Oh well, there has been worse.
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TR1 wrote:No gun yet......lame.
C'mon! You should support Russian Navy more! You are so unpatriotic!
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TR1 wrote:And no Shtil yet either it looks like (though that does confirm it is VLS
Contract missed by a bout a year.
Oh well, there has been worse.
Oh well. Once its finished, it will be grand. This ship is quite important, and even though its based off of the version sold to India, this one is far superior with VLS. Such ship, once finished, will serve well.
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sepheronx wrote:TR1 wrote:And no Shtil yet either it looks like (though that does confirm it is VLS
Contract missed by a bout a year.
Oh well, there has been worse.
Oh well. Once its finished, it will be grand. This ship is quite important, and even though its based off of the version sold to India, this one is far superior with VLS. Such ship, once finished, will serve well.
Newer gun too, and most importantly new combat-information system.
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TR1 wrote:sepheronx wrote:TR1 wrote:And no Shtil yet either it looks like (though that does confirm it is VLS
Contract missed by a bout a year.
Oh well, there has been worse.
Oh well. Once its finished, it will be grand. This ship is quite important, and even though its based off of the version sold to India, this one is far superior with VLS. Such ship, once finished, will serve well.
Newer gun too, and most importantly new combat-information system.
Forgot about those. It is just that VLS system is so cool and it is nice to hear that is the way Russian mod is wanting to go for Navy vessels.
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They are just launching her... they are not sending her off to war...
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