Military budget of the Russian Federation

Austin wrote:Russian Military Spending to Increase Next Year Despite Sanctions - Reports

MOSCOW, September 17 (RIA Novosti) – Russian military spending will grow in 2015 as planned despite the economic problems the country is currently facing, the Vedomosti newspaper reports Wednesday citing a note to the draft 2015-2017 federal budget.

The national defense allocations for the federal budget are planned to increase by 21.2 percent next year, reaching 3.032 trillion rubles ($79 billion).

"This means real growth in defense spending, since, according to the draft, inflation is expected to stand at 6 percent in 2015. Meanwhile, in 2016 and 2017 the real growth rate in military spending will be negligible and close to inflation: 7.8 percent in 2016, reaching 3.23 trillion rubles [$84 billion], and 4 percent in 2017, reaching 3.36 trillion rubles [$87 billion]," Vedomosti reports.

Good, let's hope it gets put to good use!

Several news agency said that, on 7th October, Russian Minister of Finance Anton Siluanov claimed that Russia do not have enough money for the total modernization of the Army and he demanded a cheaper and more cost-effective program.

http://www.rferl.org/content/russia-siluanov-finance-minister-military-spending/26625888.html
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/07/us-russia-economy-spending-defence-idUSKCN0HW1H420141007

Andbody who can read Russian please verify this information. If the information is true, I have to say this is not a good news.

higurashihougi wrote:Several news agency said that, on 7th October, Russian Minister of Finance Anton Siluanov claimed that Russia do not have enough money for the total modernization of the Army and he demanded a cheaper and more cost-effective program.

http://www.rferl.org/content/russia-siluanov-finance-minister-military-spending/26625888.html
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/07/us-russia-economy-spending-defence-idUSKCN0HW1H420141007

Andbody who can read Russian please verify this information. If the information is true, I have to say this is not a good news.

Sounds like another Serdyukov to me.

AlfaT8 wrote:

higurashihougi wrote:Several news agency said that, on 7th October, Russian Minister of Finance Anton Siluanov claimed that Russia do not have enough money for the total modernization of the Army and he demanded a cheaper and more cost-effective program.

http://www.rferl.org/content/russia-siluanov-finance-minister-military-spending/26625888.html
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/07/us-russia-economy-spending-defence-idUSKCN0HW1H420141007

Andbody who can read Russian please verify this information. If the information is true, I have to say this is not a good news.

Sounds like another Serdyukov to me.

This guy is financial, so I doubt he really cares much about the forces themselves. They can afford it, but they need to cut costs here and there etc (better manage the money going into projects).

higurashihougi wrote:Several news agency said that, on 7th October, Russian Minister of Finance Anton Siluanov claimed that Russia do not have enough money for the total modernization of the Army and he demanded a cheaper and more cost-effective program.

http://www.rferl.org/content/russia-siluanov-finance-minister-military-spending/26625888.html
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/07/us-russia-economy-spending-defence-idUSKCN0HW1H420141007

Andbody who can read Russian please verify this information. If the information is true, I have to say this is not a good news.

I think Putin will have to do the same as Medvedev did few years ago, when Kasyanov oppose financing of rearmament program and throw him out from government. Russia is on a brink of big war, WW3 and every cent spend on the denfense is worth a lot, because for every cent, they will not spend on defense, they will have to spend 10 $ for rebuilding of destroyed country. When the war start, it is too late to start investing in defense.

higurashihougi wrote:Several news agency said that, on 7th October, Russian Minister of Finance Anton Siluanov claimed that Russia do not have enough money for the total modernization of the Army and he demanded a cheaper and more cost-effective program.

http://www.rferl.org/content/russia-siluanov-finance-minister-military-spending/26625888.html
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/07/us-russia-economy-spending-defence-idUSKCN0HW1H420141007

Andbody who can read Russian please verify this information. If the information is true, I have to say this is not a good news.

Radio Free Europe is a Prima Faci case of a U.S. State Dept./Pentagon backed megaphone/echo-chamber/mouth-piece/black-propaganda media outlet, that still propagates the fanciable and fictitious myths and erroneous claims of the current Kiev junta, and I also pointed out in a "white-paper" (obtained through a FOIA request) that proved that Radio Free Europe was one of Stephen Bandera's earliest post-war supporters:

http://www.foia.cia.gov/sites/default/files/document_conversions/1705143/STUDIES%20IN%20INTELLIGENCE%20NAZI%20-%20RELATED%20ARTICLES_0015.pdf

sepheronx wrote:I dont see it on russian news. That said, they always try to slash the military budget, even when they barely had any money going to military.

Wont happen.

It's Radio Free Europe, the crazy cat lady down the street has just as much credibility. Kudrin was given the boot for a reason, the more the Central Bank push's the 'Siloviki's' buttons, the greater likeness that Glazyev collectively gives them the boot and federalizes the whole damn operation!

I really hope that the Russians don't cut any budgets or any corners. If this is done correctly, then in 5-7 years, Russia will see the fruits of their hardwork(more arms exports=more jobs, resources to invest in advanced technology). The money has to go to the military and not to corruption(this is the big deal).

par far wrote:I really hope that the Russians don't cut any budgets or any corners. If this is done correctly, then in 5-7 years, Russia will see the fruits of their hardwork(more arms exports=more jobs, resources to invest in advanced technology). The money has to go to the military and not to corruption(this is the big deal).

The thing about corruption is that almost every army in the world has it, we will never because the mainstream media will never tell us but the US army has the most corruption. If you do research about the Iraq war and the Afghanistan war, then you will see that there was a lot of corruption and billions and billions of dollars were wasted. One the examples is the company that was hired to wash the soldiers uniforms were paid billions of dollars but they were cutting so many corners(using old machines, not enough water and in some causes don't using soap at all. There is video on YouTube where the soldiers are talking about how companies ripped off the US army and nothing was done.

sepheronx wrote:http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/753784

Figured it wasnt going to happen. Defense spending will still be on track.

All bark, no bite...

sepheronx wrote:

Mike E wrote:

sepheronx wrote:http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/753784

Figured it wasnt going to happen. Defense spending will still be on track.

All bark, no bite...

Who? Defense ministry or Economics minister?

Economics minister is far from reliable as he cant provide a clear indication on amount of capital outflow or growth. Sad really for an economics minister.

Who do you think? - The economics minister of course... 

I've been hearing about funding cuts in the Russian rearmament programs for years now, and as we all know, only the opposite has occurred... - You are right about him though, they already *been* paying for this budget, so why the fuss?

No.

In fact the massive US spending is what led to Germany, Japan and others to catch up in the 70s and 80s.

Defense spending helps an economy up to a small point. Past that it is very dubious as to how much it helps, compared to actual intelligent civilian spending.

This is Econ 101, not rocket science.
Trying to push Russia's economy primarily through defense spending is asinine.

lol @ you bringing up foreign contracts. The total amount the Russian defense industry swindles yearly grossly outpaces any foreign spending.


Threatening to buy abroad was the only good thing Serdykov did. There is a reason the Russian MIC got so angry about it- hard to sit on your ass when the MOD will not just buy whatever shit you peddle it.

Just bile is a great explanation for 99% of the posts here.

Continue your sad circle jerk though .
Fueling an economy through defense, might be the dumbest thing I have read in weeks. A sad lack of any economic knowlege. Then again, by most of your posts you don't know squat period, certainly not about anything in the military field.

Russia's economy is corrupt and shitty, I know it is hard to see when you don't step inside its border for two minutes .

sepheronx wrote:Yeah, then look at the cost of those imported weapons like glocks.

You don't need to buy things outright in large amounts.

The threat of doing so is enough, see KAMAZ and suddenly their competence at making decent MRAPs.

TR1 wrote:Just bile is a great explanation for 99% of the posts here.

Continue your sad circle jerk though .
Fueling an economy through defense, might be the dumbest thing I have read in weeks. A sad lack of any economic knowlege. Then again, by most of your posts you don't know squat period, certainly not about anything in the military field.

Russia's economy is corrupt and shitty, I know it is hard to see when you don't step inside its border for two minutes .

Typical, spewing crap about others' posts, while yours itself is full of fluff!

Ever hear of the US economy? It is heavily based in military spending, hence the power of the MIC. Of course you will deny this, because you are having an affair with the US. - This fact cannot be denied, even the hardest of hard core "patriots" here will admit that our economy is directly influenced by the MIC. So, by your definition of the US and its economy being perfect, Russia is heading in the correct direction, right? For all I care you are a Crony Capitalistic Keynesian! 

Why the obvious Russophobia? Their economy is doing great *considering the level of sanction on top of them*. It has been improving for some time now, and has much less debt (which is what really counts) per capita than most Western countries. TR1, you accuse me of posting crap-filled, idiotic comments, I suggest you look at your own first!

 - Don't even try to say that Western economies are all perfect and that kind of crap. They are *all* bubble-based economies which hide their real problems. - I LIVE in one for crying out loud!

sepheronx wrote:http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/753784

Figured it wasnt going to happen. Defense spending will still be on track.

There wasnt a single economy minister that did not want to cut the defense spending and jet not one did. I suppose this tango will last until the very end.

Russian Defense Budget to Hit Record $81 Billion in 2015

Russia's national defense budget for next year will reach a record 3.3 trillion rubles ($81 billion), or 4.2 percent of the country's GDP, the head of the State Duma's defense committee, Admiral Vladimir Komoyedov, was quoted as saying by the Interfax news agency on Thursday.

The 2015 budget represents an 812 billion ruble ($20 billion) increase over this year, and portends a larger defense budget over the next several years. Russia's GDP this year is forecast at just over $2 trillion, according to the World Bank, and Russia's Finance Ministry expects it to grow by a mere 1 percent in 2015, state news agency TASS reported.

According to Komoyedov, the Duma plans to spend 3.1 trillion rubles ($76 billion), or 3.7 percent of GDP, on defense in 2016 and 3.23 trillion ($79 billion), or 3.6 percent of GDP, in 2017.

“These parameters are significantly higher than in 2014, when the proportion of GDP was 3.4 percent,” Komoyedov was quoted as saying by Interfax. Last year, defense expenditures made up 3.2 percent of GDP, and were a mere 3 percent in 2012.

With the exception of the United States, which spent 3.8 percent of its GDP on defense in 2013, most of the world's countries spend less than 3 percent of their GDP on their militaries, according to World Bank data. In general, U.S. defense expenditures measured in percentage of GDP have been falling sine 2010, when spending reached 4.7 percent of GDP.

However, World Bank data paints an even more drastic picture of Russia's recent defense spending than Komoyedov did. Last year the World Bank said Russia's defense budget was already 4.2 percent of its GDP.