@ http://en.rian.ru/video/20110822/166046562.html
They are mistakenly calling it fire-forget...like the not yet developed Hermes
I require other view upon the western claims that Kornet pompous range of 8km(as compared to western ATGMs <5km) is not practical in infantry roles during the battlefield
nightcrawler i will begin with the less important question among those at which i must respond ...ok?
1) The concept of "fire and forget" has nothing to do with weapon self guidiance (this,in fact,represent only one of the means to achieve the goal), but with the capability offered by some weapon systems to don't require any further effort by part of the human operator after the fire sequence's completion.
Kornet-EM (which,i remember to you,in spite of its impressive capabilities, is an
export version of a system,for internal usage,surely significatively superior...) is indeed a fire and forget weapon ; rather, in its infantry tripod version even the classical concept of "fire and forget" become a denigration of the capabilities offered by this new improved export version of Kornet.
Thanks to its very advanced automomous target guidance/following system (a first worldwide) the tripod can be
remotely controlled !!
"It also makes it possible to use its stand-alone (tripod) version which can be controlled remotely." (from KBP presentation of the system)
That,among the other things, mean that the operating team not only can move
after the fire sequence (a process,obviously, not requiring any cooling time to wait for IR FCA to reach the right temperature
) but would be in a remote position from the launching unit and probably well hided even
before the Kornet-EM shooting sequence !!!
And that is not all; this single sqaud could,at this point, reach the position of another tripod launcher previously prepared, designate another target -always controling the system from remote and without any exposition even only to choose the target- ,and eveade another time ,letting the automatic guidance do its work (KBP say that capability of the robotic system to follow or reacquire a target,even an high mobile/agile/fast one, is five times those of a well trained human operator of classical Kornet !!); all of that for a weapon capable to engage
at 10 km of range ,pratically any modern battlefield asset -with the only exception of very fast fixed wing aircrfat, and very heavily armoured targets engaged instead at 8 km - , with an impressive missile's speed and even equipable with a thermobaric warhead for engage type of targets simply impossible for other system in the same class.
Pratically this improved export version is
litterally on another planet,in respect to any other systems in the same category offered on the international market at today worldwide .....and ,as we well know, the system offered by other producer,western ones in particualar,for internetional buyers don't have an "export version" at all !!!
2) You lose your time for try to respond to an horribly biased and comically ignorant kid like the guy -a certain 500- in the topic (on another site) you have pointed to me ,when you should,at maximum, "use " it for make some laughts with friends while exposing ,one after the other, the galactical idiocies it utter while attempting pathetically to "promote" hopelessly its beloved Spike family of ATGM
.
That is a little extract from the gallery of horrors of this comical guy :For start a titanical idiocy not specifically related to the subject in wiestion:
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" Laser that does not irradiate.
You are really genius "
Ah Ah Ah !!!! What legendary ignorant !!! Laser ,or Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of
Radiation , is nothing more than a coherent
radiation in a specific wavelenght segment of electromagnetic spectrum, nothing less nothing more; therefore target surface irradiation by part of a laser beam ,like a laser range finder do, is not only obviously existing but is even
the only correct physical definition of the phenomenon in question !!! Incredible ,and this authenticate decerebrated toad got also the face to belittle its interlocutor
Another poster say: "What? how is it (Kornet) not man portable? it is carried in infantry formations the same as the rest." and now the response of our 500 :
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"Kornet missiles weights 29 kg, Spike ER - 13 kg. See the difference? Or u still believe they are same class??"
Ah Ah Ah ...Oh yes anyone at world see the difference ,above all because
the weight of Spike-ER is ....34 kg www.rafael.co.il/marketing/SIP_STORAGE/FILES/3/923.pdf
Not only but its launch canister is also about 1,70 m in lenght (167 cm )!!!! Oh yes anyone at world see the difference.
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- Let me clarify for u:
2) Spike ER is in same class with Kornet and Kornet-D. Spike again is clearly superior here.
I have laughed for half an hour (i am serious) reading that monstrous idiocy . This poster must be an unaware comical genius.
Oh yes it has clarified one time for all to be one of the greater intellectually dishonest, presumptuous ignorant on the Earth !!!
Spike-ER is a missile employable only on vehicles (for the self eveident parametrical reasons i have point previously that this idiot evidently ignore),moreover Spike-ER, like the rest of its sick family,is an authenticate turtle with a
speed of the missile of about ......130-140 m/s !!!! Ah Ah Ah (That is the Pulcinella's secret for this abortive family of missile to reach at least a decent operative range) , image that a Spike missile is so slow that ,virtually, it fall perfectly among the target engageable by Kornet-EM !!!
That don't only mean ,obviously, that a spike missile is a
very easy job for any hard kill active defence system (like you well know little increase in speed produce exponentially faster decreases in probability of intercept) and a
very easy target even for outdated SHORAD elements ,also in reason of the Spike's lofted trajectory which render not only target designationand interception dozen of times easier but increase even more the time of arrival to its intended target, but would offer to enemy target also more than
double of the time,in respect to Kornet-EM (an enormous area)
for search a batllefield element (a big rock , a group of trees, a buiding etc..etc..)
to interpose between it and the inbound missile ,or to employ soft kill inbuilt or "improvised" countermeasures like putting at 25-30 meters an IR opaque aerosol of Shtora-1's 3D17 grenades (naturally completely useless against a beam rider Kornet-E/EM coming at 270/300 m/s) or entering a near river or irrigation channel among self produced smoke screen etc..etc..
Spike missile family moreover, like any other weapon relying on missile seeker for target designation and boundary's discrimination (obviously inherently limited by unavoidable physical costraints)is not only very costly but
need also a target with clear contrast in order to obtain a reliable lock and that is the main motivation for the clamorous failure of Spike ATGM in the Indian trials.
Naturally not only Kornet/Kornet-EM enjoy
an huge kinematical advantage (both in range and speed)and destructive power on Spike family corresponding (even not taking into account that Spike-ER is only vehicle-mounted ...),but the type of different battlefield targets them can engage from vast stand off range (bunkers,helicopters,budings,UAV,CAS aircraft,IFV,machine gun nests,enemy infantry anti-tanks teams etc..etc..)put Kornet-E/EM simply on a
significantly higher level of effciency in a conflict between peer opponents.
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