UFOs & Extraterrestrial Life

starman wrote:

GarryB wrote:
100-400 billion stars in this galaxy alone and this is a small galaxy... at least 2 trillion galaxies... including some that make the Milky Way look like a grain of sand with trillions of stars in it...

Sure and we can now conclude planets are far more numerous than stars.

Can DMS be produced by a non-biological chemical reaction ? I thought JWST could not see planetary atmospheres , because of light interference from parent star ? Perhaps because this star is a dim Red dwarf , it can ! Maybe I get to know if life exists elsewhere in the universe , before I die !

Kecksburg is one of the few crash retrieval cases, other than Roswell, which appears genuine.

I heard that Kecksburg object was in fact a Russia satellite deorbit . Hence the funny hieroglyphs writing on perimeter of acorn shaped , two meter long object . I guess the antennae melted on re-entry to atmosphere . Was there a Soviet satellite / manned capsule ,  crash in North America at that time ? Should be declassified by now ?







Fake stories , news , technology and  politics . The Americans are more than most , stuck in a fake world . A mass psychosis . For example : The JWST was reported to be unable to detect planetary atmosphers , because the  light from it's Star blinded it ! Now it is supposed to be able to detect the planetary  atmosphere that is orbiting to it's Star , closer than Mercury to the Sun !

I used to think , so be it ! Let's play their game and add to their mass psychosis . They are not friendly to us , dressing GI's in monkey suit in Vietnam , to scare the superstitious locals away , to conduct military operations ! Sure anti-gravity drive works and we are spending a fortune following your captured UFO technology !

But then we are no better than CIA charlatan . Blinding the public . We are better entering the psychosis , taking the public by the hand and exiting the psychosis . The YouTube should be called mass psychosis central ! That is not to say that aliens do not exist or have not  or are not visiting Earth .

nomadski wrote:I heard that Kecksburg object was in fact a Russia satellite deorbit .

It was allegedly a Venera probe which failed. From what I've read somebody noted the "hieroglyphs" were not Russian.

Should be declassified by now ?

It would've been declassified 40-50 years ago. A space probe with technology considered obsolete well before 1980.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosmos_96

Do you have a photo of this spacecraft ? Perhaps instrumentation or material around it , burned or fractured to create " symbols , " mistaken for alien language ?











The Apollo 4 capsule is of the same time period and shows the same or similar markings or damage to body of heat shield . Could easily be mistaken for alien language . So it could have been American !

nomadski wrote:
The Apollo 4 capsule is of the same time period and shows the same or similar markings or damage to body of heat shield . Could easily be mistaken for alien language . So it could have been American !

Not a chance simply because there wasn't any such mission at the relevant time. And again, the US government would've long ago shut down talk of a crashed UFO just by disclosing what "really" fell, had the case for an apollo capsule seemed plausible.

According to the author, from the 1940's to the present time the U.S. government has involved itself in the deepest levels of secrecy involving an alien presence on the Earth. This book delves into these deeper levels and reveals exactly how and why this secrecy has been maintained. Interviews two key researchers that have had access to those at deeper security levels, or have operated at this level themselves. The first, Melinda Leslie, presents compelling evidence that the military itself is involved with the abductions of important contactees with the express purpose of gaining information from them about alien technology. Second is Bill Uhouse, who claims to have spent an entire 38-year career at the very heart of an Unacknowledged Special Access Project and made some unofficial public disclosures relating mostly to advanced technology and the goal of perfecting functional flying discs. Should be read by all serious researchers looking for that "next level" of proof, in addition to skeptics who, after reading this book, may suddenly stop laughing at the jokes of newscasters and the media view in general. Something is going on, and this book will tell you in large part, exactly what that something is. https://www.amazon.com/dp/1585091103?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

Medvedev is a troll but I am sure that the president of Russia gets a UFO dossier together with the nuclear suitcase. This is because you can bet your last kopek that
state actors will engage in all sorts of "weather balloon" incidents to engage in spying and sabotage.

As for actual visitations to Earth by aliens, colour me unimpressed. All the X-files style conspiracies are ridiculous. Why would aliens who can traverse light decades of space
need to make deals with humans. That's like you making deals with the ants in your back yard. They crashed? Really? If they are going to dispatch some investigation mission
to Earth, then may as well dispatch a force and not rinky dink craft that have no support. Recall those light decades of travel. Only retards would wing it without redundancy.

Disclaimer: the above is not about existence of alien life, it would be absurd for humans to be a singular existence in the universe. Same freaking periodic table of the elements
and abundance of Earth-like planets, around stars with similar distributions of the elements guarantees emergence of life. Evolved intelligent life may be more rare but we are
dealing with millions and millions of planets with life that have existed for billions of years. The main limitation is that such intelligent life bearing planets are not going to
be clustered in dense packs which can set up sci-fi space-faring civilizations.

https://youtu.be/78A3iL2w4FU  https://youtu.be/nPXNUCMjBtk

https://youtu.be/nVybMa6kXcI

Some say there are two possibilities : either UFO are real or we face mass hysteria . I say perhaps three possibilities , including increased Sun spot activity . If UFO are real , then nothing to discuss . Because nothing we can do will influence course of events . The same with Sun spot increased activity . But long term correlates do indicate relationship to social stress . An imposed delusion to distract from reality of war and defeat and poverty and backwardness and not being exceptional ! Blonde but not exceptional !

And should we on this forum encourage drug taking by American youth , because America is the enemy ? And they fire Rockets into Russia ? Drug taking was encouraged by the CIA in America , among the youth , to subvert the peace movement against Vietnam war . Are we the CIA ? No , reality orientation is our task . Like a psychiatrist looking after the crazies ! Or like the Radar operator asking the public to report unidentified aircraft , and not think alien saucer , and hide in shame and go crazy !

2 more interesting vids: https://youtu.be/FsKl80XIRfE

https://youtu.be/uJyxkaKO3aE

A blend of some useful content and shit. The video of supposedly MH370 being surrounded by "anti-gravity" orbs and teleported away is a joke.
There is a simple frame fade into an obviously overlaid "flash" effect. The orb CGI looks good but ain't all that. The "smoke" or turbulence effect
can be integrated into an aircraft video blank effectively with modern editing software. The main effort is to generate the orb CGI a priori which is
quite easy with modern computers. We are not back in the 1970s.

This crap was initially passed off as aliens but is now being pimped as evidence of super-duper and secret US high tech. Nonsense either way.

As for MH370 and state actors, that is more likely. Although the actual reasons may not be so easily discerned.

Brown muslim pilot. The demographic that has the highest rate of crashes, intentionally or not.

Until they let the blacks fly that is.

kvs wrote:
As for actual visitations to Earth by aliens, colour me unimpressed.   All the X-files style conspiracies are ridiculous.  Why would aliens who can traverse light decades of space
need to make deals with humans.   That's like you making deals with the ants in your back yard.  

I don't think there were "deals." ETs dictated covertly.

They crashed?  Really?   If they are going to dispatch some investigation mission
to Earth, then may as well dispatch a force and not rinky dink craft that have no support.   Recall those light decades of travel.   Only retards would wing it without redundancy.

Of course there's redundancy. Crashes (only a few of which are credible) are part of the alien plan, as The Alien Grand Design argues.

Disclaimer: the above is not about existence of alien life, it would be absurd for humans to be a singular existence in the universe.   Same freaking periodic table of the elements
and abundance of Earth-like planets, around stars with similar distributions of the elements guarantees emergence of life.   Evolved intelligent life may be more rare but we are
dealing with millions and millions of planets with life that have existed for billions of years.

Exactly. Of course one could argue a high percentage of stars--Population II--are metal deficient, but even they seem to have attained sufficient metallicity by the end of the thick disc era.


 

 The main limitation is that such intelligent life bearing planets are not going to
be clustered in dense packs which can set up sci-fi space-faring civilizations.  

Sagan estimated a single one could colonize the galaxy in a billion years.