Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 #4

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Just noise now Vann, the fact that you are critical of one side and take the other side as immediately and obviously true is amusing.

Telling me about what real health professionals say is amusing... you do understand that these are some of the most corrupt people on earth... do you think a rival big pharma company is not paying them to sabotage a rival vaccine?

How many addicts do these people have on their books taking drugs they don't really need but earn him good money...

But we can trust him when he is anti big pharma and anti government because obviously then he is right....

Have already had both jabs... no problems at all...

The world is not going to get back to normal with idiots like you encouraging people to be incubators for this virus long enough for it to mutate and require further vaccinations... in that sense you are making these big pharma companies lots of money in the long term... hope they thank you properly.

@vann

Yes, the west has experienced systemic corruption. FDA commissioners work for Big Pharma. MSM managers are interchangeable
with the managers of various corporations and serve the interests of the oligarchy. Politicians who spit on the saps that elect them
and grovel to the oligarchy.

This rot is not confined to the USA.

Gary it is actually quite amusing that you acknowledge the fact that big pharma is the most corrupt species on earth but yet you embraced their poison without question!?

Some good news from a South African perspective though >> It seems like our government has all but given up on the idea of mandatory vaccines (for now). However by doing this the government has now passed the buck to all those companies that required mandatory vaccinations for their workforce as they can now be sued - instead of the government - for any vaccine related damages.

Mir wrote:Gary it is actually quite amusing that you acknowledge the fact that big pharma is the most corrupt species on earth but yet you embraced their poison without question!?

Yep..  now you see the light.. the real Garryb..  
Someone that his own arguments contradicts himself..  

i have no contradictions in any arguments i have made..   i never oppose science , that is used in constructive ways ,to save humanity or to make humanity lives better..  

my opposition is when science used ,(as mRNA shots are) to hold power forever , by starting mass scale genocides in billions , for the slavery of the world.. that is if they can force everyone to have a time bomb vaccine in their blood , that will require vaccinations yearly or every 6 months to keep them alive , then they can effectively control all society , total control over them ,like slaves , by just fully controlling their health..  Or simple to not bother and just remove /murder everyone they believe could potentially forever oppose their system.. like christians for example or jews not brainwashed by zionism , and even some atheist ,that are good people and any people that cares about freedom , human lives and oppose their wars.

So is not science the problem.. Is a TRUST Problem....  That people dont trust in western pharma industry , what is doing today , and what was already doing in the past . People see clearly the western anglo system shots are used control AND depopulation of society... they even interfere with the reproductive system , according to some doctors information.   So i rather believe in independent doctors ,independent scientist and not the ones in the pockets of big pharma..

In more news.. Garryb will want to see this..  more proof that his lovely mRNA vaccines are NOT SAFE and dangerous. The family of Collin powell  are saying on his facebook page , that he faced complications a week after he got vaccinated that lead him to his death.

Breaking news ,fully vaccinated top star general dies from covid19 ..



from RT forum comments section...

Condor • an hour ago
His uncle tom family just posted on the Jew fakebook that he was "fully vaccinated" and developed complications after the death jab last week. Aren't modern vaccines great.Good riddance to an absolute scum.

Former 4 star general Collin powell , his family announced in facebook ,that he died do to covid19..
, he was fully vaccinated , and still died of covid19.
So why bother garryb..  what's the point of vaccinating if they don't work at all..?  those vaccines were not designed to save lives , but to create a system , that could allow them to mark everyone like cows ,that are marked for control population ,by controlling their health . So there is no protection ,zero of those vaccines  from covid19..   The real protection comes ,when the natural body system of defenses do its job and fight the covid19.

So regardless if he died from covid19 after being fully vaccinated or from the mRNA vaccine , the end result is the same..  he died .  because he trusted in his own system..  probably they wanted to get rid of him too ,for being too conservative and not liberal .

What the mRNA vaccines really do ,is make it more difficult for the body to fight any virus , that is to weaken the system of immune defenses ,on top of that some shipments of pfizer /j & J and moderna also comes with extra surprises ,poisonous substances ,parasites and metals ,as an added bonus , to guarantee their death. To those unlucky people ,they manage to trick ,into taking their jab. Or those that agreed to do it ,after threatening their jobs and leaving them homeless.

He must have come in contact with an unvaccinated person.

Ah, the irony. The little vial dangler got offed by a little vial of mRNA.

People need to stop and think. How does one die from covid complications if one is vaccinated. That implies that the vaccine
does not function as claimed. People who die from covid who are "vaccinated" are not supposed to be immune system compromised.
But the mRNA "vaccines" do compromise the immune system as I have shown with the video about the autoimmune reaction of
one Pfizer victim.

The rabid obsession of forcing millions to take the unproven mRNA "vaccines" smells of an alternative agenda. The purpose
is not to vaccinate but to engage in a massive DNA experiment. I bet the mRNA in these "vaccines" is not only for the spike
protein. They can have up to 10 mRNA strands in a single nanoparticle vector. So nothing stops Pfizer and Moderna from inserting
other mRNA molecules in those vectors. Then they wait for the data.

Yes, the west has experienced systemic corruption. FDA commissioners work for Big Pharma. MSM managers are interchangeable
with the managers of various corporations and serve the interests of the oligarchy. Politicians who spit on the saps that elect them
and grovel to the oligarchy.

This rot is not confined to the USA.

The solution is to play roulette with diseases instead of getting vaccinated?

Gary it is actually quite amusing that you acknowledge the fact that big pharma is the most corrupt species on earth but yet you embraced their poison without question!?

Their poison? Glad you are keeping an open mind.

Big Pharma are but what exactly is their pay off killing potential customers... especially in the first world where they charge the most for their potions?

I agree they don't care, but the idea that this is some illuminati hoax to reduce population numbers is absurd... they are taking an opportunity to get lots of money invested in a relatively new area of technology and we are the guinea pigs... the number of people suffering from the effects of the vaccine are tiny compared to the number of deaths to covid, but by all means continue your protest... but as you get older if you get cancer will you refuse those new cancer drugs because surely they will be poison too... it all comes from the same company trying to murder you.

Clearly you know too much already...

The family of Collin powell are saying on his facebook page , that he faced complications a week after he got vaccinated that lead him to his death.

He died because the cancer treatment drugs weakened his immune system so even with vaccination Covid still killed him you lying dirty bastard.

If you have this level of critical thinking then I am happy to take an opposing view because you pick information to suit your narrative and ignore little factors like the truth and reason... don't pretend you care about science or people... it will be a lack of numbers of people getting vaccinated that will prolong this into an ongoing situation that will take decades to sort out properly as idiots refusing vaccination become incubators to help the virus evolve and become resistant.

Big Pharma love morons like you... you will note it is governments and media wanting everyone to get vaccinated.... the big pharma companies are selling their products to countries but not doing anything to get people to vaccinate themselves because they know if everyone got vaccinated then the problem would go away much faster.

Instead a large unvaccinated portion of numbnuts like you means the virus will keep circulating and infecting and adapting and so even the people already vaccinated are going to need boosters... more income for big pharma.

Breaking news ,fully vaccinated top star general dies from covid19 ..

Top general... lying bastard you mean... got the west to invade iraq on fake evidence he knew at the time was fake.... what a .

Mir wrote:Gary it is actually quite amusing that you acknowledge the fact that big pharma is the most corrupt species on earth but yet you embraced their poison without question!?

Some good news from a South African perspective though >> It seems like our government has all but given up on the idea of mandatory vaccines (for now). However by doing this the government has now passed the buck to all those companies that required mandatory vaccinations for their workforce as they can now be sued - instead of the government - for any vaccine related damages.

you just triggered a chain of reaction in Garryb now..   he is now insulting me..  

What you see right there in that quote of garryb , that admits  the big pharma is the most corrupt scpecies ... yet he have no problems of taking the corrupt people vaccines.  does that makes any sense at all ?

Is there is anyone in this forum ,that will do business , for example deposit all their life money savings in a highly corrupt bank , that you investage and discover have many scandals of stealing money from its clients ?

Then if no one will invest their hard earned money in a very corrupt institution , then why it have to be different with vaccines?     Isn't your health and family health more important than money  ?  


Obvious questions ,with obvious answers.. nobody will trust in corrupt people or companies ,anything of value for them.. as their money and health is.


So if Garryb admits himself,that western pharma industry are very corrupt.. the he is totally detached from reality , to continue supporting them. " to save your life" as he claim.. from a virus they themselves created ,because very corrupt people ,are evil.. and nobody will bet their family lives on very corrupt west.

i bet no one will do that .. anyone with the most basic form of logic and common sense ,will not trust their hard earned money , to the most corrupt bank in your city.

But here you see GArryb , by his own words.. admission that western pharma industry is corrupt ,
but he have no problems to take their sponsored vaccines .      how is that not a fart-backward thinking.  as if a brain fuse exploded in garryb brain..   i don't think he is detached from reality as he talk..  what i believe is a very dishonest and hypocritical person .. someone who is in the forums with a clear agenda to promote poisonous vaccines and defend their false flags too , to cover up every major evil ,the west have done.  that this pandemic is just one of them , because now even the US congress , by their own words are saying they financed the laboratory from where the virus supposedly escaped.  

So garryb is sponsoring people to take the vaccines ,from the same people who at very least funded the creation of the virus that produce covid19. because by their own words of western governments, president trump and biden , the virus came likely from a china lab , but with a major funding and cooperation from american universities and federal government scientist.

So if Trump and biden correct..  and most of their intel agencies , with backup of US and all other anglo nations.  Then both US and China are complicit in creating the virus that created this pandemic.. Because if you fund it ,and helps with scientist in creating biological weapons with it,  then is your virus and they keep this hidden from public for many years ,and now that the virus escaped , then suddenly they admit they cooperated with china in creation of the virus.  

So basically garryb is telling everyone that..

1) the western pharma is very corrupt.
2) yet no worries.. they will not cheat on you with their vaccines.  


But why would the west want to poison people right ?
-to reduce their population , those that they don't like , for staying forever in power.. that's why.

money they don't need.. they can print money..  
rockefellers ,soros ,bill gates.. this clowns ,that literary are owners of anglo western pharma industry , they don't need money.  They can buy anything they want. The only thing they don't have yet , is complete and total control of population ,like true slaves ,to hold power forever ,to keep their system going ,where they control the political elite. To guarantee that people will never overthrow the system that rockefellers created , that will not stop their banking corrupt industry and remove all the corrupt politicians they have in place to keep their unlimited wealth going.  


so yet it makes a Lot of sense.. for very  corrupt people , that are super billionaires and control Anglo western policies and their courts and politicians , to want to control all population , so their system did not collapse and they can hold power forever and can continue with their pedophilia and continue doing what Jeffrey Epstein and others child abusers was doing with total peace of mind , because population will not dare to protest or overthrow a government ,if they can be so easily wiped , and do it stealthy , by blaming it on a "new virus variant".  

So im glad we all can see the true face of Garryb.. someone that play games in the forum and is intentionally trying to deceive people..  because like said.. i don't think he is silly ,as his entire arguments are.  that does not add up.. so im skeptical he actually believe the things he said..
only he knows the real reasons ,why he is defending the western corruption , not only their pharma industry ,but their politicians too , when he defends their false flags too.

So pathetic is Garryb position now ,that he needs to discredit Russian chief scientist behind sputnik v , Alexander Gintsburg too , behind russian vaccines ,that have openly said ,the mRNA shots kills many people.

So is kind of curious of what are really real intentions of him , in defending ,what can't be defended ever , that is pharma industry corruption .. unless he also stand up for corruption too .


on a different subject ,but related too..

im speechless of the times we living , what we witness today is by far ,the biggest moment in planet history ,This surpass the danger of world war 1 and world war 2 combined . because the outcome of this pandemic , the direction it goes , either to favor the west , or to favor the east , or favor no one ,will define the world future forever . Because if the west wins and Russia and china fails and collapse , the west will continue with their depopulation agenda of 90% of world population. But if the west fails.. is going to be huge , huge changes... the reparations damages ,that Anglo nations will have to do ,to the world ,will be enormous , the civil unrest that will start ,will require all europe and russia and china to invade ,to restore order in north america and uk. because people will be very very angry , when people start dying in the millions in every country in the west and doctors rebel expose , the fact ,that it was the mRNA vaccines that anglo system pushed in everyone throat , what killed them.. the anger will be crazy ... the military will rebel and divide , police will divide too.. regardless which way , the future goes, what will happen next 5 -10 years , could potentially raise to ground entire countries , more than nuclear weapons can do , if everyone take to the streets to destroy their government institutions in protest for this gmo killer hacks , they put in their bodies.

The only chance for peace , that it could be possible, and avoid all the continental civil wars , is if the anglo system ,agreed to stop their genocide and make a deal for peace with Russia and china and europe too ,to share power and a global nuclear ,biological and chemical disarmament ,ending all sanctions and restoring relations ,and ending this forced gmo vaccination posion they pushing on world population.

This is another very good one..  watch this @KVS

A former pfizer employee reveals the patents ,that protect the ip of the vaccines ,the western pharma are using to hack/vaccinate people with their poisonous jabs.  Interesting is that they appear to got the idea of the nano capsules ,from Cancer patients therapy with Chemotherapy  ,that weaken their system of immune defenses..  they first weaken your body  with the drugs inside ,the nano capsules ,and then later the parasites and metals they inject finish the job and or make you highly vulnerable to covid19 if included inside the jab ,or later.  it is important to remember how in the norway incident ,
a clinical health care center that 30 people died and other got very sick , of elder people , was covid19 free for the entire year 2020 , but as soon they vaccine everyone with pfizer , everyone got covid19 days later..   so covid19 was passed by pfizer staff on them ,with the shot This is what the owner of the care center was implying happened ,because nobody was sick ,before the vaccination since the start of the pandemic for a full year.. but a couple of days after vaccinated ,boom!!!.. everyone ,including nurses and staff that worked there ,that vaccinated with pfizer got sick and 30 from 100 died , many nurses could not return to their jobs there either . so it came from the vaccines covid too.. "as an extra gift" ,from western pharma industry. Shows how pfizer and moderna could be used as a weapon of mass killing , if they so desire it.. naturally pfizer blamed those who died for their deaths. it was people fault not theirs.

This incident proof my point ,that western pharma industry can inject in your blood whatever shit they want.. metals , parasites , covid , graphene , stainless steel, nano capsules with chemo drugs, cancer , or whatever crap they choose , in a case by case ,city by city ,country by country.  They can even use clean purified water in zones , they don't want to depopulate, and want good reviews , like major corporate media staff and politicians ,so that nothing happens..to them, but later use poison in those places  they want to depopulate.


Proof the Vax Tracks the Vaccinated. Karen Kingston Former Pfizer Employee and Biotech Analyst Exposes the Vaccine Bio-Weapon, What's In It that Harms Us & How It Tracks Humans.

https://beforeitsnews.com/agenda-21/2021/10/proof-the-vax-tracks-the-vaccinated-karen-kingston-former-pfizer-employee-and-biotech-analyst-exposes-the-vaccine-bio-weapon-whats-in-it-that-harms-us-how-it-tracks-humans-3314.html

PapaDragon wrote:
Just checking back to deliver little update, infection and death rates in Russia are through the roof but this time finally virus started killing off unvaccinated retards in 20 years of age range which means that morons who didn't get the chance to procreate and spread their filthy DNA are being culled from the population

Took it's sweet time getting here but finally some progress, looks like this virus will finally start being useful

Same thing is happening in Serbia, now if only our idiot politicians would finally stop wasting money on keeping these unvaccinated degenerates on life support and start getting back to business as usual, we wasted way too much time and money on this circus

Amount money it takes to keep just one unvaccinated retard on ventilator is absolutely heartbreaking

Serbian guy , no idea why ,but whenever you comment on anything ,remember me ,a low IQ person, with the behavior of a kid.  something like  this ... Go back to your disney cartoons and leave discussions for adults.

Everyone who has Covid that dies is instantly Covid related death.  Hence why the numbers at least in Russia is suspect.  Did they die of Covid? Did they die of something else but because they tested positive for Covid, it was Covid that killed em?

I don't believe the numbers a bit. Go through the list and see how UK has low deaths but high rate of infections. Or how turkey has extreme low deaths.

I'm thinking there is exaggerations or massive under reporting.

If I had access to sputnik though, I would be more inclined to vaccination over mRNA junk.

Those who gained natural immunity by having Covid in first place are apparently 10x more immune now to other variants. So if that's the case, why not allow the vaccines with a dead Covid cell be used here in Canada?

Russia has financial incentives for hospitals which prompt them to categorize deaths as covid related even if they are not.
I know this from family contacts. So we have the same BS as in the west.

I think there is no low-balling of cases and deaths in Russia. The number of cases is lower because the testing protocol is different.
As has been discussed by numerous sources, the testing is producing a lot of false positives. The other reason is that mRNA vaccines
compromise the immune system and contribute to more cases and more deaths (e.g. Singapore).

The latest surge of covid in Russia is likely associated with the vaccine and new strains. Selection pressure is put on the virus to mutate
the spike protein which renders the antibody memory induced by the vaccine useless. Then we have the new strains (e.g. delta) that are
more virulent.

Russia is also a juicy target for covid since a lot of people there have the metabolic syndrome.

The Ministry of Health named the number of Russians fully vaccinated against COVID-19

In Russia, 51 million people are vaccinated with at least one component of the coronavirus vaccine , of which 43 million citizens have completed the full course of vaccination. This was announced on Thursday, October 14, by the First Deputy Minister of Health of the Russian Federation Viktor Fisenko on the sidelines of the Eurasian Women's Forum.
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“Slightly more than 51 million people are vaccinated with the first component, about 43 million are vaccinated with two components,” Fisenko told Interfax .

Earlier that day, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov called the decision not to be vaccinated against coronavirus amid a pandemic irresponsible . Peskov noted that at the moment the medical infrastructure has been mobilized, there are also many infrastructure opportunities.

At the same time, the press secretary of the President of the Russian Federation explained that in the regions where the situation is approaching critical, other decisions are being made. He stressed that it is necessary to significantly intensify the work to explain the need for vaccination.

In Russia, over the past day, 31,299 new cases of coronavirus infection were detected . The largest number of new cases of COVID-19 were registered in Moscow (6712), St. Petersburg (2345) and the Moscow region (1911).

On October 13, the head of the Ministry of Health of the Russian Federation, Mikhail Murashko, said that the Russian health care system is under great strain due to the coronavirus. According to him, the burden can be reduced if the population is more actively vaccinated. He also said that more than 51 million people were vaccinated with the first component of the vaccine in Russia .

A large-scale vaccination has been taking place in Russia since January. Citizens are vaccinated free of charge and voluntarily. Five vaccines against coronavirus have been registered in the country: Sputnik V , which became the first vaccine against COVID-19 in the Russian Federation and the world, as well as Sputnik Light , EpiVacCorona , EpiVacCorona-N and KoviVak .

All relevant information on the situation with the coronavirus is available on the websites of stopcoronavirus.rf and access vsem.rf , as well as by the hashtag #WeVotte. Coronavirus hotline: 8 (800) 2000-112.

https://iz-ru.translate.goog/1235538/2021-10-14/v-minzdrave-nazvali-chislo-polnostiu-privitykh-ot-covid-19-rossiian

Russia is trying to tow a fine line between wanting to demand people get it vs giving them the choice.  People are hesitant when forced. We are seeing this in the west, and for good reason too.

But I would wager Russians are lucky to have better options than us where only option now is Pfizer.

If what KVS said is true, then there may be massive amount of over reporting for financial reasons.

Because India should have way more deaths than Russia, especially their crappy healthcare system.

@vann

Thanks again for the video link.   The woman knows what she is talking about.   We are being subjected to a massive war crime level medical experiment.

Japan already sent back 2 million Moderna doses because of metal particles in the vaccine vectors.   This is exactly what the Moderna patents
are describing.  It was not a production glitch, it was deliberate.

This video explains some of the "tin foil hat" "anti-vaxxer" discussion. The Pfizer and Moderna "vaccines" deliver semi-conducting nanotubes
("tentacles") and magnetized particles (clearly found by Japan and being ignored by all the other vassal states). This explains the need for
booster shots as such objects will be degraded and flushed from the system over time. In my view this is a part of tagging system designed
to track specific mRNA types in the "vaccines". The spike protein is a distraction. These "vaccines" are a massive genetic experiment and
in order to make use of this data there has to be a tracking system. It is easier to build the tag into the injection than follow the paperwork.
You are not going to be properly tracked by paperwork from a walk in clinic injection. The involvement of the JAIC really lets the cat out of the
bag that there is tagging and tracking.

I will repeat, there is no need for mRNA vaccines. The adenovirus and older style vaccines work perfectly fine. Yet in Canada, Singapore
and even the USA it is the mRNA products that are being pushed and coerced onto the public. This speaks to alternative motives.

kvs wrote:@vann

Thanks again for the video link.   The woman knows what she is talking about.   We are being subjected to a massive war crime level medical experiment.

Japan already sent back 2 million Moderna doses because of metal particles in the vaccine vectors.   This is exactly what the Moderna patents
are describing.  It was not a production glitch, it was deliberate.

This video explains some of the "tin foil hat" "anti-vaxxer" discussion.   The Pfizer and Moderna "vaccines" deliver semi-conducting nanotubes
("tentacles") and magnetized particles (clearly found by Japan and being ignored by all the other vassal states).   This explains the need for
booster shots as such objects will be degraded and flushed from the system over time.   In my view this is a part of tagging system designed
to track specific mRNA types in the "vaccines".   The spike protein is a distraction.   These "vaccines" are a massive genetic experiment and
in order to make use of this data there has to be a tracking system.   It is easier to build the tag into the injection than follow the paperwork.
You are not going to be properly tracked by paperwork from a walk in clinic injection.   The involvement of the JAIC really lets the cat out of the
bag that there is tagging and tracking.  

I will repeat, there is no need for mRNA vaccines.   The adenovirus and older style vaccines work perfectly fine.   Yet in Canada, Singapore
and even the USA it is the mRNA products that are being pushed and coerced onto the public.   This speaks to alternative motives.  

interesting indeed..

by the way , doesn't look like a well planned evil experiment , it looks total insanity ,what they trying to pull. Even evil needs to be smart , if wants to get away from their crimes .And this is not a case of those.instead looks like a really desperate move ,done by very sick ,mentally ill people. that lost their ability to think clearly , and believe , that by poisoning majority of their citizens , that they will have a chance to control the remaining survivors and will stay loyal to those bankers and super billionaires that poisoned their families.

The most immediate consequence ,short term , in a year or two ,of this depopulation agenda , in anglo nations ,is that betrayal of people that were part of the system. mass scale betrayals ,from politicians , police ,military and even intel agencies.. a true full scale civil war of hundred of millions of people that will surpass anything ever seen in history. so it will be ironic ,that The Anglo system ends collapsing from the inside ,if their own citizens will bring it down , without russia or china moving a finger. I really think , the future will be very dramatic , regardless of who wins and who lose ,with very life changing events are yet to come . it looks like the end of the world order as it is now, will happen in a very violent way and taken down by its own population. it will be impossible to get loyalty from military and police ,doctors and media after they all convinced , it was their own government ,who created the virus and the gmo hacks they promoted as solution that killed many in their families.

PapaDragon wrote:
Just checking back to deliver little update, infection and death rates in Russia are through the roof but this time finally virus started killing off unvaccinated retards in 20 years of age range which means that morons who didn't get the chance to procreate and spread their filthy DNA are being culled from the population

Took it's sweet time getting here but finally some progress, looks like this virus will finally start being useful

Same thing is happening in Serbia, now if only our idiot politicians would finally stop wasting money on keeping these unvaccinated degenerates on life support and start getting back to business as usual, we wasted way too much time and money on this circus

Amount money it takes to keep just one unvaccinated retard on ventilator is absolutely heartbreaking

It's the onset of winter in the Northern Hemisphere and people will get respiratory infections as per usual. The death rate might just be a tiny bit higher than usual but nothing close to real pandemic figures. The reason why it might be a tad higher than usual is because no matter what the actual cause of death (say car accident) - if your PCR test shows up positive you have died due to covid complications. Russia had the same problem last year with about a thousand deaths per day for a short period but I compared it with previous death rates and it was still on average. In fact during the Aids crisis many more Russians died than today. Ukraine and Romania also followings the same trend.

You should also take a look at what happened to the fully vaccinated in Israel a couple of weeks back. The vax is not what it was promised to be. You can not fight a virus with a vax - go look at the annual flu shots. The best they can do is to give a booster shot for those with serious health issues. Injecting this stuff into healthy people is criminal.

The west has become a totalitarian toilet.

Water cannons against peaceful protestors and real time video censorship.

Why do the regimes care so much about the unvaxxed? They are only an alleged threat to themselves.

1) Don't invoke the ICU BS. Nobody forces people to not become obese and develop metabolic syndrome and
load up the ICUs in their 60s. Most hospital costs are for metabolic syndrome.

2) The vaxxed are perfectly safe by alleged definition.

So what is the real motive behind all of this? Maybe has something to do with coercing people to be part of
the mass experiment with mRNA "vaccines".

Vann7 wrote:

kvs wrote:@vann

Thanks again for the video link.   The woman knows what she is talking about.   We are being subjected to a massive war crime level medical experiment.

Japan already sent back 2 million Moderna doses because of metal particles in the vaccine vectors.   This is exactly what the Moderna patents
are describing.  It was not a production glitch, it was deliberate.

This video explains some of the "tin foil hat" "anti-vaxxer" discussion.   The Pfizer and Moderna "vaccines" deliver semi-conducting nanotubes
("tentacles") and magnetized particles (clearly found by Japan and being ignored by all the other vassal states).   This explains the need for
booster shots as such objects will be degraded and flushed from the system over time.   In my view this is a part of tagging system designed
to track specific mRNA types in the "vaccines".   The spike protein is a distraction.   These "vaccines" are a massive genetic experiment and
in order to make use of this data there has to be a tracking system.   It is easier to build the tag into the injection than follow the paperwork.
You are not going to be properly tracked by paperwork from a walk in clinic injection.   The involvement of the JAIC really lets the cat out of the
bag that there is tagging and tracking.  

I will repeat, there is no need for mRNA vaccines.   The adenovirus and older style vaccines work perfectly fine.   Yet in Canada, Singapore
and even the USA it is the mRNA products that are being pushed and coerced onto the public.   This speaks to alternative motives.  

interesting indeed..

by the way , doesn't look like a well planned evil experiment , it looks total insanity ,what they trying to pull. Even evil needs to be smart , if wants to get away from their crimes .And this is not a case of those.instead looks like a really desperate move ,done by very sick ,mentally ill people. that lost their ability to think clearly , and  believe , that by poisoning majority of their citizens , that they will have a chance to control the remaining survivors and will stay loyal to those bankers and super billionaires that poisoned their families.

The most immediate consequence ,short term , in a year or two ,of this depopulation agenda , in anglo nations ,is that betrayal of people that were part  of the system. mass scale betrayals ,from politicians , police ,military and even intel agencies.. a true full scale civil war of hundred of millions of people that will surpass anything ever seen in history.  so it will be ironic ,that The Anglo system ends collapsing from the inside ,if their own citizens will bring it down , without russia or china moving a finger.  I really think , the future will be very dramatic , regardless of who wins and who lose ,with very life changing events are yet to come . it looks like the end of the world order as it is now, will happen in a very violent way and taken down by its own population. it will be impossible to get loyalty from military and police ,doctors and media after they all convinced , it was their own government ,who created the virus and the gmo hacks they promoted as solution that killed many in their families.

I think the depopulation is long term. The real value from this criminal experiment is to map out genetic function. The clowns thought that
if they mapped out the genome they would understand everything. Turns out the DNA is basically a set of constraints on a much larger chemical
dynamical system. So now they are trying to map out the epi-genetic and broader functionality of cellular machinery. Using GMO tools like
mRNA is an ideal way to do this. But they need a large amount of test subjects to engage in this "parameter space" search.

The video you linked describes how the carbon nanotubes can be grown at the microscale after injection of the "machinery". These carbon
nanotubes form a type of bar code. They need to be grown to make external reading of this code easier. So the story with these "vaccines"
is not just the nanoparticle vectors but other objects injected into the test subjects from the same "vaccine" vial.

Check this new video.. it will change forever @kvs your perception of the catholic church.
i admit , i was partially wrong in trusting in the pope.. he have shown his true face , by supporting this vaccines and turning their back on people. But there are many opposition inside the vatican. the corruption is at the very top , but there are other high ranking priest , openly giving interviews to condemn this mRNA vaccines and condemn the pope support for depopulation experiment....

this is an archbishop ,this is a high ranking catholic priest.. who is not hiding anything and telling the truth , of what's going on the world.

Archbishop Viagano quote:
Now it is clear to me ,that we are facing a siege on both the social and the religious front .
The so called emergency pandemic ,have been utilized as a false pretext ,to impose the vaccination and the Green pass in many nation in the world , in a simultaneus and coordinated way . At the same time in the other front ,not only the ecclesiastical authorities do not condemn in the least ,the abuse of power , by those who govern public affairs ,but they support them in this wicked plan ,and go so far ,as to condemn those who do not accept being subjected to inoculation , with an experimental gene serum, with unknown side effects. That do not impart any immunity of the virus ... we are at undeclared war...

other things he talk..

-alliance between deep state and deep church.
- the great reset .
-the obvious negative intentions of this gmo experimentation on population ,even when is causing damages on those that received it ,and with no scientific data to proof it works at all.
-This is a criminal complicity ,is there for all to see.
- he mentions by their name , and were they located ,those archbishops who are complicit in this mass depopulation crimes.
-plans of replacement of the catholic church for masonic institution universal religion.
-rockefellers foundation scenarios predicted pandemic.

https://beforeitsnews.com/agenda-21/2021/10/archbishop-vigano-the-vaccine-victims-are-sacrificed-at-the-altar-of-moloch-we-are-in-a-war-of-good-vs-evil-the-deep-state-and-deep-church-conspire-against-humanity-3315.html

Vann7 you should not dig too deep in that area - the stench will overwhelm you!

Mir wrote:Vann7 you should not dig too deep in that area - the stench will overwhelm you!

is what i was saying.. in the christian thread .
That most of the world have been educated to be zombies ,robots ,that follow and obey all the institutions that rules above them ,whether is major politics institutions , religious institutions ,health institutions , major media institutions , major human rights organizations , united nations , world health organizations , and any other major institution , have been infiltrated by all this corrupt billionaires that finance with their big pockets the anglo system and all those other nations and organizations connected with them.

Is a pyramid of subordination , that those are the top ,can tell everyone below them ,what to do ,how to think ,in every thing and everyone under them follows blindly ,what their authorities and leadership tells them, without verifying if their information is correct or not..

most doctors follows this genocide , because they can't process the idea , that their governments ,and the federal health agencies will conspire to kill them with a vaccine.. so is not different with catholic church.. most priest are ignorants and could never imagine their top leaders will be conspiring to kill them. most of the support that this experiment receive , including scientist ,religious leaders and health proffessionals is based on pure ignorance , that is blind trust in them.

i personally  people  that works in pharma industry ,that could never imagine or even believe any suggestion of the slightest , about corruption of the FDA or pharma industry. is impossible for them ,to believe such evil is possible. .and this is the problem.. most people have been trained from childhood to trust blindly in their doctors and scientific and religious institutions ,to guide them.
and very few people can process the idea of a major plan to depopulate the world.. by the anglo west. "conspiracies theories" they will say.  but the more doctors speak the truth , of the fraud of this pfizer and moderna and other western vaccines. and the danger in them.. the more people will resist.
and rebel against this crime.  

so is a re-education of society , to become independent thinkers always ,at all times , no matter who claims what. To trust no one , only facts that they can confirm and verify . Most people have basic morals and ethics , have common sense ,and will identify clearly the truth when they see it , when is tested next to a big lie.

So the revolution will happen, and this is what is also worrying , because there will be many millions of civil rebellion against this vaccines experiments.. when they discover is killing their families. so i think major powers in the west are planning a major electricity blackout world wide in the anglo system, with major food crisis , that will be staged by them , in order to significantly reduce the movement of people , to overthrow their governments ,when they discover the fraud of this pandemic , for not being a natural event , but a man made planned one to get everyone hacked their health with their vaccines.

There are those ,that are fully aware of this depopulation genocide going on , that are not ignorant ,but evil instead.. but those are a small minority . Part of the super rich elites , that will directly benefit from this slavery of humanity .The fact that this archbishop is not censored by the church to talk , is not arrested by the vatican is a major light of hope ,  that possibly the vatican ,like the pope, was simply duped into this pandemic fraud . they are not very smart people in the end , most of them are disconnected from the world they live , and live in their  comfortable churches forever .

Which ever things happens , who ever wins , either the anglo system globalist or russia and china , i have no doubts , the world order will be completely changed. and most world population will be very very angry ,when they discover ,what we now know , of this killer vaccines being pushed in all population world wide. So there will be no major government standing left , in the west ,that pushed this mRNA experiments on population , and made it mandatory on them.  There will be many many politicians ,religious authorities ,doctors who knew what they were doing , facing nuremberg like trials.  because i don't see how people like bill gates , soros and rockefellers will survive the civil unrest ,they will face. demanding their jail. a major cleanup of masonic -illuminaty criminals will happen. and with help of military and police.. there good people in this world far outweight the criminals ones. And also it will be impossible for the anglo system to survive the civil unrest ,if russia and china ,give them a medicine on their own , and decide to helps in the organize and transportation and funding of  the population against those that forced them to take this experimental killer hacks.  all things said.. i'm very optimistic , the criminals behind this depopulation agenda and the governments that supported this will not prevail. and will miserably fail.. you will see.

 The west failed with their arab spring ,that was a much smaller operation , the take over of the entire muslim world under their rule , the anglo west failed to overthrow syria with terrorist they backed , they failed in ukraine to break Russia ,they failed to break china with the sanctions and the virus ,they unleashed there , and they will again fail to take over the entire word too , as every other failures they had . The only thing the organizers of this war on the world will achieve is their own destruction ,there will be no place to go to escape , after the collapse of the anglo-british system , nations not cooperating with this crime , like Russia and china will restore order . .
And hopefully without too many casualties on population .

What you see right there in that quote of garryb , that admits the big pharma is the most corrupt scpecies ... yet he have no problems of taking the corrupt people vaccines. does that makes any sense at all ?

Most criminals go unpunished... especially in positions of power like government or big companies.

Are you going to refuse to eat or drink or own anything... most people have done things that would be considered criminal so how can you possibly not cancel everything they have done or said.

Michael Jackson may have been inappropriate with children... I doubt we will ever know the real truth... does that mean all his songs should be burned and destroyed?

Matt Damon said there is a difference between a pat on the ass and rape... should he be arrested and charged?

The irony is that women want to be treated as equals but pat them on the ass and they explode... pat a guy on the ass and they might think you are weird.... look at what soccer players when they score.

You can give up all medical science and medicine... because it comes from a corrupt source, but their corruption is all about eliminating competition and making even more money... killing people who use their products is the opposite of what they want... not because they care, but because they care about money.

Is there is anyone in this forum ,that will do business , for example deposit all their life money savings in a highly corrupt bank , that you investage and discover have many scandals of stealing money from its clients ?

Is there any bank anywhere that is not corrupt?

Then if no one will invest their hard earned money in a very corrupt institution , then why it have to be different with vaccines? confused Isn't your health and family health more important than money ?

That does not make sense. Your child has cancer and the only drug known to be effective at dealing with that type of cancer is made by Pfizer.

Sad that you give up on your child like that, but what can you do...

Obvious questions ,with obvious answers.. nobody will trust in corrupt people or companies ,anything of value for them.. as their money and health is.

You don't have to trust the corrupt people or companies. Dont get vaccinated. Quit your job and live in a cave. Give up money because banks are hornets nests for corrupt evil people. Without food and medicine you probably wont live for very long but the payoff is that you then get to escape this terrible corrupt place.

So if Garryb admits himself,that western pharma industry are very corrupt.. the he is totally detached from reality , to continue supporting them. " to save your life" as he claim.. from a virus they themselves created ,because very corrupt people ,are evil.. and nobody will bet their family lives on very corrupt west.

Ahhh, they created it themselves did they....

So which one did it.... it should be obvious because if you are creating a deadly virus you would get the cure and vaccine ready before you release it... so who came up with the cure first?

But then perhaps it was a western company that is trying to frame Russia again... they probably decided to delay releasing their vaccines so they could claim the Russian vaccine was rushed and should not be used because then you would be making yourself a guinea pig for science... hahaha...

Do you have any actual evidence or did the voices in your head tell you this?

i bet no one will do that .. anyone with the most basic form of logic and common sense ,will not trust their hard earned money , to the most corrupt bank in your city.

What interest rates do they offer?

The amusing thing is that if you need a lawyer.. it does not pay to hire the good Christian who cares about right and wrong because you just want to get off the charge... at the end of the day a corrupt but not incompetent Lawyer is the way to go.

But here you see GArryb , by his own words.. admission that western pharma industry is corrupt ,

Damn... how did you learn that big secret... no one is supposed to know...

2) yet no worries.. they will not cheat on you with their vaccines

Cheat you? How the **** can they "cheat" you?

What does that even mean?

But why would the west want to poison people right ?
-to reduce their population , those that they don't like , for staying forever in power.. that's why

Money is power and they earn money from selling vaccines and drugs... killing people.... especially killing more people than the virus kills would be a terrible business model.

Besides... if they were creating a method of killing people they would go after healthy young people, because they don't tend to buy many medicines or treatments... killing off the old and infirm is wiping out their core customer base.

Plus if they wanted to wipe out a portion of the human population you would think they would start with people in foreign countries... especially those that migrate to their countries and cause problems.

It would be easy to eliminate large numbers of people in third world countries... just put something in the water that makes them all infertile... once people in other countries are wiped out you could start exporting your poor people there so they are not in your way any more and you don't have to see them.

money they don't need.. they can print money..

The US government can... big Pharma cannot.

rockefellers ,soros ,bill gates.. this clowns ,that literary are owners of anglo western pharma industry , they don't need money. They can buy anything they want.

Need has nothing to do with it... it does not matter how much they have they want more...

So pathetic is Garryb position now ,that he needs to discredit Russian chief scientist behind sputnik v , Alexander Gintsburg too , behind russian vaccines ,that have openly said ,the mRNA shots kills many people.

So a scientist from one big pharma company says the technology another big pharma company is using is not safe... Hmmm... I am shocked and surprised...

The head of IBM business machines once said (in the very early days of computers) that the world wide demand for computers will be 7 or 8, and they will be for countries to run census programmes on to count their populations...

The only reliable way to see what happens in the future is to experience it.

Didn't the Europeans also shit kick Astra Zenica because Astra Zenica is a British based big Pharma company?

I am sure someone at Pfizer is happy to step up and say the Russian vaccines were created far too quickly for them to be safe and effective...

It is the reason the Russians have a large arms export company so individual Russian companies don't sabotage each other trying to get international contract sales...

Just checking back to deliver little update, infection and death rates in Russia are through the roof but this time finally virus started killing off unvaccinated retards in 20 years of age range which means that morons who didn't get the chance to procreate and spread their filthy DNA are being culled from the population

Cold and hard but it is natural selection and why we are here and in charge instead of dolphins or ants.

First few times through it was not familiar with humans so it killed the old and weak and already very sick, but as the virus continues to evolve it will become better able to effect all humans... some strains will be mild and some will be lethal.

If you don't want to get vaccinated then your best bet is to find someone with a very mild strain of covid in their system and see if you can catch that from them to increase your chances of not dying.

Serbian guy , no idea why ,but whenever you comment on anything ,remember me ,a low IQ person, with the behavior of a kid. something like this ... Go back to your disney cartoons and leave discussions for adults.

Personal insults?

He is reporting that being unvaccinated is not helping and that death rates are very high even now all this time after the initial outbreak... getting vaccinated wont protect you 100% from the virus but for now it is the only thing you can do to increase your chances and the chances of those around you.

Everyone who has Covid that dies is instantly Covid related death. Hence why the numbers at least in Russia is suspect. Did they die of Covid? Did they die of something else but because they tested positive for Covid, it was Covid that killed em?

Are you asking, or making a claim?

Go through the list and see how UK has low deaths but high rate of infections. Or how turkey has extreme low deaths.

But if it is a hoax then how can that be possible... if you have a high rate of infections then a lot of people have it and more are getting it all the time... by your logic once everyone has had it at least once then the only possible cause of death will be Covid because they all have it... so how can they have low deaths if that is the case?

Also... just a bit of a guess... different populations in different countries are likely suffering from different strains of the virus which might lead to different results.

Those who gained natural immunity by having Covid in first place are apparently 10x more immune now to other variants. So if that's the case, why not allow the vaccines with a dead Covid cell be used here in Canada?

For a very long period of time people have been infecting themselves with very mild forms of disease to get immunity from harsher forms of that disease... these days we call that a vaccine.

The latest surge of covid in Russia is likely associated with the vaccine and new strains.

Funny, because the solution is the vaccine... but so many don't trust the solution they get to live or die with the effects of the virus.

I will repeat, there is no need for mRNA vaccines. The adenovirus and older style vaccines work perfectly fine. Yet in Canada, Singapore
and even the USA it is the mRNA products that are being pushed and coerced onto the public. This speaks to alternative motives.

That is pretty normal though isn't it? We were fine for hundreds of thousands of years with two genders... petrol and diesel powered vehicles are efficient but are being replaced whether you like it or not... and without funding battery reprocessing plants that is going to create a problem down the road too but who is looking ahead?