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    Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 #4

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    Post  Mir Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:34 pm

    https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/omicron-five-times-more-likely-reinfect-than-delta-study-says-2021-12-17/

    Omicron more likely to reinfect than Delta, no milder -study

    Fear porn.

    As the leading "exporter" of the Omicron variant I can tell you that according to official statements over here the infection rate is higher than the Delta variant but hospitalization is significantly less. Symptoms are much milder as well.

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    Post  Mir Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:45 pm

    I just injured myself when I fell off my chair! Shocked

    Finally someone in our government has seen the light!

    Covid-19: Stop tracing and quarantining of contacts, says Ministerial Advisory Committee

    MAC says the tracing and quarantining of contacts of Covid-19 cases is no longer necessary.
    In a memo to Health Minister Joe Phaahla, it said the proportion of people with immunity to Covid-19 had risen substantially.
    It added that quarantining of contacts was no longer viable in the current social and economic climate.

    The Ministerial Advisory Committee (MAC) on Covid-19 has written to Health Minister Joe Phaahla, recommending that the quarantining of contacts be stopped as it is no longer viable in the current social and economic climate.

    Furthermore, the committee said contact tracing was no longer necessary and should also be halted with immediate effect.

    The MAC is co-chaired by Professors Koleka Mlisana and Marian Jacobs.

    In a memo to Phaahla on Thursday examining contact tracing and quarantining, the committee said several changes to the Covid-19 situation had occurred since 2020, necessitating the re-evaluation of the management of the disease.

    More people had developed an immunity to Covid-19, MAC said.

    It said:
    The proportion of people with immunity to Covid-19 (from infection and/or vaccination) has risen substantially, exceeding 60-80% in several serosurveys [measuring of antibody levels against infectious diseases].
    [South Africa has one of the lowest fully vaccinated rates of around 25%]

    "We have learned more about the manner in which Covid-19 is spread, and also now have to contend with variants of concern whose epidemiology differs from that of the ancestral strains of SARS-CoV-2.

    It stands to reason that if the vast majority of cases are not diagnosed, then the vast majority of case contacts are also not diagnosed. This means that quarantining and contact tracing are of negligible public health benefit in the South African setting.

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    Post  George1 Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:14 pm

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    Post  kvs Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:40 pm

    Mir wrote:
    https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/omicron-five-times-more-likely-reinfect-than-delta-study-says-2021-12-17/

    Omicron more likely to reinfect than Delta, no milder -study

    Fear porn.

    As the leading "exporter" of the Omicron variant I can tell you that according to official statements over here the infection rate is higher than the Delta variant but hospitalization is significantly less. Symptoms are much milder as well.

    None of the NATzO fake stream news outlets (Reuters, AFP, AP, etc.) are credible.   They spew hate propaganda serving NATzO agendas on every
    single world issue.   Consider their reporting on the 2008 invasion of South Ossetia by Suckshitvilli.   They made it sound that South Ossetian
    civilians were the aggressors and that 2,000 of them being slaughtered by Gruzian regime forces at early hours after midnight while they slept
    never happened.   Now I am supposed to believe their shitty fearmongering even though the death rate in South Africa proves that Omicron is
    mild.   That it is more infectious is a good thing since it gives people natural immunity and ultimately deprives Pfizer et al. of filthy lucre.

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    Post  Mir Mon Dec 20, 2021 8:41 am

    George1 wrote: pirat ]

    Weaponizing Omicron (Covidcon).
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    Post  higurashihougi Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:34 pm

    https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/media-resources/science-in-5/episode-63---omicron-variant

    We do have initial reports that suggest that Omicron is less severe compared to Delta. However, if again, if we have more cases, more cases mean more hospitalizations, and if a health care system is overburdened, people will die because they won't get the appropriate care that they need. So, it's early to tell whether or not Omicron is more or less severe, but we do have some initial reports that it is less severe. Now, don't be fooled. Even if we have a virus that causes less severe disease, this virus can affect vulnerable populations. And we know people with underlying conditions, people of advanced age, if they are infected with any variant of SARS-CoV-2, including Omicron, they are at an increased risk of developing severe disease. So, it is really critical that even if we do see more mild disease, we still do everything that we can to reduce transmission in all populations, people who are vaccinated, as well as people who are not vaccinated.

    So, it is really critical that even if we do see more mild disease, we still do everything that we can to reduce transmission in all populations, people who are vaccinated, as well as people who are not vaccinated.

    However, if again, if we have more cases, more cases mean more hospitalizations, and if a health care system is overburdened, people will die because they won't get the appropriate care that they need. Even if we have a virus that causes less severe disease, this virus can affect vulnerable populations.

    However, if again, if we have more cases, more cases mean more hospitalizations, and if a health care system is overburdened, people will die because they won't get the appropriate care that they need. Even if we have a virus that causes less severe disease, this virus can affect vulnerable populations.

    However, if again, if we have more cases, more cases mean more hospitalizations, and if a health care system is overburdened, people will die because they won't get the appropriate care that they need. Even if we have a virus that causes less severe disease, this virus can affect vulnerable populations.
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    Post  Firebird Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:35 pm

    I'm amazed that the "Covid Establishment" have managed to perpetuate such a big lie for so long.
    I'll leave those who can't see it to their own devices.
    (Fenton,Montagnier, Malone, Yeadon explain the truth, but by now you probably don't want to see the truth(.

    Yes there were/are "viruses".
    But no, mRNA vaxxes causes more harm than good. It shows the entire fraud is a giant experiment - as you would expect from Milken (who never gets mentioned), Gates, Fauci, Schwab and co.

    What I find really disturbing is that the axis of Corona-Evil seems to have support in some places in Russia too.

    I hope Putin takes an active step in defending those not under the tyranny of Neoliberal Globalist extremism.

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    Post  Mir Mon Dec 20, 2021 5:01 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/media-resources/science-in-5/episode-63---omicron-variant

    Now now Higurashihougi no need to get hysterical! Laughing What a Face

    Take a deep breath and read my post below that appeared in our MSM today - yet another first!
    It seems things are falling apart for the con men if articles like this appear in MSM.
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    Post  kvs Mon Dec 20, 2021 5:07 pm

    The WHO is not a credible source. They have still not "approved" the Sputnik V vaccine. Anyone who thinks this is
    a factual stance by an "impartial organization" is delusional.

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    Post  Mir Mon Dec 20, 2021 5:10 pm

    An extract>>

    https://www.news24.com/news24/columnists/guestcolumn/opinion-shenilla-mohamed-mark-dummett-new-covid-variants-owe-existence-partly-to-big-pharma-20211211

    OPINION | Shenilla Mohamed, Mark Dummett: New Covid variants owe existence partly to big Pharma

    As Amnesty International, we do not support blanket mandatory vaccine policies and believe that in line with WHO recommendations, governments should focus on voluntary uptake and that public awareness campaigns must be at the forefront of these efforts.

    But the news of the emergence of a new variant was good for some. It resulted in a bonanza for western vaccine manufacturers, as it seemed to confirm that they will be providing booster jabs for years to come to combat future variants.

    Moderna's share price soared by 34 percent in just five days. Its CEO, Stéphane Bancel, was quick to benefit, selling 10,000 shares on 26 November, making him a windfall of $3.19 million. Over this period, Mr Bancel's overall shareholding in the company jumped in value by more than eight hundred million dollars, the campaigning group Global Justice Now reported.

    Moderna's main rivals fared similarly. US pharma giant Pfizer's share price rose by 7.4 percent and its German partner, BioNTech, which originally developed its vaccine, saw an increase of 18.9 percent between 24 November and 29 November.

    Rising share prices

    These rising share prices reflected the fact that since the start of the pandemic the three companies have chased profits, prioritising sales to higher income countries.

    Pfizer has claimed that its "vaccine would be available to every patient, country and community that seeks access." But this rhetoric has not been matched by actions. It continues to make misleading statements and reserve the bulk of its vaccines for wealthier countries, is still refusing to participate in technology sharing initiatives, such as the South African-based WHO mRNA technology hub, and has lobbied vigorously against efforts to lift intellectual property restrictions which would allow other manufacturers to ramp up production.

    As a result, Pfizer has forecast that its vaccine sales will hit $36bn this year, making it the single best-selling pharmaceutical of 2021, according to the Financial Times.

    Moderna's vaccine was only made possible with the help of US government scientists and a massive input of financial aid. Yet, even more than Pfizer, it has overwhelmingly distributed its vaccines to upper and upper-middle income countries. Moderna has forecast sales of its vaccines of up to $18 billion for 2021. It did not have to be this way. There was nothing inevitable about this. Both Pfizer and Moderna made clear business decisions.

    By contrast, the Anglo-Swedish company AstraZeneca has pursued a not-for-profit approach for its sales of the Oxford University-developed vaccine and pushed to distribute doses more fairly around the globe.

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    Post  kvs Mon Dec 20, 2021 5:14 pm

    Pfizer is clearly not acting alone.   Its product is being forced by those "wealthy country" regimes.   I would say that
    the developing world should thank its lucky stars that it is not being ass-raped with this toxic concoction.   Let the
    precious developed world reap what it has sown.

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    Post  Mir Mon Dec 20, 2021 7:01 pm

    Great video - and what a great Tweet this is - just classic! Laughing

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    Higurashihougi see if you can make it to the end of this video without falling into a Omicron coma! Laughing

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    Post  higurashihougi Mon Dec 20, 2021 7:36 pm

    I am very demanding about Covid control, but that does not mean I am a fanboi of Pfizer, neither that means I am not aware that Big Corporations are making money over the pain and illnesses of humanity.

    The problem is the Big Corporations then the solution is words and actions against them, but that does not mean rejecting the notion of Covid control at a whole.

    The Western regimes never carry out serious Covid control from the beginning and what they are doing currently are half-assed methods which push all the burden to the common people. Meanwhile the ones who do proper methods of Covid prevention: China, Cuba, Venezuela, they are the very anti-thesis of the Western regimes.

    Encouraging vaccination does not mean supporting Western Big Corps, either. What about encouraging the vaccination of Soberana, Abdala, Sputnik, or Sinopharm ?

    And from my point of view WHO is very credible when they say if the pandemic outbreak is unchecked, a surge of deaths is inevitable as an overloaded medical system will be unable to take care of all the severe cases.
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    Post  kvs Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:34 pm



    No approved vax, no food.

    No microchip, no food or concentration camp.

    This is where it is going. If you think not, then your have inadequate awareness or other deficiencies.
    The west is showing its true colours.

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    Post  GarryB Tue Dec 21, 2021 4:47 am

    Forget worrying about big pharma or western governments being the threat... that article said it all... without saying anything...

    OPINION | Shenilla Mohamed, Mark Dummett: New Covid variants owe existence partly to big Pharma

    As Amnesty International, we do not support blanket mandatory vaccine policies and believe that in line with WHO recommendations, governments should focus on voluntary uptake and that public awareness campaigns must be at the forefront of these efforts.

    But the news of the emergence of a new variant was good for some. It resulted in a bonanza for western vaccine manufacturers, as it seemed to confirm that they will be providing booster jabs for years to come to combat future variants.

    First of all .... OPINION... glad that is in all caps...

    The title accuses big pharma for the new covid variants...
    But it backs that up by saying that big pharma benefits from the new variants... not that they had a part in creating them as implied.

    What FUCKING MORONS... that is like saying Farmers cause rain because they benefit when rain falls to the ground and waters their crops or helps the grass grow to feed their stock.

    Farmers don't make it rain you morons.

    I am very demanding about Covid control, but that does not mean I am a fanboi of Pfizer, neither that means I am not aware that Big Corporations are making money over the pain and illnesses of humanity.

    Your position makes sense, you understand that rain happens and while Pfizer are a bunch of ruthless heartless censored who put profit above human life, they are still providing a solution, unlike out anti vaxxer friends here who seem to think natural immunity is the secret... but then if natural immunity was the secret there would be no problem in the first place.
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    Post  GarryB Tue Dec 21, 2021 4:51 am

    No approved vax, no food.

    No microchip, no food or concentration camp.

    What are you talking about?

    No government controls food, and no government can afford to house the poor or the elderly.... how could they afford to house the insane?

    They used to to that but now they let them out into the community... to save money.

    Pretty soon cell phones will be clear plastic things you wrap around your wrist... how long before they get embedded in your hand or wrist so you can't lose them?

    BTW before microchips it was you are going to become a number, with it tatooed on your forehead or some shit.
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    Post  Mir Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:49 am

    kvs wrote:

    No approved vax, no food.

    No microchip, no food or concentration camp.

    This is where it is going.   If you think not, then your have inadequate awareness or other deficiencies.
    The west is showing its true colours.  

    Carbon taxes is just another step in this direction. You may find yourself stranded or unable to go shopping today because you have already exceeded your carbon quota for the month - sorry! dunno

    Double whammy when your booster shot has just expired! affraid

    Thank god you can still watch TV - but only the free state owned channels pwnd

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    Post  Mir Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:28 am

    First of all .... OPINION... glad that is in all caps...

    That is why its in there so that even MORONS can understand it's an OPINION...

    Here is a little head bender for FUCKING MORONS  >>

    According to CDC data in March 2020 one had a 1% chance of not surviving the virus.
    According to CDC data in December 2021 one has a 1% chance of not surviving the virus.
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    Post  GarryB Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:30 am

    Except statistics are statistics...

    If the virus kills you then the chance of it killing you is 100%, and if it does not then its chance of killing you is 0%.

    1% of 9 billion is an enormous number of people to sacrifice...
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    Post  kvs Wed Dec 22, 2021 6:36 am



    The clown outfit called the WHO does not even recognize the need for needle aspiration during vaccine injection.
    The manufacturers of the vaccines (Pfizer, etc.) require the vaccine to not be injected into the vascular system.

    Why should anyone submit themselves to such grossly incompetent dose injection?

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    Post  Mir Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:26 am

    GarryB wrote:Except statistics are statistics...

    If the virus kills you then the chance of it killing you is 100%, and if it does not then its chance of killing you is 0%.

    1% of 9 billion is an enormous number of people to sacrifice...

    Your calculation is very warped but I'll humour you anyway, but the actual point is that like polio and small pocks, covid should have been zeroed by now if these jabs were actually true vaccines. Well at least that's what you would expect in countries where between 70-90% of the population has been fully vaxxed. Yet we see a spike in a "new variant" that has been spread throughout the world by "fully vaccinated" travelers. Amazingly in Africa with the lowest vaccination rate in the world, people are still alive and kicking and seemingly not really effected by the virus anymore.

    First of all there are around 7.9+ billion people on this planet atm and not 9 billion.
    I've taken 2018 as a good pandemic free year. 57.6 million people died that year which is around 0.75% of the total 2018 population.
    Today we have around 5.5 million people that died from the virus over a period of almost 2 years.
    If you divide that in 2 and add a few extra you'll get around 3 million deaths in a year,  being very generous.
    Also keep in mind that in the first year nobody (or very few) was vaccinated.
    3 million "covid deaths" a year is around 0.03% of the total population - a very far cry from the 1% from your own very warped CNN-like calculation where you claim that the virus will kill off 1% of the population! Laughing

    In 20 years time the virus will kill off 0.6% of today's population but the bad news is that this year we've had nearly 137 million births already!
    From my perspective the virus is not going to make much of a dent, but all those jabs and endless booster shots may just do the trick?  dunno
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    Post  Mir Wed Dec 22, 2021 2:07 pm

    And I thought this sort of thing only happens in South Africa dunno

    https://www.rt.com/usa/543941-covid-fraud-secret-service/

    Shocking scale of Covid relief fraud revealed

    Nearly $100 billion in Covid-19 relief payments has been stolen by criminals since the beginning of the pandemic, according to the Secret Service, which has launched a campaign to recover the money.

    Almost $100 billion of the $3.5 trillion given out by the US government in programs such as the Paycheck Protection Program and the Economic Injury Disaster Loan program has been fraudulently taken, with just over $2.3 billion recovered so far.

    The Secret Service – which has more than 900 active investigations into the stolen funds – appointed Special Agent Roy Dotson as its National Pandemic Fraud Recovery Coordinator on Tuesday and the US government is now working with private companies, including PayPal, to recover the money.

    Dotson told CNBC that it was “shameful to think that individuals would take advantage of these programs” and “target them for their own personal advantage.”
    Man spent millions in Covid relief payments on luxury cars & private jets READ MORE: Man spent millions in Covid relief payments on luxury cars & private jets

    “I have been in law enforcement for over 29 years and worked some complex fraud investigations for 20+ years and I’ve never seen something at this scale,” Dotson insisted, noting that the loss is so high “because the pot was so big.”

    “There’s no doubt that the programs were easily accessible online. And so, with that, comes the opportunity for bad actors to get into that mix,” he explained.

    The bad actors allegedly include organized-crime groups, but also individuals who saw the relief programs as a get-rich-quick scheme.

    One Texas man was arrested last week after he scammed the government out of $3.3 million in relief payments, which he spent on real estate, luxury vehicles, and private jets.

    Another Texas man was sentenced to over nine years in prison in November for spending more than $1.6 million in relief payments on a life of luxury, including a $14,000 Rolex watch, a Lamborghini, and strippers.

    I am pretty sure this is just the tip of the iceberg.

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    Post  higurashihougi Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:08 pm

    Mir wrote:In 20 years time the virus will kill off 0.6% of today's population but the bad news is that this year we've had nearly 137 million births already!
    From my perspective the virus is not going to make much of a dent, but all those jabs and endless booster shots may just do the trick?  dunno
    If you let the virus spread uncontrollably and, as a result, the positive cases get a dramatic increase, then the death rate will definitely not the same as the one you claim.

    The death rate in an overloaded medical system which is unable to take care of severe patients is definitely different from the rate in a normal system, when the situation is still under control.

    Human survives the diseases and disasters better than animal not because they have superior natural immunity or physical traits. But because they know that diseases and disasters are bad and must be avoided, and they mobilize their social and economical forces to prevent it and to cure it if things happen.

    The success of a human is determined by his social status, social relationship, and socio-economical situation of the era he is living in, not determined by his genes or innate traits.

    There are countless examples show that the least expensive and most effective way to treat a disease is to prevent it from happening from the beginning.

    And last but not least, the Western Big Corps are sh*t does not mean the whole notion of pandemic control is wrong.

    The wrong thing is that the socio-economical resources is being mobilized for the profit of the Big Corps, not for the common interest of the working people, including the interest of being healthy, being protected from the diseases and illnesses, and being able to economically survive during the pandemic.

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