Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 #5

but Garryb.. aka.. the super pathetic liar , have been feeding us with bullshit information how this western mrna vaccines are soooo safe , that if we don't vaccinate and later die , it willl be our fault. Laughing

But not worries , there will be more vaccines and Garryb public relations /damage control department of anglo western vaccines ,will be ready to come in their defense of western pharm again for another 3 years ? Suspect

For nothing it have been said, lies have very short legs.. and garryb's propaganda have its own expiration date. that no longer works and not many in the forum , he can now deceive.
Why would anyone defend criminal vaccines , even after so much evidence , that not only don't work ,but that are poison , is for anyone imagination top guess. for me is enough that time proven me
100% correct.

Didn't see this post before Vann, I warned you last time I banned you not to push this so your two week ban from the Ukraine war thread is being upgraded to become a permanent ban.

Congrats.

Millions of people are indeed morons. What do they think a vax does? How did humans manage to
survive and evolve for millions of years without Pfizer and Moderna?

There are more people alive now than have been alive before... in many pandemics humans didn't survive and were killed in their tens millions way back when tens of millions was a significant portion of the worlds population.

Viruses never have a 100% lethality rate or they will naturally die out themselves... there is no reason to believe the Roman empire died out because they had bio weapons labs in countries around the world but it might be how the US empire dies out... who will they take with them is a question...

The reasons for vaccinations are sound... most new viruses kill by reproducing in the new host at a rapid rate while the new hosts body tries to work out what it is and how to deal with it. In most cases it is new to the system and will overwhelm the defences and either kill the host or make them sick before the hosts self defence system can work out how to deal with the new threat and fight it off.

A vaccination is simply giving the body a sample of the new virus that it can learn how to deal with in a situation where the virus cannot reproduce and overwhelm the bodies defence systems. Once the body has learned how to deal with that sample of the new virus it is better able to detect and deal with the real thing if it becomes infected so the body can start destroying the virus straight away before it can reproduce to volumes in the system that it can't deal with any more.

This split between the west and the rest of the world is good because I suspect one of the priorities for China and Russia and India will be to establish and get into production their own medicines and vaccines designed to cure rather than just treat problems... not as profitable, but morally much better for society having a healthier population rather than weakling drones funding drug companies and not being able to fully function as productive citizens.

GarryB wrote:A vaccination is simply giving the body a sample of the new virus that it can learn how to deal with in a situation where the virus cannot reproduce and overwhelm the bodies defence systems. Once the body has learned how to deal with that sample of the new virus it is better able to detect and deal with the real thing if it becomes infected so the body can start destroying the virus straight away before it can reproduce to volumes in the system that it can't deal with any more.

That is all fine and dandy, but when you deal with a more-than-llikely bioweapon where the immunizing principle doubles as a potent toxin with multiple long term / fatal effects on the body, maybe force feeding that to people is not only unwise but the facto a crime against human life on a global scale. The malevolence behind this ploy is off the scale and will be studied for centuries as the lowest moment in our civilization. Well, unless they manage to go even lower, which they indeed are trying...

There is no evidence that the bio weapons labs had anything to do with creating the vaccine... they clearly created the virus, but also were not intending to release it without a vaccine already developed and in production for the leadership of western countries.

The fact that these enormous numbers of bio weapons labs (over 70 in the Ukraine alone and plenty more in other countries around the world) were helpless in helping create vaccines to fight this virus shows they are committed to making weapons first and then developing solutions to them later or not at all.

Regarding the big western pharma companies I would speculate incompetence and greed rather than malevolence and a calculated attempt to reduce the population of the world... their first trials might have had catastrophic results but one would hope they learned from the results to modify their vaccines to be less dangerous to the paying customers.

If those first trial figures panned out and 1,500 people died out of 46K people injected from the vaccine then the 3 million plus NZers vaccinated twice and boosted twice you would be seeing .... (3 million divided by 45K equals about 66, so 1,500 times 66... times four injections would be 400K dead kiwis just from the vaccine.

The fact that that number are not dead suggest they changed the mixture or their test subjects were already very sick.

Which is not to say this should be hidden... it should be openly discussed... but with real facts and not emotions... sadly these companies only have themselves to blame with their secrecy clauses to hide the truth... they create conspiracy theories for themselves, which suggests they are embarrassed by the truth so much that even conspiracies look better.

I guess appearing an evil part of the deep state is better than the incompetent greedy bastards that they are.

GarryB wrote:There is no evidence that the bio weapons labs had anything to do with creating the vaccine... they clearly created the virus, but also were not intending to release it without a vaccine already developed and in production for the leadership of western countries.

The fact that these enormous numbers of bio weapons labs (over 70 in the Ukraine alone and plenty more in other countries around the world) were helpless in helping create vaccines to fight this virus shows they are committed to making weapons first and then developing solutions to them later or not at all.

Regarding the big western pharma companies I would speculate incompetence and greed rather than malevolence and a calculated attempt to reduce the population of the world... their first trials might have had catastrophic results but one would hope they learned from the results to modify their vaccines to be less dangerous to the paying customers.

If those first trial figures panned out and 1,500 people died out of 46K people injected from the vaccine then the 3 million plus NZers vaccinated twice and boosted twice you would be seeing .... (3 million divided by 45K equals about 66, so 1,500 times 66... times four injections would be 400K dead kiwis just from the vaccine.

The fact that that number are not dead suggest they changed the mixture or their test subjects were already very sick.

Which is not to say this should be hidden... it should be openly discussed... but with real facts and not emotions... sadly these companies only have themselves to blame with their secrecy clauses to hide the truth... they create conspiracy theories for themselves, which suggests they are embarrassed by the truth so much that even conspiracies look better.

I guess appearing an evil part of the deep state is better than the incompetent greedy bastards that they are.

I think I did not explain it clearly enough. Apart from some very unsettling claims about patents / email exchange for those vaccines before the pandemic (I have not researched them in depth but they do exist) and the extremely short development period, which is also not so easy to explain, the fact that the same part of the virus used in the vaccines to create immunity, the spike protein, is highly toxic in many different ways, turns the vaccination campaign into a carefully laid trap. It is obvious that the same people that developed the virus and then forced upon us the jabs knew this would turn the vaccination into an event with consequences for the global population and would actually reinforce, instead of reducing, the effects of the pandemic, exacerbating the health problems of many people through many different and often hardly noticeable attack paths. Specifically old and sick people have been decimated in the last couple of years, as anyone can confirm from their own environment, and in parallel fertility rates have plummeted. This wilfulness is further indicated by the fact that they did not apply prudence in any way, blocking early treatment, inflating casualties and brazenly trampling on people's rights, leaving no option to forced vaccination and stubbornly doubling down despite low or non-existing effectiveness, mildness of the latest variants and extreme adverse events (as if, you know, they were implementing an agenda rather than reacting rationally to the actual events in the real world). In such condition where emergency approval is needed and the sickness is not well known, you would logically go for approving just the jabs using the most conservative and well known technology, to eliminate one possible uncertainty element, not those based on mRNA. And if AEs where a low fraction of what we have, you would retire them from the market immediately. Instead, we have the governments and agencies doing a grotesque cover-up and lying non-stop to the population. The consequences for the responsible people will be maximum and they cannot ignore that, so it is getting more and more difficult to accept incompetence instead of intent as the explanation.

Re. the casualties: 38k officially just in Europe, considering such statistics (when not blocked by political intent as in this case) fail to detect 85-90% of the actual events and just in a short term (long term ones like cancers , neurodegenerative sickness etc. are even more difficult to catch). That leaves you easily with 500k killed people, but none of the very suspicious cases I know have received any attention from health services, so they will never end up in those lists.

If you research carefully I am sure you will come to the same conclusion, the same many top reputation experts are already stating publicly. It simply makes no sense otherwise.

The argument against milder vaccines (and hence safer and more reasonable) was that they were less effective... that made the mRNA induced overdosing of spike protein "legitimate" in order to ensure the "reaction" of the immune system. Now we know the claimed effectiveness was false and the effect of the vaccine as bad or in some cases even worse than the sickness, and that "reaction" of the immune system so damaging that induced the depletion of the innate immune system due to the exaggerated production of spike protein within the body, opening the door to countless other illnesses, like cancer.

LMFS wrote:The argument against milder vaccines (and hence safer and more reasonable) was that they were less effective... that made the mRNA induced overdosing of spike protein "legitimate" in order to ensure the "reaction" of the immune system. Now we know the claimed effectiveness was false and the effect of the vaccine as bad or in some cases even worse than the sickness, and that "reaction" of the immune system so damaging that induced the depletion of the innate immune system due to the exaggerated production of spike protein within the body, opening the door to countless other illnesses, like cancer.

Due to suppression on information/ data and/or controlled release of the above I will share anecdotal evidence. Since the rollout of the vaccines there have been 3 cases of aggressive cancer in my direct family. Even my dad, who has the immune system of an ox (I have literally never seen him sick, not even the sniffles) has repeatedly complained of being more fatigued and having colds.

Obviously statistics related to excess deaths and stark increases in a wide variety of illnesses (most notably myo-pericarditis, cancer, strokes, blood clots and neurological issues) are everywhere now - but not hitting the MSM hence the Eternal Boomer will disregard them as 'fake news'

I am not posting too much on this thread, not to get really sick of this abomination. But news there are aplenty, many of them very nasty indeed, some positive, as more and more people are realizing what this is all about:

Sars-Cov-2 was Lab Made Under Project DEFUSE
https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/sars-cov-2-was-lab-made-under-project

German Hospital Federation Demands Withdrawal of Vaccination Mandate After Massive Side Effects Revealed
https://rairfoundation.com/german-hospital-federation-demands-withdrawal-of-vaccination-mandate-after-massive-side-effects-revealed/

Military Doctor Testifies under Oath That She Was ORDERED To ‘Cover up’ Vaccine Injuries through Biden Admin Directive
https://thefirstlightreport.com/2022/07/24/military-doctor-cover-up-vaccine-injuries/

Could go on and on for hours...

kvs wrote:I bet all of these doctors got Omicron.   But they were forced to get vax doses.   This is nothing but murder by the state.

Basically, that is what it is, I see no legal principle even remotely justifying it.

The state is theoretically entitled to approve or even force vaccination with experimental products under extremely severe, justified circumstances that threaten the very survival of the human society. When you have:

> No serious illness (i.e. omicron which everyone are getting without even bothering any more to test, report or go to the doctor)
> No effectiveness of the vaccine whatsoever vs. the predominant variant (omicron is not neutralized by alpha-related antibodies)
> AEs of the vaccine itself, even underestimated, are many times bigger than the hospitalization cases prevented (yes it is that bad) (*)

Then you are dealing with outright criminality of the kind that demands summary trials and in essence bringing the world regime down for genocide, there is no other way to name it.

(*) See "Serious adverse events of special interest following mRNA vaccination in randomized trials" by Fraiman et al., among others

Same here, no problem with vaxes in general, but this one is a completely different game and rather a trap than a remedy, for the reasons discussed above. I took one, Pfizer despite my mistrust because it was widely accepted to travel. Had not apparent issues but I checked my antibodies afterwards and they were really high, so I wondered what that crap was doing in my body without myself noticing. After learning more I decided not to take the second dose, and now I am not ready to take any other dose or any other brand, exactly because of what you said. There is no warranty at all that you are not getting an overdose of what is effectively a lab-engineered wide spectrum toxin that will hit you the hardest at that spot which is weaker in your organism. If you take the jabs many months apart they are bad, if you take them in short sequence you are really taking risks, since the first will stress your body and then the second one will overwhelm it. It s a fucking insanity to schedule them in a 21 days period.

Your hard reaction matches what is known from previously sick people that take the jab, apparently it only gets worse. And hypertension is extremely frequent too, I wonder if you are at least accounted as AE or they did not even bothered.

BTW and talking about biocrimes, RU MoD seems committed to expose the bastards activities' last minute details:

Briefing by Lieutenant General Igor Kirillov, Head of Nuclear,Biological and Chemical Protection Troops of the Russian Armed Forces

August 04, 2022
The Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation continues to analyse the military and biological activities of the US and its allies in Ukraine and elsewhere in the world in the light of new information obtained in the liberated territories.

Work continues on the study of biological samples from Ukrainian soldiers who have voluntarily laid down their arms. As we noted earlier, high concentrations of antibiotics were found in their blood, as well as immunological markers indicative of exposure to the renal syndrome and West Nile pathogens, which were being studied by the Pentagon as part of the Ukrainian UP-4 and UP-8 projects.

Particular attention should be paid to the discovery of narcotic drugs, including opioids such as methadone, codepsin, codeterp, as well as ephedrine-type substances: t-phedrine and tri-phedrine, at positions abandoned by Ukrainian military personnel.

The synthetic drug methadone is used in the treatment of drug addiction as a substitute therapy.

As a reminder, in Nazi Germany during World War II, especially between 1943 and 1945, pervitin tablets, an amphetamine derivative, were given to soldiers in order to reduce the psycho-emotional burden, primarily to SS troops.

The drug was also used en masse by US troops in the Korean and Vietnam wars.

A side effect of such addictive drugs is primarily excessive aggression, which explains the extreme cruelty towards civilians displayed by some Ukrainian servicemen, as well as the shelling of towns in Donbass.

In view of the available information on the use of potent stimulants by AFU servicemen, we are studying incoming samples for the presence of this class of compounds. Their traces persist in human organs and tissues for a long time (e.g., in hair - up to six months).

The results will be handed over to the Investigative Committee and used as evidence in investigations into war crimes committed by the Kiev regime.

A few weeks ago, during the special military operation, Rubezhnoye in Lugansk People's Republic was liberated. Documents have been found in the laboratory of the Pharmbiotest medical centre located at 9 Pochaivska Street, confirming that research had been carried out in Ukraine for several years on behalf of the so-called Big Pharma. Clinical trials of unregistered drugs with potentially serious side-effects have been carried out on local residents.

We examined the premises of the centre responsible for clinical trials of medicinal products on volunteers. Evidence was found in them that Western customers regularly visited Pharmbiotest and were allowed access to all stages of the research process. For the convenience of their work, the inscriptions on equipment, room names and working documentation have been duplicated in English.

To avoid reputational risks and legal costs in case of failed trials of new drugs, US and European companies conducted clinical trials on Ukrainian citizens. Volunteer pay was minimal and fatalities could easily be concealed. Neither have there been any serious inspections or oversight by the local authorities.

This is in line with the Western concept of delocalising the most internationally controversial research. In Ukraine, military personnel, low-income citizens and one of the most vulnerable categories of the population, patients in psychiatric hospitals, have been used for this purpose.

We continue to analyse the documentary material uncovered in Rubezhnoye settlement laboratory.

We have already informed that more than 16,000 biological samples, including blood and serum samples, were taken from Ukraine to the US, Georgia and European countries.

Against the background of the US administration's assurances that the genetic information obtained from Ukrainian citizens will be used "...exclusively for peaceful purposes...", I would like to quote a statement by Jason Crowof the US House Intelligence Committee at the North American Security Conference in July.

Crow warned Americans about the dangers of giving their DNA to private companies for testing because: "...there is a possibility that test results will be sold to third parties... and the information obtained could be used to develop biological weapons targeting specific groups... or individuals."

Given the US administration's interest in the study of "narrowly targeted" biological agents, such statements force a fresh look at the causes of the new coronavirus pandemic and the role of US military biologists in the emergence and spread of the COVID-19 pathogen.

In May 2022, Jeffrey Sachs - a leading expert in the respected medical journal The Lancet and professor at Columbia University, the leading academic institution for global biosecurity, told a conference in Spain that "...the coronavirus was artificially created and is very likely to have been created using American advances in biotechnology...".

According to our experts, this is evidenced by the uncharacteristic variability of the genovariants that cause different peaks in the incidence of coronaviruses, significant differences in lethality and contagiousness, uneven geographical distribution, and the unpredictable nature of the epidemic process as a whole. It appears that despite efforts to contain and isolate the disease, the pandemic is being artificially fuelled by the introduction of new variants of the virus in a particular region.

We are considering the possibility that the US Agency for International Development (USAID) was involved in the emergence of the new coronavirus. Since 2009, the agency has funded the Predict programme, which has investigated new species of coronaviruses by capturing bats that carry the viruses. One of the contractors for the project was Metabiota, a company known for its military-biological activities in Ukraine.

Characteristically, in 2019 - before the first COVID-19 cases appeared - the US Johns Hopkins Institute hosted an exercise called 'Event-201', which practised dealing with an epidemic of a previously unknown coronavirus, which, according to the legend of the exercise, was transmitted from bats to humans via an intermediate host, pigs. This is how the 'Spanish flu' virus, which has killed tens of millions of people, became pandemic.

The implementation of the COVID-19 scenario and USAID's emergency wind-down of the Predict programme in 2019 suggest the deliberate nature of the pandemic and US involvement in its emergence.

During the special military operation, documents were seized indicating that USAID and its main contractor, Labyrinth Ukraine, have been participating in the US military bioweapons programme since 2019.

Note the letter from the head of the AFU Sanitary and Epidemiological Department to the director of Labyrinth Ukraine, Karen Saylors. In it, the Ukrainian Armed Forces command declares its readiness to cooperate with USAID on administering vaccines to military personnel and on collecting, processing and transmitting information of interest to the US side.

The choice of the US Agency for International Development to coordinate the work may have been prompted by increasing Russian concern over the activities of Ukrainian bio-laboratories, an attempt to "take the US defence agency out of the loop" and avoid accusations of developing biological weapons.

It has been established that Labyrinth Ukraine is a division of the US company Labyrinth Global Health, and its founders are former employees of Metabiota, a key Pentagon contractor in the military-biological field.

Labyrinth Ukraine took part in UP-9 and UP-10 projects, which studied the spread of African swine fever in Ukraine and Eastern Europe.

I would like to point out that as part of the US Department of Defense's biological threat reduction programme, one of Labyrinth Global Health's research areas has been the study of coronaviruses and monkeypox virus.

On July 23, the World Health Organisation declared the outbreak of monkeypox an international health emergency, and to date the disease has been reported in 76 countries, with over 26,000 cases.

Thus we see a clear trend: infectious disease agents that reach the Pentagon's zone of interest are subsequently pandemic, with US pharmaceutical companies and their patrons, the leaders of the US Democratic Party, as the beneficiaries.

We have previously documented the use of biological weapons by the United States in Cuba. It was about the deliberate spread of Dengue, African swine fever and diseases of economically important crops on the island. I would like to give another example from the US military biology dossier.

In 1997, the Cuban government brought to the attention of the world community the fact that the United States had violated the requirements of the Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention. The charge was based on the testimony of a Cuban pilot who recorded the spraying from a US aircraft of a quarantine biological agent, the palm thrips, which could damage one of Cuba's key agricultural industries.

Although it was possible to initiate an extraordinary meeting of BWC States Parties on this issue, the incident was not investigated due to the lack of a Convention verification mechanism, which the Russian Federation insists on establishing.

Such impunity has contributed to the continued use of bioweapons technology by Washington in Latin America, including the assassination of undesirable politicians.

On July 18, 2022, the President of the Republic of Venezuela, Nicolas Maduro, publicly declared the involvement of the United States in the assassination of former head of state Hugo Chávez.

According to information available to Venezuela, U.S. security services have been working since 2002 on possible ways to eliminate the Venezuelan leader, who has pursued an active anti-American policy. Numerous assassination attempts involving members of the US embassy in Caracas were uncovered and thwarted.

In violation of international law, the United States has been involved in the development of drugs that, when administered in the short term, cause chronic disease and develop various forms of cancer. According to the Venezuelan side, a similar drug was used to poison Chávez by Claudio Díaz, a member of the presidential entourage. She fled Venezuela with the assistance of US intelligence agencies and was subsequently removed to the US to avoid possible publicity about the details of her cooperation with US intelligence agencies.

A causal link between the Venezuelan leader's death and the development of biological weapons is confirmed by forensic evidence and the testimony of Cuban doctors who treated Chavez about the atypical course of the disease and its resistance to the use of medicines.

Thanks to the special military operation, the threats posed by US bio-objects have come to the attention of many international and governmental organisations.

Mass demonstrations against Pentagon-funded biolaboratories have taken place in a number of countries around the world. The Eurasian Economic Union's civil society organisations have passed a resolution to close such biosites.

In this context, we are already seeing a change in the approach of the US military's work in the biological field in other countries. For example, states in which the US conducts dual-targeted research have been asked to sign a collective statement of cooperation with the US solely to "...enhance global health security and reduce the impact of infectious diseases on populations...". It is the word "global" and the rest of the text that draws attention: "led by the United States".

However, additional funding will be available through the Biohazard Reduction Programme for countries loyal to the US initiative.

The Russian Ministry of Defence will continue to analyse the documentary evidence of the US bioweapons programme in Ukraine and will keep you informed of the results.

https://telegra.ph/Briefing-by-Lieutenant-General-Igor-Kirillov-Head-of-NuclearBiological-and-Chemical-Protection-Troops-of-the-Russian-Armed-Force-08-04

Documents of the presentation:

https://disk.yandex.ru/d/fe0rcRhelC_LDA

They are going after them, you can be damn sure they are

Here's to hoping Gaz is reading. You've called me a clown and conspiratory minded person on several occasions and that's all fine and dandy, but the people above are serious individuals that know their stuff.

We wouldn't want to lose our beloved moderator. It's a Russian roulette and your odds are decreasing with every shot your taking. You are now scheduled for your what, 4th or 5th shot?

Your fellow vaxxtard PapaDragon on the other hand, I am willing to pay for his Uber to the nearest vaxx-location.. Naah I am just joking now ;-) . Much love PD and get it through your thick skull that banksters, the government and Big Pharma are not your friend, nor do they care about your.

Looks like the Russian MOD is about to start a little investigation

https://www.rt.com/news/560246-usaid-covid-origin-moscow/

US government may be complicit in emergence of Covid – Russian MoD
Moscow is assessing the possibility that a Washington DC agency played a part in the creation of Covid-19

Russia’s Defense Ministry says it’s investigating the possible role of the US Agency for International Development (USAID) in the creation of the Covid-19 virus.

In a press briefing on Thursday, the head of Russia’s Radiation, Chemical and Biological Defense Forces, Lieutenant-General Igor Kirillov, claimed that US-backed bio-laboratories in Ukraine had been conducting questionable research and clinical tests on Ukrainian citizens, and that “over 16,000 biological samples, including blood and serum samples, were exported from the territory of Ukraine to US and European countries.”

He went on to explain that a statement from Jason Crow, a member of the US House of Representatives Intelligence Committee, who warned Americans that their DNA samples could be used to create targeted biological weapons, caused Russia’s Defense Ministry to “take a fresh look” at the origins of the Covid pandemic.

“Taking into account the interest of the US administration in the study of narrowly targeted biological agents, such statements force us to take a fresh look at the causes of the novel coronavirus pandemic and the role of US military biologists in the emergence and spread of the Covid-19 pathogen,” Kirillov said.

Russia now suspects that USAID might have been directly responsible for the emergence of the Covid-19 virus, according to Kirillov, who pointed to a Lancet article by Columbia professor Jeffry Sachs, who suggested that the virus was likely created in a lab with the help of the America’s latest achievements in the field of biotechnology.

Kirillov pointed out that since 2009, USAID had been funding a program known as “Predict,” conducting research into new coronaviruses which involved the capture of wild bats infected with such pathogens, and that one of the project’s contractors, Metabiota, had been known for its military biological activities on the territory of Ukraine.

In 2019, the agency shut down the ‘Predict’ program while the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security coincidentally began studying the spread of a previously unknown coronavirus.

“The implementation of the COVID-19 development scenario and USAID's emergency phasing out of the Predict program in 2019 suggest the deliberate nature of the pandemic and US involvement in its occurrence,” Kirillov said.

He added that the recent emergence of the monkeypox virus, as well as the US’s purported history of using biological agents against its enemies, has led Moscow to observe a “clear trend” of pathogens which for whatever reason are of interest to the Pentagon, eventually turning into pandemics.

The US has repeatedly denied using biolabs in Ukraine to conduct military research and claims the “46 peaceful Ukrainian laboratories, health facilities and disease diagnostic sites” were used to assist Kiev in improving biological safety, security and disease surveillance for both human and animal health.

The exact origins of the Covid-19 virus have yet to be conclusively proven. However, the World Health Organization (WHO) stated in February 2021 that it was most likely transmitted from an animal, possibly a bat, to humans.