Pakistan will be more than happy to offer US any bases plus anything in its arsenal, including waging a full fledged war against India, if given a direction and support by the US.
Pakistan will not risk direct retribution by India, their position vis India is only getting worse over time.
b) With F22 alone, US can do more than serious initial damage to any country, other than Russia, which would make their Air Forces very weak to carry on any big roles. Brahmos has range of merely 300 km that means US carrier can park at 600km and start on the act.
Even at 250km that means when hung under an Su-30MKI its range is 2,250km...
S-300s can detect stealth F22/B2 at what like 20km, that is far too near. In many a ways F22 is made for the Third World convenience, a total overwhelming factor.
F-22s based in Pakistan would get a nuclear present via ballistic missile or cruise missile... or both.
F-22s are not the most manouverable aircraft and AMRAAM is no super weapon either... India could simply overwhelm them with numbers and get in close and kill them with guns...
Btw, US can fly from Kabul as it is already there plus they have a base in Deigo Garcia in India Ocean. Refuelers will meet them half the way. We have not even discussed the stealth cruise missiles variable. It is so easy for US that it is not even worth discussing.
And how does the US deal with the millions of Indian nationals in the US that might not approve of US actions against their country?
Taleban are largely ineffectual because they have no international support base to equip them. You start attacking India and watch Russian weapons flow to the Taleban and US time there will be short. Diego Garcia and refuelling tankers are targets... Russia wont lift a finger for Libya because Gaddafi was sucking up to Europe and not so much to Russia, so the lost earnings were not significant. If the US tried regime change in India then Russia will likely directly help the Indian forces...
Divert a billion or two for research to cancel out F22s from going on rampage in your country. For now, good diplomacy is all you have got against the USAF and its cousins.
You need to understand risk assessment. An example is an asteroid hitting the Earth. Hasn't happened recently and the chances are not huge for the next few years but the results being so catastrophic means it is worth investing some money into searching for such things and working through a few ideas to solve the problem.
For India the chance of the US going for Regime change or attacking with F-22s is so low that it can be ignored.
In fact the first country in the region to have a super stealthy 5th gen fighter... is India.
India should not be lying awake at night worrying... that would be Pakistan and China, and I would think an Indian attack on those countries is less likely than a US attack on those countries... unless they provoke it it probably wont happen... and it would need to be a serious provocation.
Air Force vise, India and China are not third world countries, they have decent Air Forces. But in total sphere on conditions of living etc. they still are Third World. When more than 50% of people live under $2 a day then what else can be said. No need to argue on this as I will not reply.
So the US was a third world country in the 1930s? As was Germany?
Even if 10% of India or Chinas populations were what the west would consider middle class then they would have more people in that group than the US has.
The fact that 1% of the population have 80% of the wealth in the US suggests to me that the first world is actually worse than the third world in terms of pay equality... and it only seems to get worse.
A gated community is an area where people with money live and the gates are to keep poor people out. You find them in South Africa because of the violence, but guess what... they are becoming common in the US too... where will that lead I wonder.
Obsessed with F22? may be kind of scared.
Don't be.
The US wont attack Russia and if it did it would be the last thing it ever did and F-22s and PAK FAs and Su-35s and F-35s wont make any difference to the result.
I do not know how do the commanders of various air forces go to sleep everyday with this 10kg stress on their heads.........just in case situation goes bad, then how will they deal with this F22. At present they can't, so better raise monthly salaries of their diplomats and foreign policy advisers.
Nothing like the weight on the commanders of the USAF because the F-22 is an expensive dog they have no current or forseen future use for and it is costing them an enormous fortune just to keep them flying... they are currently grounded AFAIK because of problems with the oxygen unit that keeps the pilots alive...
On top of that they have air campaigns in Afghanistan and a potential campaign over Syria and Iran to worry about...
And I agree with Garry, classifying India and China as third world countries is, to put it mildly, weird. China is now the second largest economy in the world, while India is third, and both economies are growing fast while the US and most of the EU are either sluggish or at a standstill.
I also don't like the Euro centric attitude that split white christian western countries, communist countries, and developing countries into three "worlds". There is only one world, and the term third world is meant to be derogatory. The fact is that Europe didn't just pinch gold and oil from the rest of the world to develop they pinched ideas and concepts and pretended they were their own. In fact compared to 19th century Europe it was pirates that had real democracy first...
Is this also true for under jamming environment?
A jammer is an active device that emits energy and can be targetted because of that with long range weapons.
How long do you think before India decides to buy RVV-BD for their Su-30MKIs?
The export model is restricted to 200km range but the domestic Russian model is known to reach 280km. There is no international law that prevents Russia from selling India the domestic model if they wanted to...
Being able to kill jammers and inflight refueling aircraft, and of course JSTARS and AWACS aircraft at almost 300km would be useful... and what would the Americans be able to do about it?
F22s can take off from Deigo Garcia and refuel mid air and go on to their mission.
And when Indian fighters shoot down those tankers will it matter that the F-22s ditching in the sea were not shot down?
Accept it, other than Russia, all the countries will take it hard against F22s. They can prolong the attrition for a while and that's about it.
The F-22 is a difficult target, but when has it actually seen combat? There are so many unknowns about its potential, and mix that of course with the fact that the "NATO" war machine has never really taken on a modern well equipped enemy of any size in the modern era. Even Iran and Syria are rather more of a challenge than Libya or Iraq after a few decades of sanctions...
Accept it, The F-22 has turned out to be little more than just a white elephant.
The fact that it takes 40 hours of maintainence per hour of flight and for its price they probably could have bought 4-5 Minutemen ICBMs, which would be just as unusable, but far more effective and unstoppable.
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