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Chinese aircraft carrier program
magnumcromagnon- Posts : 8138
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- Post n°201
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Yet another Ultron alias?
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- Post n°202
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magnumcromagnon wrote:Yet another Ultron alias?
I think we have three of them running simultaneously right now
walle83- Posts : 976
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- Post n°203
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Backman wrote:MiddleKingdomer wrote:walle83 wrote:Article from Naval news about the Type-003 carrier./quote]
A bit overhyped. Type 003 is conventionally powered. Sure, it has EMALs. To say it is Chinese counterpart of Ford it is not. That would be Type 004.
Yeah. They originally said that the 003 was going to be nuclear. It will probably have the same power plant as the Shangdong. It was probably the righ decision. If they were dealing with their first nuclear and their first emal , it would probably be like the Ford. Loaded with problems
Third carrier was always supose to be a convential carrier. The confusion was with the project numbers of the first two. Originally they were called Type-001 and Type-001A, making the fourth carrier the Type-003. Then suddenly the 001A became Type-002, making the Type-004 the first nuclear carrier.
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JeremySun- Posts : 13
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Coming along. Type 003 seems to be the mass produced second generation carrier with at least 3 planned.
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lancelot- Posts : 3120
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I doubt they will build 3 carriers of that type.
The talk is they will build either 1 or 2 carriers of the Type 003 class.
Then they will switch to a nuclear powered aircraft carrier design.
This is an interim design they are building to test a CATOBAR configuration and get that technology rolling.
It can be used to train the tactics and develop the aircraft they will use in larger carriers.
When they get a working nuclear reactor they will make a larger supercarrier with that instead.
The talk is they will build either 1 or 2 carriers of the Type 003 class.
Then they will switch to a nuclear powered aircraft carrier design.
This is an interim design they are building to test a CATOBAR configuration and get that technology rolling.
It can be used to train the tactics and develop the aircraft they will use in larger carriers.
When they get a working nuclear reactor they will make a larger supercarrier with that instead.
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lancelot wrote:I doubt they will build 3 carriers of that type.
The talk is they will build either 1 or 2 carriers of the Type 003 class.
Then they will switch to a nuclear powered aircraft carrier design.
This is an interim design they are building to test a CATOBAR configuration and get that technology rolling.
It can be used to train the tactics and develop the aircraft they will use in larger carriers.
When they get a working nuclear reactor they will make a larger supercarrier with that instead.
2 seems like a good number for Type 003. By late 2020s there should be 4 carriers: 1 001, 1 002, 2 003, with multiple 004 under construction. By then they'll have at least a dozen 055 cruisers and at least 30 052D destroyers which can provide sufficient escort.
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Im calling it right now. This will beat the Indian carrier to commissioning. No offense at all India. Just get your flattop done
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Backman wrote:Im calling it right now. This will beat the Indian carrier to commissioning. No offense at all India. Just get your flattop done
They are moving in different speed thats for sure. The third Indian carrier wont be ready untill the 2030s. By then the Vikramadity will be on its last legs.
Basicly India will never have more then 2 active carriers, not before the 2040s anyway.
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Apparently the Type-003 carrier will have/be
~325 meter long.
~80 meters wide
~90.000 ton in dicplacement.
3 EMALS catapults.
2 or possibly 3 elevators.
50-60 fighters and helos (J-15T, Z-8 transport helos, Z-20F ASW helos)
2-4 AEW aircrafts (KJ-600)
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40930/close-up-photo-shows-chinas-new-aircraft-carrier-rapidly-taking-shape
https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/leaked-photos-reveal-chinas-new-aircraft-carrier-to-rival-the-us/news-story/3cb749c388973229be489b9cc32fc228
~325 meter long.
~80 meters wide
~90.000 ton in dicplacement.
3 EMALS catapults.
2 or possibly 3 elevators.
50-60 fighters and helos (J-15T, Z-8 transport helos, Z-20F ASW helos)
2-4 AEW aircrafts (KJ-600)
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40930/close-up-photo-shows-chinas-new-aircraft-carrier-rapidly-taking-shape
https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/leaked-photos-reveal-chinas-new-aircraft-carrier-to-rival-the-us/news-story/3cb749c388973229be489b9cc32fc228
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walle83 wrote:Apparently the Type-003 carrier will have/be
~325 meter long.
~80 meters wide
~90.000 ton in dicplacement.
3 EMALS catapults.
2 or possibly 3 elevators.
50-60 fighters and helos (J-15T, Z-8 transport helos, Z-20F ASW helos)
2-4 AEW aircrafts (KJ-600)
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40930/close-up-photo-shows-chinas-new-aircraft-carrier-rapidly-taking-shape
https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/leaked-photos-reveal-chinas-new-aircraft-carrier-to-rival-the-us/news-story/3cb749c388973229be489b9cc32fc228
Sick, easily the most powerful carrier every built in an Asian country (including Turkey and Russia).
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JeremySun wrote:walle83 wrote:Apparently the Type-003 carrier will have/be
~325 meter long.
~80 meters wide
~90.000 ton in dicplacement.
3 EMALS catapults.
2 or possibly 3 elevators.
50-60 fighters and helos (J-15T, Z-8 transport helos, Z-20F ASW helos)
2-4 AEW aircrafts (KJ-600)
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40930/close-up-photo-shows-chinas-new-aircraft-carrier-rapidly-taking-shape
https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/leaked-photos-reveal-chinas-new-aircraft-carrier-to-rival-the-us/news-story/3cb749c388973229be489b9cc32fc228
Sick, easily the most powerful carrier every built in an Asian country (including Turkey and Russia).
I would say that its the most powerful carrier ever built outside the US navy. Somwhere between a Kitty Hawk and Ford class carrier.
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island coming along
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almost ready for launch, then it's on to the second 003
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