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India has decided to purchase the next batch of missiles of the Club-N complex

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http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/nirmala-sitharaman-klub-missiles-navy-defence-acquisition-council/1/1057551.html

The bmpd comment. India became the first customer of the universal missile complex Club (developed for the Club-S submarines and for the Club-N submarines), developed by Novator (Yekaterinburg), an export version of the Caliber complex being developed for the Russian Navy. The Indian side bought primarily anti-ship missiles, which are part of the Club complex, with the supersonic second stage of the 3M54E series. The first contract for the Club complexes was concluded by India in 1998 and included 50 3M54E rockets (a boat version for use from 533 mm torpedo tubes) for the equipping of submarines of Project 08773 (including upgradable ones), for a total of $ 150 million. Then around 2001 the contract for 100 3M54E and 3M54TE rockets (a surface variant in vertical launchers) followed, including for the arms of the project 11356 frigates. Serial deliveries of 3M54E rockets were launched in India in 2000, marking the beginning of their serial production. In the future, additional purchases were made.

In 2006, India acted as the launch customer of another rocket entering the Club complex, having ordered for 28 million dollars 28 cruise missiles 3M14E, designed for high-precision destruction of coastal targets. The missiles, apparently, were purchased to equip submarines of Project 08773 and the nuclear submarine of Project 971I. In 2016 there were reports of India's plans to acquire an additional number of 3M14E rockets.

https://bmpd.livejournal.com/2872374.html

Novosibirsk Aircraft Repair Plant repaired the first five Mi-17-1V helicopters of Indian Air Force



As it was reported on October 4, 2017 on the page "Siberian spotting" social network "VKontakte", JSC "Novosibirsk aircraft repair plant" (NARZ, part of the JSC "Helicopters of Russia") was capital repair repair (CWR), the top five helicopters Mi -17-1V Air Force of India.

Now the helicopters are fully ready for shipment to India, where they are already awaited by NARZ specialists. There they will again pick up the helicopters, bring them to a flying state and give it to the Indian side.

In total, the capacity of the Novosibirsk aircraft repair plant will be repaired 30 Indian Mi-17-1V helicopters. Repair is broken into lots: only six batches - five cars each.

The delivery of helicopters is carried out by the Volga-Dnepr Airlines on An-124 Ruslan planes.

Note bmpd. The Indian Air Force received 40 Mi-17-1V helicopters manufactured by JSC Kazan Helicopter Plant (KVZ) under a contract worth $ 170 million, concluded in May 2000 by Aviaeksport, deliveries were made in 2000-2001. Under a separate contract with the Federal State Unitary Enterprise "Promexport", small arms and missiles were purchased by the Indian side for these helicopters. Another five Mi-17-1V helicopters were received by India from KHZ under an additional agreement in 2004.

Judging by the given "VKontakte" photos, the first five MI-17-1V helicopters of the Indian Air Force, who completed repairs at NARZ, have Indian military numbers Z3345, Z3348, Z3353, Z3354, Z3361.

https://bmpd.livejournal.com/2881009.html

George1 wrote:Novosibirsk Aircraft Repair Plant repaired the first five Mi-17-1V helicopters of Indian Air Force



 As it was reported on October 4, 2017 on the page "Siberian spotting" social network "VKontakte", JSC "Novosibirsk aircraft repair plant" (NARZ, part of the JSC "Helicopters of Russia") was capital repair repair (CWR), the top five helicopters Mi -17-1V Air Force of India.

 Now the helicopters are fully ready for shipment to India, where they are already awaited by NARZ specialists. There they will again pick up the helicopters, bring them to a flying state and give it to the Indian side.

 In total, the capacity of the Novosibirsk aircraft repair plant will be repaired 30 Indian Mi-17-1V helicopters. Repair is broken into lots: only six batches - five cars each.

The delivery of helicopters is carried out by the Volga-Dnepr Airlines on An-124 Ruslan planes.

Note bmpd. The Indian Air Force received 40 Mi-17-1V helicopters manufactured by JSC Kazan Helicopter Plant (KVZ) under a contract worth $ 170 million, concluded in May 2000 by Aviaeksport, deliveries were made in 2000-2001. Under a separate contract with the Federal State Unitary Enterprise "Promexport", small arms and missiles were purchased by the Indian side for these helicopters. Another five Mi-17-1V helicopters were received by India from KHZ under an additional agreement in 2004.

Judging by the given "VKontakte" photos, the first five MI-17-1V helicopters of the Indian Air Force, who completed repairs at NARZ, have Indian military numbers Z3345, Z3348, Z3353, Z3354, Z3361.

https://bmpd.livejournal.com/2881009.html

That seems too cheap to me 40 mi-171V for $170 MN. That's $4.250 MN each I would have thought they cost more than that.

Decks Cleared For the Contract Signing of S-400 ADMS in December
October 17, 2017 forceindia 0 Comment Pravin SawhneyPravin Sawhney

India will purchase five regiments of Russian S-400 Triumf Air Defence Missile System (ADMS) valued at over six billion dollars. The contract is slated to be signed after two months in December in New Delhi as the Contract-Negotiation-Committee (CNC) comprising Russian and Indian officials, which has been working furtively since July, has wrapped up its work. The Union finance ministry has cleared the purchase and the file is with the Prime Minister’s Office.

It will be a government-to-government purchase with no provision for transfer of technology. Russia has assured that the Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) — Almay-Antey Air Defence Corporation — will deal directly with the user, the Indian Air Force, to ensure timely product support. At present, all product support including spares and overhaul is done through Rosoboronexport, which is the official Russian export agency for arms sales.

Since India hopes for an early delivery of S-400, it has not considered Moscow’s offer of credit line for the purchase. Instead, cash will be given in tranches. The first, or perhaps two regiments, could be delivered by early 2020.

Each S-400 regiment comprises two batteries with four launchers each; this makes a total of 40 launchers for five regiments. Interestingly, India has ordered a total of 1,200 missiles in the very long-range and long-range category, with none in the medium and short ranges category. There will be fewer very-long range category missiles as compared with the other category.

S-400 can fire four different missiles: the very long-range 40N6 missile with a range of 400km; the long-range 48N6 missile with a range of 250km; the medium range 9M96E2 with 120km range; and the short-range 9M96E with 40km range. The 40N6 is ideal to kill enemy Airborne Warning and Control Systems (AWACA), while the 48N6 will be able to destroy all air objects including airplanes, helicopters, cruise missiles and ballistic missiles up to the speed of 4,800 meters per second. The ballistic missiles are killed 60km away from the target; this includes nuclear armed missiles which once destroyed will leave a thick nuclear haze over the target. The ideal ballistic missile for destruction could be Pakistan’s Nasr which has been touted as the answer to Indian Army’s Cold Start doctrine on the international border, and the sub-sonic Babur cruise missile.

Five regiments of S-400 will protect two to three major Indian cities including the capital city of New Delhi. In terms of configuration, India would need two surveillance radars each with phased array and multipath radar with range of 600km across 180 degrees to track up to 100 targets simultaneously. Moreover, each regiment which comprises two batteries with eight launchers will require one sectoral radar to acquire hostile target and pass its coordinates to the sectoral command post. Each Tractor Erector Launcher (TEL) which houses the missiles can carry four 48N6 missiles or two 40N6 missiles.

India and Russia had signed the Inter-Governmental Agreement (IGA) for the purchase of S-400 on 15 October 2016 on the side-lines of the BRICS summit in Goa where Prime Minister Narendra Modi had sought an early agreement on the missile system from President Vladimir Putin. The S-400 purchase had been cleared earlier by the Defence Acquisition Council in December 2015. On the occasion of the signing of the IGA, the head of Russian Roctec, Sergey Chemezov had said that he hoped that “the contract would be signed by the middle of 2017. I believe the delivery will begin somewhere in 2020.”

There is a queue for purchase of S-400; while priority goes to the Russian armed forces — which have been inducting the system since 2008 —, China and Turkey have already paid for the purchase. China has sought just one regiment of S-400, perhaps to cover its Taiwan flank. Moreover, there are reports that Algeria too have paid for two regiments of S-400. According to Russian officials, Saudi King Salman, who was recently in Russia on the trip with deep geo-political significance, spoke with the Russian President for an early purchase of S-400.

The purchase of S-400 ADMS — which is known as SA-21 Growler by its NATO name was previously called S-300 PMU-3 — by India has signalled two things. One, India, which has adopted strategic and operational defensive posture against both Pakistan and China needs to protect its metropolitan cities and other high value targets from hostile AWACS (which have the dual purpose of air defence and offensive air operations), ballistic and cruise missiles. China has plenty of these assets and given its inter-operability (ability to fight together for common mission) with Pakistan, has transferred a large number of these to its closest ally.

That India is willing to purchase the S-400 by cash payment is testimony to the hope that Russia might place India ahead in its exports queue. Moreover, India, which was keen that Russia integrates indigenous Akash short-range anti-missile system with the S-400 has now decided to save time by first going ahead with the procurement. In the Russian armed forces, the S-400 has been integrated with the TOR system for short range target destruction. Russia was, therefore, keen that India buys its TOR system too; but this has not made much headway at this juncture.

http://forceindia.net/decks-cleared-contract-signing-s-400-adms-december/

"INDIA ALLOWED US OFFICERS TO STUDY NUCLEAR SUBMARINE LEASED FROM RUSSIA – REPORT."

Indians are not trustworthy people, they are very corrupt in nature. I don't think that submarine had any technology that would harm Russian interests but when selling to India, Russia needs to careful.

https://southfront.org/india-allowed-us-officers-to-study-nuclear-submarine-leased-from-russia-report/

India acquires 240 corrected air bombs KAB-1500L

https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3033900.html

India, Russia fail to finalize S-400 air-defense deal By: Vivek Raghuvanshi   23 hours ago

NEW DELHI ― India’s ongoing negotiations with Russia for the $5 billion-plus purchase of five S-400 Triumf long-range surface-to-air missile systems are in deadlock yet again.

Indian Ministry of Defence officials, top brass with Russian arms export agency Rosoboronexport, and Almaz-Antey, the original equipment manufacturer and designer, have failed to reach a settlement on the price, training, service support and transfer of technology of the missiles, a top MoD official said.

“Russia is demanding $5.5 billion for the five [S-400] units, very high training fee and refusing to give technology transfer of three types of guided missiles,” the official said, adding that no plan has yet been offered for service and a spares-support package.

Another MoD official said the final contract is not going to be signed anytime soon, and India will not pay more than $4.5 billion for the systems. He noted that the deal would incorporate a Make in India economic policy in regard to the manufacturing of spares, the guided missiles and a life-time service support package.

Rosoboronexport executives were unavailable for comment.

https://www.defensenews.com/global/asia-pacific/2018/01/23/india-russia-fail-to-finalize-s-400-air-defense-deal/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Socialflow

According to India MoD, never trust media of India.

That sounds expensive ...

GarryB wrote:They are the best available from anywhere... and were not cheap to develop... why would they be cheap?

Well Turkey gave 500 million per unit. Here it sounds like the 1 billion. There should be something else in the contract because no one would pay so much for an air defenxe system. You can buy a destroyer armed with s 400 with this money. That's weired.

JohninMK wrote:India, Russia fail to finalize S-400 air-defense deal By: Vivek Raghuvanshi   23 hours ago

NEW DELHI ― India’s ongoing negotiations with Russia for the $5 billion-plus purchase of five S-400 Triumf long-range surface-to-air missile systems are in deadlock yet again.

Indian Ministry of Defence officials, top brass with Russian arms export agency Rosoboronexport, and Almaz-Antey, the original equipment manufacturer and designer, have failed to reach a settlement on the price, training, service support and transfer of technology of the missiles, a top MoD official said.

“Russia is demanding $5.5 billion for the five [S-400] units, very high training fee and refusing to give technology transfer of three types of guided missiles,” the official said, adding that no plan has yet been offered for service and a spares-support package.

Another MoD official said the final contract is not going to be signed anytime soon, and India will not pay more than $4.5 billion for the systems. He noted that the deal would incorporate a Make in India economic policy in regard to the manufacturing of spares, the guided missiles and a life-time service support package.

Rosoboronexport executives were unavailable for comment.

https://www.defensenews.com/global/asia-pacific/2018/01/23/india-russia-fail-to-finalize-s-400-air-defense-deal/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Socialflow

FAKE NEWS. Defense News is infamous for publishing fake news & this writer is not an honourable person. They are trying to scuttle the deal so that US can sell SAMs to India.

From the linked article

New Delhi wanted to build all four Krivak III frigates in GSL under ‘Make in India’. However, Yantar had already part-built two frigates for the Russian Navy, which then backed away for lack of funds. New Delhi has obliged Moscow by buying them. The part-built frigates at Yantar are also stalled by a defence embargo that Ukraine imposed on Russia after the latter annexed the Crimea. New Delhi, which has close defence relations with Ukraine, has undertaken to procure and provide Yantar the Zorya turbines that will power these.


Chris Cavas
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#India agrees to $3bil deal to buy 4 "Upgraded #Krivak III" #frigates fm #Russia, to be built in pairs: 1st 2 at #Yantar, Kaliningrad, 2nd 2 at #Goa SY in India. Will join 6 similar ships delivered '03-'04 & '12-'13 all built in Russia.


http://www.business-standard.com/article/economy-policy/navy-agrees-to-buy-four-russian-frigates-for-3-bn-118022600021_1.html

What? It wasn't due to lack of funds. The funding hasn't changed at all. It was waiting for the engines and then prospects changed thus looked to sell them or induct them.

miketheterrible wrote:What? It wasn't due to lack of funds. The funding hasn't changed at all. It was waiting for the engines and then prospects changed thus looked to sell them or induct them.

A nice order for Ukraine, they may have the first two engines already built. The US won't like it at all.

JohninMK wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:What? It wasn't due to lack of funds. The funding hasn't changed at all. It was waiting for the engines and then prospects changed thus looked to sell them or induct them.

A nice order for Ukraine, they may have the first two engines already built. The US won't like it at all.

I know Russia was already having available engines produced by themselves for it. They could even counter Ukraine. But I imagine they are not ready yet so....

par far wrote:Indians are not trustworthy people, they are very corrupt in nature. I don't think that submarine had any technology that would harm Russian interests but when selling to India, Russia needs to careful.

https://southfront.org/india-allowed-us-officers-to-study-nuclear-submarine-leased-from-russia-report/

That's one major problem that Russia faces - selling weapons to third world, uncivilised, corrupt countries like India. In almost all the Corruption perception Index, India finishes at the bottom. It's a cultural problem stemming from the practice of pagan (and therefore dangerous) religions like Hinduism.

I've always argued that Russia needs to diversify its arms export and focus more towards European and Mid Eastern markets. If the proposed sale of S-400 to Saudi Arabia goes through, it will be a good start.

GarryB wrote:Two major flaws in your argument... first of all European markets don't exist for defence sales really because most of them are part of NATO and therefore are the enemy... and also not really interested in buying gear from Russia except to examine it.

Even markets in Asia, Africa were cultivated by the Soviet Union/Russia once, Finland purchased weapons from Russia, no reason why Russia cannot make inroads into Europe, South America , Mid East. Turkey is in NATO but is purchasing S-400.

Being an European country, Russia has far more cultural, social compatability with European countries. With third world, corrupt countries like India it has no compatability. This is exactly what the Yankees do - they remind Europeans that we are Europeans too, so you are safe dealing with us.

Russia needs to seize this initiative from the Yankees. Russia can easily strike major deals initially with fellow Slavic countries and then with other European countries.

GarryB wrote:Second... if you don't trust India because of corruption what the Fuck are you talking about selling shit to Saudi Arabia who is actively supporting terrorists in Chechnia and Syria and Yemen and Iraq and Afghanistan etc etc.

Putin hasn't said even once that Saudis are supporting terrorists in Chechnya. If they had why is Putin selling S-400 to Saudi Arabia and other weapons to gulf states ?

jhelb wrote:

par far wrote:Indians are not trustworthy people, they are very corrupt in nature. I don't think that submarine had any technology that would harm Russian interests but when selling to India, Russia needs to careful.

https://southfront.org/india-allowed-us-officers-to-study-nuclear-submarine-leased-from-russia-report/

That's one major problem that Russia faces - selling weapons to third world, uncivilised, corrupt countries like India. In almost all the Corruption perception Index, India finishes at the bottom. It's a cultural problem stemming from the practice of pagan (and therefore dangerous) religions like Hinduism.

I've always argued that Russia needs to diversify its arms export and focus more towards European and Mid Eastern markets. If the proposed sale of S-400 to Saudi Arabia goes through, it will be a good start.

I agree with garryb Saudi Arabia has been supporting terror groups in Syria which have targeted Russian embassy and troops and yes India is corrupt but so is many other countries. India is looking elsewhere which I feel is a bit of a stab in the back to Russia but India has been a good customer for decades don't forget that.

jhelb wrote:That's one major problem that Russia faces - selling weapons to third world, uncivilised, corrupt countries like India. In almost all the Corruption perception Index, India finishes at the bottom. It's a cultural problem stemming from the practice of pagan (and therefore dangerous) religions like Hinduism.

I've always argued that Russia needs to diversify its arms export and focus more towards European and Mid Eastern markets. If the proposed sale of S-400 to Saudi Arabia goes through, it will be a good start.

I must voice my protest against such a highly divisive and xenophobic statement, which should not be encouraged nor tolerated.

Yes I too share great disgust with regard to India's stifling bureaucracy and corruption, and the ineptitude of successive governments' procurement practices, but let's not descend into such vulgar prejudice against an entire country and religion. 

If Russians truly wish to stand apart and take the lead in dismantling US hegemony in favour of a more equitable, multi-polar world, they need to observe and take notice of President Putin's very admirable and untiring efforts to constantly reach out and engage with the international community, and with people of all colours, races and religions (in spite of Western resistance and opposition).

As an outsider, I am truly impressed by the man's civility and composure , which would I guess contribute to his high favourability ratings. Many within and abroad may do well to at least aspire to be as respectful and as dignified.

Russia to sign contract with India on building Project 11356 frigates — source

The first two frigates will be built at Russia’s Yantar Shipyard on the Baltic coast and the other two at an Indian shipyard, according to the source

MOSCOW, April 17. /TASS/. Russia and India are set to sign a contract on the construction of four Project 11356 frigates under a "two plus two" formula" in June this year, a source in diplomatic and military circles told TASS on Tuesday.

"In June, a package contract is expected to be signed with India on the construction of four Project 11356 ships," the source said, adding that the document stipulated building frigates "under a two plus two formula:" the first two at Russia’s Yantar Shipyard on the Baltic coast and the other two at an Indian shipyard.

Russia’s Federal Service for Military and Technical Cooperation and the state arms seller Rosoboronexport declined to comment on this information for TASS.

As the source also noted, the hulls of Project 11356 frigates available at the Yantar Shipyard would not be used for implementing the contract and "the warships will be completely new."

The ongoing negotiations with the Indian side "are aimed at settling all the issues, including the price of the frigates’ construction."

The source did not specify the expected timeframe of the contract’s fulfillment. The source also declined to specify the propulsion units that would be mounted on Indian frigates - either the power units developed at Russia’s Saturn manufacturer or engines ordered by India from Ukraine’s Zorya-Mashproekt enterprise.

In India, the frigates may be built at the Goa Shipyard Limited. As part of the Defexpo-2018 arms exhibition held in India’s Chennai, the company’s advertising materials indicated that the commencement of the frigates’ construction was expected in mid-2020. Russia earlier built six such warships (Talwar-class frigates) for India.

Russia-India negotiations under the contract

Negotiations are currently underway on the delivery of four Project 11356 frigates to India. Director for International Cooperation and Regional Policy at Russia’s state hi-tech corporation Rostec Viktor Kladov earlier said the planned contract would be implemented under the ‘two plus two formula’ where two frigates were expected to be built in Russia and delivered ready-made to India while the other two warships would be built by the Indian shipbuilding industry at one of national shipyards.

Three hulls of warships laid down in Kaliningrad for the Russian Black Sea Fleet were earlier intended to be used for the construction of Indian frigates. However, Russian Navy Deputy Commander-in-Chief Viktor Bursuk later said these frigates will be built in the interests of Russia’s Navy.

Project 11356 warships displace about 4,000 tonnes, develop a speed of 30 knots and have an endurance of 30 days.


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