Russia - Egypt military contracts

G Bob wrote:This would certainly be a very sweet site to see  although I'd wait for talks to end because the word "clear" at the end of the article of the link you provided could mean a lot of things!
The Mig 35 has an enormous array of missiles that would be very useful to EAF ( Egyptian Air Force) and something to die for right now!

G Bob wrote:Dude, I really appreciate all the new updates on the s300VM you have mentioned, I was actually struck, it's all new to my ears! To be honest I was a bit overwhelmed since most of my data came from official websites. Could you please provide us with links concerning the modernization/updates on the s300vm because I hardly found any when I looked into it. I did find this one article on "Russia & India Report" but it wasn't a very detailed one, it mentioned the the new 350km updates thought

After modernization, the S-300B provided: increase in the range of aerodynamic destruction of aerial targets up to 400 km, increasing the area covered up to strokes operational-tactical and tactical missiles - in 3-4 times, and defeat short-range missiles and medium range ballistic missiles - with range of start-up to 3,500 km.

G Bob wrote:Would be really great and a big relief if there were more sources to be found esp. on the new s300 ECM updates.

G Bob wrote:I totally agree, Garry. That last "Mig35 talks" article (that was provided thanks to Victor) was very pleasing to hear, came as
music to my ears merely because it shows that the jets contract haven't been finalized yet and it's going to be on a separate deal (also shows that the earlier reports were true and that this is an initial deal with more yet to come )  so I'm personally concluding that's the last 3.5 B$ deal was mainly for the air defence sector (probably with a few anti tanks/Kornet ) and so I beleive there's a high probability of a Pantsir-s1 coming along with the modernization of past deals and maybe a handful of extra Tor and Buks or at least that's what I'm hoping for

Anas Ali wrote:what is above this MT-LBu ?

mack8 wrote:Can this be confirmed from our egyptian members ?!
https://newhub.shafaqna.com/EN/ru/6638834

24 jets is just the beginning for sure, there's a lot of work that needs to be done to the EAF fleet! I bet this batch is just for more investigation and how the EAF will cope with new Russian jets probably in terms of servicing.

GarryB wrote:

24 jets is just the beginning for sure, there's a lot of work that needs to be done to the EAF fleet! I bet this batch is just for more investigation and how the EAF will cope with new Russian jets probably in terms of servicing.

AFAIK they have greatly improved the servicing of their aircraft and offer flight simulators that are now world class.

In fact their new flight sim complete with full cockpit displays was fully 3D without 3D glasses and seemed very impressive in the article that mentioned it.

sepheronx wrote:

G Bob wrote:

GarryB wrote:

24 jets is just the beginning for sure, there's a lot of work that needs to be done to the EAF fleet! I bet this batch is just for more investigation and how the EAF will cope with new Russian jets probably in terms of servicing.

AFAIK they have greatly improved the servicing of their aircraft and offer flight simulators that are now world class.

In fact their new flight sim complete with full cockpit displays was fully 3D without 3D glasses and seemed very impressive in the article that mentioned it.

Impressive indeed, I hope we see those birds in Egyptian skies soon, if it was up to me I'd move the Egyptian f-16 to the 2nd line to do the jobs of the old fighters that are being put to rest, cancel any ideas of manufacturing a new fighter and buy new top notch ones!

I wouldn't cancel about ideas of manufacturing aircrafts.

Actually, if Egypt plays it right, they may be able to get Russia to open up a manufacturing plant for various parts/technologies that will go into Egypts next fighter.  This is why Russia should offer egypt something like Su-30MKI variant (without Israeli equipment) and work with HAL (India) to get a plant going in Egypt to make/assemble the jets.  Jobs for Egyptians.  As well, as Irkutsk said they want to get out of the Su-30 market eventually, this could mean that Egypt and India can take over and make good money on further modifications with either Russian or their own technologies and Irkutsk can still make money off of spare parts development.

The aircraft doesn't need to be stealth.  The problem is everyone these days wants stealth everything but methods on detecting stealth is just getting more and more impressive and now the Americans themselves are going back to the drawing board in order to come up with new methods (speed).  So an Su-30 can be further upgraded to handle 5th gen technologies and new materials to reduce the radar cross section considerably and you can have a competitive aircraft to PAK FA without spending the fortune.

This is just what I am thinking.  Hopefully Egypt goes the route where they kinda twist Russia's arm into getting something that will benefit egyptians in long run.  It doesn't even have to single out just a jet fighter.  It could also be used to assemble and build parts for bigger planes like transport if Egypt ever went the route of wanting to buy Il-478's.

not sure why but I think it's because they like to apear being more defnisive than hostile or appear as a threat with long range/heavy weight fighters!!

GarryB wrote:

not sure why but I think it's because they like to apear being more defnisive than hostile or appear as a threat with long range/heavy weight fighters!!

I think the MiG-29M2 is a very underrated fighter and the MiG-35 will be even more capable... fitted with an AESA radar and RVV-BD 200km range AAMs and you have a very potent aircraft.

In air to air combat with India, the US learned that smaller fighters are harder to see and an aircraft as agile as the MiG would be a very real threat to even the best modern fighter.

Obviously training of the pilots also is critical... you can't just do an Iron Eagle... (ie put a teenager into the cockpit and expect him to perform real missions like a professional.)

Anas Ali wrote:Egypt is "interested in creating a reliable system of air defense as precision weapons, cruise missiles and strike aviation are chiefly used in modern wars,"  

does this mean that Egypt want to built its  own system using Russian help or he means that Egypt is interested on defending its sky's using Russian systems ?

Anas Ali wrote:Egypt is "interested in creating a reliable system of air defense as precision weapons, cruise missiles and strike aviation are chiefly used in modern wars,"  

does this mean that Egypt want to built its  own system using Russian help or he means that Egypt is interested on defending its sky's using Russian systems ?

ahmedfire wrote:President of Egypt: Cairo appreciates the support of Moscow

November 13-14, 2013 in Cairo, the first Russian-Egyptian meeting in the format of "two plus two" ministers of defense and foreign ministers of Russia and Egypt. The participants agreed to intensify the exchange of delegations and expand cooperation in military air and naval forces of the two countries. According to some experts, the negotiations were agreed contracts worth more than $ 3 billion for the supply of 24 MiG-29M / M2, 12 attack helicopters Mi-35M, mobile coastal missile system K300P "Bastion" SAM "Tor-2ME" firearms weapons and ammunition. According to other sources, in a package deal also included ATGM "Cornet" and Mi-8/17. For the Egyptian side, these agreements were of particular significance in the light of the suspension of the supply of US weapons in July 2013 due to the ouster of President Mohamed Morsi.

August 12, 2014 at the talks in Sochi, Russian President Vladimir Putin and Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi agreed to further deepen cooperation in the sphere of military-technical cooperation

http://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1758001