Russia - Egypt military contracts

Werewolf wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

sepheronx wrote:MiG denies the claims of Egypt ordering MiG-29's. So no sale.

http://tass.ru/en/russia/815765

Sucks, I thought egypt would have change of heart as well as the temp sanctions would have been temorarly changed their minds. But seems that US still has a strong grasp on Egypt.

What the hell is going on?!?! Within the same article MiG is also claiming that they have 'no' plans to supply Mig-31's to Syria....which begs the question why are so many news articles contradicting each other on the issue of supplying Syria with MiG-31's?

New stealth technology, claim you supply them and deny it at the same time. Schrödinger's MiG-31...

Mikoyan must of been omnipresent then...

flamming_python wrote:Because ofc if Egypt doesn't order MiG-29s, it means then US still has a strong grip on the country - it's the only possible explanation.


Fanboys

Well, let say I was a leader of a country. And in said country, I made a decision that warranted for other powers whom I usually purchased goods from, try to find a method to dispose of me or cause some sort of harm to my security capabilities and economy. Then, all of a sudden, because some other country tries to get closer to me, I all of a sudden get access to be able to purchase these goods again. What do you think I would do? I would seek out alternatives. Regardless if it is Russian or Chinese or whatever. I wouldn't go back to purchasing the same as before. I would seek out alternatives and ways to secure my countries security without this happening again; localize production of parts and what not.

That said, you are right. Doesn't mean that the US ends up with a strong grip over it. But at the same token, doesn't make much sense to me neither. Unless those F-16's were a darn good deal.

sepheronx wrote:That said, you are right.  Doesn't mean that the US ends up with a strong grip over it.  But at the same token, doesn't make much sense to me neither.  Unless those F-16's were a darn good deal.

Egypt has already ordered two dozens Rafales.

ExBeobachter1987 wrote:

sepheronx wrote:That said, you are right.  Doesn't mean that the US ends up with a strong grip over it.  But at the same token, doesn't make much sense to me neither.  Unless those F-16's were a darn good deal.

Egypt has already ordered two dozens Rafales.

Expensive too. More than what I think India was going to pay.

sepheronx wrote:

ExBeobachter1987 wrote:

sepheronx wrote:That said, you are right.  Doesn't mean that the US ends up with a strong grip over it.  But at the same token, doesn't make much sense to me neither.  Unless those F-16's were a darn good deal.

Egypt has already ordered two dozens Rafales.

Expensive too. More than what I think India was going to pay.

lol they arent expensive when you arent buying with your own money

Prince Darling wrote:

sepheronx wrote:

ExBeobachter1987 wrote:

sepheronx wrote:That said, you are right.  Doesn't mean that the US ends up with a strong grip over it.  But at the same token, doesn't make much sense to me neither.  Unless those F-16's were a darn good deal.

Egypt has already ordered two dozens Rafales.

Expensive too. More than what I think India was going to pay.

lol they arent expensive when you arent buying with your own money

Saudi money, yes? If so, then you are correct.

Ka-52 helicopter for Egypt

According to the corporation to complete the Ka-52 has developed a new electro-optical sighting system ECO-52. In the next 2 years it is proposed to hold its flight tests, and in 2016 it begins mass production of helicopters for delivery to Egypt. Total for 2016-2019. It is planned to produce about 50 products ECO-52

https://translate.google.com.eg/translate?hl=ar&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Falexeyvvo.livejournal.com%2F135596.html

Russian & English version , posted both cause they differ.

Source: Egypt buys 50 Russian Alligator helicopters, deck-based version may be supplied
http://tass.ru/en/defense/823140

If true, good news. I imagine with Mistral deal, Ka-52K will end up in Egypt as well.

Nice    ... and the MiG-35 story is active again

Egypt steps up interest in MiG-35 deal with Russia

Egypt's interest in acquiring the RAC MiG-35 has developed into negotiations with Russia to purchase 46 fighters in a deal which could be worth up to $2.2 billion.

According to Russian media reports, RAC MiG chief executive Sergei Korotkov says the company is ready to supply MiG-35s to Cairo. The model is the Russian air force's latest-generation fighter, and is a successor to earlier versions of the MiG-29 series.

Viktor wrote:Nice    ... and the MiG-35 story is active again

Egypt steps up interest in MiG-35 deal with Russia

Egypt's interest in acquiring the RAC MiG-35 has developed into negotiations with Russia to purchase 46 fighters in a deal which could be worth up to $2.2 billion.

According to Russian media reports, RAC MiG chief executive Sergei Korotkov says the company is ready to supply MiG-35s to Cairo. The model is the Russian air force's latest-generation fighter, and is a successor to earlier versions of the MiG-29 series.

Remember the S300VM story?.....Ordering followed by denying then acquiring  
Reliable Egyptian sources here already confirmed the purchase of 50 Ka52 and 46 Mig35 six months ago

What is happening withe the S-300VMs anyway, the first ones were finished a few months ago (if indeed they were destined for Egypt) surely they should have arrived by now?

Anyway, today's news are Egypt will apparently buy the two Mistrals (delivery in March next year), presumably the 50 Ka-52 should mostly be earmarked to equip them.

mack8 wrote:What is happening withe the S-300VMs anyway, the first ones were finished a few months ago (if indeed they were destined for Egypt) surely they should have arrived by now?

Anyway, today's news are Egypt will apparently buy the two Mistrals (delivery in March next year), presumably the 50 Ka-52 should mostly be earmarked to equip them.

Mate, Don't forget we're talking about Egypt here (let me refresh your mind with the Buk1/2 and Tor1/2), if you're waiting for images then it's not going to be any time soon neither concrete official announcements regarding this unless probably Russia does it first and deals with it as the French do! All the late French Hardware were officially announced from the French side first. As for the French Rafales and their appearances when delivered, I believe that it held some kind of political messages also with foreign aspects regarding the remaining f-16 block 52 held back by the US. Anyway did the S300 appear in any other country? If no then be assured it's likely in Egypt

We knew about the 50 Ka52 some time ago and way before the Misterals so most likely non of these 50 are the naval kind thus not for the Misterals although I'm confident that naval Ka52-k will be on top of the 2 LHD Ships, most likely another deal to be signed in the near future unless Egypt and Russia come to terms about editing the contract that already have been "signed" taking into consideration that the 50 helos will take some time for production (not impossible but quite unlikely)!

Russia to Hold Talks With Egypt on Sales of Equipment for Mistrals

Russia to hold talks with Egypt on the possible purchase by Cairo of the Russian equipment for the Mistral helicopter carriers.

MOSCOW (Sputnik) — Russia will hold talks with Egypt on the possible purchase by Cairo of the Russian equipment for the Mistral helicopter carriers on October 21-23, a source in the military-technical cooperation sphere said Saturday.

"Today a deal is out of the question. There is a discussion going on of what the Egyptian side could be interested in, what we could offer them and what we could supply them with. Breakthrough should not be expected," the source told RIA Novosti.

Cairo and Paris signed a contract earlier this month for the purchase of two French-made Mistral-class helicopter carriers originally built for Russia.

The source told the media outlet earlier that the Russian specialists would remain in France until November to uninstall the equipment from the ships, while Egypt was interested in it.

Egypt emerged as France’s replacement customer for the Mistrals in September 2015, after Paris and Moscow formally terminated a 2011 deal on the construction and delivery of the two ships. In November 2014, France suspended the contract, claiming Moscow's alleged participation in the Ukrainian conflict.

Russia and France are expected to sign the final documents on the removal of radio-electronic systems from the Mistral-class helicopter carriers in early November.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20151017/1028672604/mistrals-egypt-russia-purchase.html#ixzz3opxRlkRo

Success !!!!

Ivanov: Russia and Egypt have agreed on the "Mistral"

Russia, Egypt Discuss Antey-2500, Buk Missile Systems Delivery

Rostec head Sergey Chemezov said that Russia is holding talks with Egypt on the delivery of Antey-2500 anti-ballistic missile system and Buk surface-to-air missile system

DUBAI (Sputnik) – Russia is holding talks with Egypt on the delivery of Antey-2500 anti-ballistic missile system and Buk surface-to-air missile system, Russia’s state technologies corporation Rostec head Sergey Chemezov said Sunday.

“Today we are considering a possibility of delivering to Egypt missile systems Antey-2500 and Buk, negotiations continue,” Chemezov said during the Dubai Airshow.

Russia’s state arms exporter Rosoboronexport will supply to foreign countries arms worth at least $12.5 billion until the end of the year, Russia’s state technologies corporation Rostec head said.

"Rosoboronexport should reach $12.5 billion. We hope, it will be a little more. But we will definitely fulfill the plan," Chemezov said during the Dubai Airshow.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/business/20151108/1029768035/russia-egypt-antey.html#ixzz3qtE0cU2H

I am all baffled now. I thought Egypt already ordered Antey-2500 and the desert cammo ones we saw in summer are meant for it! So still no contract yet, let alone deliveries!?

However, now we have this piece of news, which says Egypt should receive 40 targeting pods for MiG-35 from 2016. So  a contract for about 40 MiG-35 already signed?
http://www.aex.ru/news/2015/11/9/144717/

Finally, not specifically about exports, but this article says that new OLS systems for MiG-35 and Su-35 should be delivered from 2017. I can only guess that it can possibly be interpreted as new OLS for VKS's future MiG-35S and Su-35S, rather than having to do with export MiG-35, which might use the older OLS?
http://ria.ru/technology/20151109/1317166767.html#ixzz3qzpHY14D

Contract signed  

Russian Helicopters confirms agreement with Egypt for 46 Kamov Ka-52 aircraft   More: http://tass.ru/en/defense/847966

Looks like the Egyptian Navy will have some helicopters for the Mistrals as the rumours turn into an order.

Egypt is to acquire 46 navalised Kamov Ka-52K attack helicopters to equip its new French-built Mistral-class amphibious assault ships.

According to Kamov parent Russian Helicopters, the deal with Cairo has been signed via Russia’s Rosoboronexport arms export agency.

Writing in the latest issue of its corporate magazine, Russian Helicopters chief executive Alexander Mikheev says despite the “challenging environment” for overseas sales, it was still able to bring in new business.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/egyptian-navy-buys-46-ka-52k-attack-helicopters-420479/

Good for Kamov and for Egypt, Russia didn't really needed Mistrals - it wasn't something Russian shipbuilding corporation couldn't design and lay down on it's own. Russia got it's mistral deal money back, contracts with Egypt on helicopters and keep deepening it's ties with Cairo.
Win-win situation.

50 Mig-29 for Egypt.

http://www.menadefense.net/2016/02/06/les-mistrals-bientot-livres-a-legypte-et-50-mig29m2-en-bonus/

This is good news for Egypt as the MiG-29M and MiG-29M2 are very good aircraft underrated in the west.

With President S they will be even better.