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Russia’s Two-Pronged Approach to Militarizing the Arctic
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Tsavo Lion wrote:Russia’s Two-Pronged Approach to Militarizing the Arctic
Inflammatory and alarmist language. Russia is securing its sovereignty and rights in the Arctic. No NATO MSM ever calls the US Naval operations in the South China
Sea as "militarizing the South China Sea" or similar BS. Putting up and restoring military bases on its own territory is the definition of defense. The term
"militarizing" insinuates build up of forces for aggressive action. The clowns who are planning aggressive military action in the Arctic are the USA and its minions.
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True, but the title aside, the article summarizes the latest developments there. Canada been militarizing her Arctic too, & Alaska is as militarized as it ever was, if not more.
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kvs wrote:Tsavo Lion wrote:Russia’s Two-Pronged Approach to Militarizing the Arctic
Inflammatory and alarmist language. Russia is securing its sovereignty and rights in the Arctic. No NATO MSM ever calls the US Naval operations in the South China
Sea as "militarizing the South China Sea" or similar BS. Putting up and restoring military bases on its own territory is the definition of defense. The term
"militarizing" insinuates build up of forces for aggressive action. The clowns who are planning aggressive military action in the Arctic are the USA and its minions.
Russia in an aggressive way builds its cities close to newly built NATO bases. BTW hwat US destroyers do in Black Sea? or UK fighters over Baltic? they are stabilizing situation.
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Chinese media evaluated the trick of Russia with the protection of the NSR
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Ain't got a clue what's this supposed to be exactly but description says "Arctic unmanned bus" so I'm putting it here:
https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/120639/
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Could be used in Sabetta and the other "cities" on the Yamal Peninsula.
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https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/industry-and-energy/2019/06/here-comes-russias-next-grand-arctic-seaport
On the desolate shores on peninsula Gydan comes the terminal that is to serve one of Russia’s biggest ever Arctic projects.
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America wants to take on the Arctic
http://nvo.ng.ru/gpolit/2019-06-21/1_1049_arctic.html
http://nvo.ng.ru/gpolit/2019-06-21/1_1049_arctic.html
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Port Dikson in Russia’s Krasnoyarsk Region to be opened for foreign vessels
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https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/industry-and-energy/2019/06/small-town-dikson-gets-key-role-big-arctic-plan
Small town Dikson gets key role in big Arctic plan
The about 550 people living in the outpost on the Kara Sea coast could soon face big change as the federal government early this month decided to give the local seaport international status.
Behind the decision lies a plan to boost shipments on the Northern Sea Route, the government informs. Foreign vessels will now be allowed to sail into local ports to load and unload goods.
Dikson is located on the northwestern coast of great peninsula Taymyr, near the major Taybass coal deposits owned by company Vostok Coal.
The company controlled by powerful businessman Dmitry Bosov intends to ship out as much as 20 million tons of coal per year from the area by 2024. Two major fields are under development and commercial production due to start in 2019, the company says.
A third major license area was obtained earlier this year.
Two major new seaports are to be built. The Chayka and Sever terminals will be able to handle combined quantities of more than 30 million tons of coal per year. Despite the shrinking international demands, all of the Taybass coal is aimed at export.
The new terminals will also be able to handle coal from the Syradasayskoye field, the federal government argues. The Syradasayskoye is located further south in the peninsula. It is controlled by company Severnaya Zvezda and planned developed with the building of a 120 long new railway. The field can produce up to 10 million tons of coal per year, TASS reported.
And the future of Dikson is more than coal. It is also oil.
Company Neftegazholding intends to build a more than 400 km long pipeline from its Payakha fields to the Sever terminal. Annual shipments from site will ultimately amount to 26 million tons, the company says.
The grand development plans in Taymyr come as federal authorities is grappling with President Putin’s order to boost annual shipments on the Northern Sea Route to 80 million tons by year 2024.
«Thanks to the development of these investment projects the increase in shipments on the Northern Sea Route will be provided,» the government decree reads.
If the ambitious targets for the Northern Sea Route are met, Russia will by 2024 export more than 35 million tons of LNG from Yamal and nearby Gydan, as well as more than 20 million tons of coal and 20 million tons of oil from Taymyr.
The remote peninsula constitutes the northernmost part of mainland Russia and climatic conditions are extreme. Nature is vulnerable and industrial activities could seriously affect local ecosystems.
The plans to develop the coal resources in the area and the projected seaports have already encountered opposition from environmental authorities who argue that they could encroach on protected nature territories in the area.
With the new governmental decree, the project developers might have got the carte blanche they have been waiting for.
According to the federal government, the adopted decision provides the necessary permissions to «allocate lands, prepare documentation on territorial planning», as well as «to build capital objects.»
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As I was saying, Su-34 r to patrol the NSR:
https://regnum.ru/news/it/2656001.html
https://regnum.ru/news/it/2656001.html
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Tsavo Lion wrote:As I was saying, Su-34 r to patrol the NSR:
https://regnum.ru/news/it/2656001.html
Makes sense, pressurized cockpit
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Also their range & payload r why they r being chosen.
https://www.gazeta.ru/army/2019/06/30/12466393.shtml?updated
The United States will build a military port in the Arctic
http://www.ng.ru/news/651337.html
https://www.gazeta.ru/army/2019/06/30/12466393.shtml?updated
The United States will build a military port in the Arctic
http://www.ng.ru/news/651337.html
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https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/security/2019/07/big-supplies-its-way-northern-fleets-arctic-bases
https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/security/2019/05/ships-bring-20000-tons-construction-materials-worlds-northernmost-airstrip
https://www.highnorthnews.com/en/new-satellite-images-reveal-extent-russias-military-and-economic-build-arctic
RuNAVY is now intensively building their whole year airbases Nagurskoe in Zemlya Aleksandra island and Temp in Kotelnyi island. Nagurksoe will have 2.500 m long runway and Temp will have 1.800 m long runway. I hope they will place enough Resonans OTH radars to fully cover Arctic region. They also need enough Mi-8AMTSH-VA helicopters for SAR operations. At least two per base, but better more for 24 hour readiness.
A long winter is over and soon a new one will be on its way. Stockpiles are low and the people serving along the vast Russian northern coast and the remote Arctic archipelagos are soon hungry for fresh supplies.
There is no other way to get the goods delivered than by boat, and the delivery season is short. In October, the ice will again start to cover the seaways and make shipping expensive and complicated.
The Northern Fleet is in a hurry to get its many bases equipped and ready for a new cold season, and ships are now shuttling across Arctic waters with deliveries.
According to the Navy, a total of 17,300 tons had been delivered by mid-July. Another 20,000 tons are left to be shipped. The full amount of about 37,000 tons is to be safely delivered by 1st October.
There are as many as 60 bases and units across the region that are to be supplied. They are located in 48 different remote and hard-to-reach places, the Northern Fleet informs.
The Russian Armed Forces have over the last years significantly strengthened its presence in the Arctic and there are now more servicemen based in the region than any time before. Among the biggest new and upgraded bases in the region are the ones in Franz Josef Land, Novaya Zemlya, New Siberian Islands, Tiksi, Cape Shmidt and Wrangle Island.
A number of ships are involved in the deliveries. Among them is the nuclear-powered container ship «Sevmorput». The 260 meter long vessel with a deadweight of 33,000 tons has recently been engaged in deliveries to the Nagurskoye base in Franz Josef Land.
The vessel in early July loaded a big number of 21-ton heavy modules destined one of the Arctic military bases, the Murmansk Commercial Seaport informs.
https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/security/2019/05/ships-bring-20000-tons-construction-materials-worlds-northernmost-airstrip
It is located on Franz Josef Land at 80 degrees North and built to be able to handle all kinds of aircrafts, including the biggest in the country’s Air Force. This week, a ship delivered 9,000 tons of construction materials to the remote Arctic archipelago. That came after delivery of another 11,000 tons just few weeks ago.
Included in the cargo were concrete plates for the 2,500 meter long runway. Also electric cables were part of the shiploads, the Northern Fleet informs.
It will be the airstrip located closest to the North Pole, further north than Norway’s Longyearbyen and Thule in Greenland. It will also be significantly further north than the Kotelny base in the New Siberian Islands.
It was the cargo ship «Vitus Bering» that this week delivered the goods to the remote island, representatives of the Northern Fleet say. The ship belongs to an ice-breaking class of vessels called Project 10620 that was extensively used for Arctic shipping in the 1980s and 1990s. A total of five ships of the class were built. A modified vessel of the kind called Project 10621 was subsequently built. The latter includes the «Ivan Papanin» and the «Xue Long», the current Chinese icebreaker.
According to shipping data, the «Vitus Bering» was taken out of service in 2003 and the «Ivan Papanin» - in 2018. However, judging from the information from the Northern Fleet, the former has now been taken back into service and now operates for the Navy.
There is still up to one meter thick ice around major parts of the Franz Josef Land, and icebreaking capacities is a necessity for the deliveries. According to the Navy, the construction materials were put straight on the ice and subsequently brought to land.
The Nagurskoye air field is now 70 percent finished, the Northern Fleet says.
Several ships delivered goods to the Nagurskoye also in fall 2018. In September, two ships brought several thousand tons of construction materials to the base. The cargo first of all included reinforced concrete plates and big bags with granulated materials for the airstrip, port authorities said.
In east Arctic archipelago of New Siberian Island, the Temp airbase is about 1800 meters long.
Russia is also building new and upgraded air bases along its Arctic coast, including in Tiksi, Vorkuta, Anadyr and Alykel.
https://www.highnorthnews.com/en/new-satellite-images-reveal-extent-russias-military-and-economic-build-arctic
RuNAVY is now intensively building their whole year airbases Nagurskoe in Zemlya Aleksandra island and Temp in Kotelnyi island. Nagurksoe will have 2.500 m long runway and Temp will have 1.800 m long runway. I hope they will place enough Resonans OTH radars to fully cover Arctic region. They also need enough Mi-8AMTSH-VA helicopters for SAR operations. At least two per base, but better more for 24 hour readiness.
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Ain't got a clue what's this supposed to be exactly but description says "Arctic unmanned bus" so I'm putting it here:
https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/120639/
Ah these things, I love these things. Really good All Terrian vehicles, made from a Russian Company, I own one. Cost me like 100K but totes with it, easily my preferred All Terrian vehicle.
They really did well with these. It's a modified Sherp.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrjjV6nGh0g
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Interesting vid... the next one after that shows a whole lot of rednecks driving huge utes with big tires and enormous engines through a trench filled with mud and water. The Sherp is almost cheating as it is amphibious, but then those American vehicles are supposed to be designed to operate in that terrain... hense they are testing them.
American vehicles are all noise and fuel consumption and tires and seem to get stuck really quick, while the Russian just floats right across... the commentators and those that comment below complain that amphibious vehicles are cheating, but it seems to me an amphibious vehicle is the obvious choice to defeat the obstacle.
Seems to me they picked the wrong sort of test for their vehicles... and the guy who won took a gun to a knife fight... ironic really as the US military tend to take star destroyers to conkers fights anyway...
American vehicles are all noise and fuel consumption and tires and seem to get stuck really quick, while the Russian just floats right across... the commentators and those that comment below complain that amphibious vehicles are cheating, but it seems to me an amphibious vehicle is the obvious choice to defeat the obstacle.
Seems to me they picked the wrong sort of test for their vehicles... and the guy who won took a gun to a knife fight... ironic really as the US military tend to take star destroyers to conkers fights anyway...
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GarryB wrote:Interesting vid... the next one after that shows a whole lot of rednecks driving huge utes with big tires and enormous engines through a trench filled with mud and water. The Sherp is almost cheating as it is amphibious, but then those American vehicles are supposed to be designed to operate in that terrain... hense they are testing them.
American vehicles are all noise and fuel consumption and tires and seem to get stuck really quick, while the Russian just floats right across... the commentators and those that comment below complain that amphibious vehicles are cheating, but it seems to me an amphibious vehicle is the obvious choice to defeat the obstacle.
Seems to me they picked the wrong sort of test for their vehicles... and the guy who won took a gun to a knife fight... ironic really as the US military tend to take star destroyers to conkers fights anyway...
No those Trucks aren't those are homemade modifications, This is the thing in the US you take some truck, do something silly with it and run it through a mad made mud hole, the winner can get like 50K etc. Also wouldn't consider these guys rednecks, just people interested in cars testing out their creations.
I think sherps aren't allowed in these mostly since they aren't modified by their original design.
The guys doing these mods aren't professionals, they are just dudes in their garage wanting to have a good time, you are taking something out of context.
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The Pentagon collects data on the Russian Arctic
https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2676812.html
https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2676812.html
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China goes North Beijing's Arctic ambitions officially recognized
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Also wouldn't consider these guys rednecks,
I suspect our definitions of rednecks is different... I don't see it as derogatory... it describes people who work outside for a living like farmers etc etc.
People who shower before they go to bed, as opposed to people who shower when they get up in the morning to go to work...
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A redneck is a guy that asks: "Shower? What´s a shower?" 
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OK, so that is a different guy to what I was talking about.
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With Tu-95/142/160s, Su-34s, IL-78s, A50/100s + OPVs, subs, & ice breakers, the Arctic can be patrolled & exclusion rules enforced from any suitable/corresponding base in the RF, making it a de-facto Russian lake: https://www.russiadefence.net/t1229p850-tu-160-and-tu-95ms-blackjack-and-bears#262822
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Trump has asked aides if it's possible to buy Greenland, sources say
I was expecting it; if that happens, the US will get more Arctic & N. Atlantic coastlines & will claim more continental shelf. Access to natural resources there will diminish adventurism & interventions overseas.
China can forget about developing Greenland- the US won't allow it.
https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2692531.html
https://ria.ru/20190818/1557599210.html
https://lenta.ru/news/2019/08/19/taki_da/
https://www.foxnews.com/media/donald-trump-greenland-white-house
With it under the US flag, the NW passage claimed by Canada will be better controlled; the US will argue that Alaska & Greenland must have a secure SLOC between them. Eventually, the US may take over the Canadian Arctic Archipelago as well.
https://time.com/5653894/trump-greenland-history/
https://russian.rt.com/world/article/659857-alyaska-ssha-rossiya-arktika
http://nvo.ng.ru/nvo/2019-08-17/100_grenland.html?print=Y
I was expecting it; if that happens, the US will get more Arctic & N. Atlantic coastlines & will claim more continental shelf. Access to natural resources there will diminish adventurism & interventions overseas.
China can forget about developing Greenland- the US won't allow it.
https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2692531.html
https://ria.ru/20190818/1557599210.html
https://lenta.ru/news/2019/08/19/taki_da/
https://www.foxnews.com/media/donald-trump-greenland-white-house
With it under the US flag, the NW passage claimed by Canada will be better controlled; the US will argue that Alaska & Greenland must have a secure SLOC between them. Eventually, the US may take over the Canadian Arctic Archipelago as well.
https://time.com/5653894/trump-greenland-history/
https://russian.rt.com/world/article/659857-alyaska-ssha-rossiya-arktika
http://nvo.ng.ru/nvo/2019-08-17/100_grenland.html?print=Y
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